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The American Legal System is crap. Now to begin Im not saying that my native Canada’s is any better, all im saying is that the American one is B.S. Today, I read this article....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17212960/

A woman in the states is getting a minimum 2 year prison sentence for throwing a cup of McDonalds water into another persons car. She was rushing to take her currently in Labor sister to the hospital so that she wouldn’t give birth in the car and a person cut her off, twice. So she threw a cup of water at them. Big friggin deal right?

Apparently the cup of water is being "Legally" called a missile and apparently she attacked these innocent people with a weapon. They are calling it the McMissile case.

She is the mother of 3 children and her husband is overseas in Iraq, serving in the military.

Personally I think this only emphasizes the stupidly of the legal system. Ok, so she got pissed and threw some water, big deal. So now they are going to tear this family apart, all because some idiot got her car wet?

The legal system is crap. Once again im not saying that Canada’s is any better, im just saying that the American one is a circus.

Defend yoursleves, my southern neighbours....

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Sad stuff.... I would still rather live here than anywhere else though

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This was already posted. The woman deserves the punishment she's getting. It's not all that difficult to control your emotions. She should have decided against acting out violently. And why should the fact that she has three children and a husband in Iraq change anything? Does that mean she's less deserving of punishment? So if someone with twenty kids commits a crime, they get off with a slap on the wrist?

17 years ago

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lol, judges :roll:

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not bad at all, she will end up getting six months or something like that.

17 years ago

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#6 tequilasunriser

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This was already posted. The woman deserves the punishment she's getting. It's not all that difficult to control your emotions. She should have decided against acting out violently.Dark__Link

You are kidding me right?

17 years ago

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Sad stuff.... I would still rather live here than anywhere else thoughDipsomania

Sad, its a crime that this is hapening.

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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"]This was already posted. The woman deserves the punishment she's getting. It's not all that difficult to control your emotions. She should have decided against acting out violently.tequilasunriser

You are kidding me right?

Not at all. I don't believe the person who cut her off should have filed charges, but either way, the woman should have recognized that acting out like she did could cause trouble. She didn't, and now she'll pay for it.

17 years ago

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#9 senecaboyer88

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yeah it really is.. there was that case with the kid that had sex with a 15 year old and he was 17..and got 10 years in jail.... thats bull****, ruin the kids life, over 2 years...im willing to bet the judge has had sex with somebody 2 years younger than him...and hes perfectly fine...tons of kids are having sex now...people are delusional.. the court system is really messed up...murderers get off with the same amount of time as people that try drugs...when im also willing to bet the person doing the arresting has tried drugs before...

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This was already posted. The woman deserves the punishment she's getting. It's not all that difficult to control your emotions. She should have decided against acting out violently. And why should the fact that she has three children and a husband in Iraq change anything? Does that mean she's less deserving of punishment? So if someone with twenty kids commits a crime, they get off with a slap on the wrist?
Dark__Link

She deserves 2 years for throwing a cup of water? :lol: A fine maybe, but I really dont think she should go to jail for it.

17 years ago

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#12 Squidward117

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McMissle? XD !!!

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She deserves 2 years for throwing a cup of water? :lol: A fine maybe, but I really dont think she should go to jail for it.heartcork

I'll second that, it's just good common sense...

17 years ago

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How about the guy in georgia who got 10 years for a BJ

When he was a senior in high school, he received oral sex from a 10th grader. He was 17. She was 15. Everyone, including the girl and the prosecution, agreed she initiated the act. But because of an archaic Georgia law, it was a misdemeanor for teenagers less than three years apart to have sexual intercourse, but a felony for the same kids to have oral sex.

10 years for something she initiated.

17 years ago

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#15 zombiemenace

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What a bout the person who cut her off twice? You could say that was assault with a vehicle

17 years ago

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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"]This was already posted. The woman deserves the punishment she's getting. It's not all that difficult to control your emotions. She should have decided against acting out violently. And why should the fact that she has three children and a husband in Iraq change anything? Does that mean she's less deserving of punishment? So if someone with twenty kids commits a crime, they get off with a slap on the wrist?
AA7

You sir are a moron. You honestly believe that she deserves to be in prison for years for throwing a cup of water at someone? Let me ask you something? You ever get into a fight? Ever get pissed off?

I don't believe anything I could say warrants you calling me a moron. Anyway, whether or not I've been in a fight or get pissed off is irrelevant. What matters is accepting responsibility for your actions. If I act out violently after getting angry, I'm hardly surprised when I get in trouble, and I don't fight it. I did something I shouldn't have, and now have to get punished accordingly. Oh well. Same with the woman.

17 years ago

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[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"]This was already posted. The woman deserves the punishment she's getting. It's not all that difficult to control your emotions. She should have decided against acting out violently.Dark__Link

You are kidding me right?

Not at all. I don't believe the person who cut her off should have filed charges, but either way, the woman should have recognized that acting out like she did could cause trouble. She didn't, and now she'll pay for it.

I hope no one ever lookas at you the wrong way. You'd probably take them to court for eyeball assaulting you.

17 years ago

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RIOT? yes RIOT, it is the only answer!

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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"]This was already posted. The woman deserves the punishment she's getting. It's not all that difficult to control your emotions. She should have decided against acting out violently. And why should the fact that she has three children and a husband in Iraq change anything? Does that mean she's less deserving of punishment? So if someone with twenty kids commits a crime, they get off with a slap on the wrist?
heartcork

She deserves 2 years for throwing a cup of water? :lol: A fine maybe, but I really dont think she should go to jail for it.

She deserves to be punished if that's what the law says. She knew that in some way her actions were a crime, so that alone should have been enough incentive to cease them. If the law says she goes away for two years, then so be it. Change the law if you're upset.

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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"]This was already posted. The woman deserves the punishment she's getting. It's not all that difficult to control your emotions. She should have decided against acting out violently.tequilasunriser

You are kidding me right?

Not at all. I don't believe the person who cut her off should have filed charges, but either way, the woman should have recognized that acting out like she did could cause trouble. She didn't, and now she'll pay for it.

I hope no one ever lookas at you the wrong way. You'd probably take them to court for eyeball assaulting you.

Of course not. I'm certainly not saying I'd file charges, because I definitely wouldn't. In fact, I think the person who did take her to court was wrong in doing so. But the woman should have recognized that possibility and restrained her actions accordingly.

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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"] I don't believe anything I could say warrants you calling me a moron. Anyway, whether or not I've been in a fight or get pissed off is irrelevant. What matters is accepting responsibility for your actions. If I act out violently after getting angry, I'm hardly surprised when I get in trouble, and I don't fight it. I did something I shouldn't have, and now have to get punished accordingly. Oh well. Same with the woman.

I believe in being punished for your actions, but also it should be fair, and justice hs not been served here. This is way over the line of extreme punishment. You get less time for beating the hell out of someone than throwing a cup of water at someone....

17 years ago

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[QUOTE="AA7"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"]This was already posted. The woman deserves the punishment she's getting. It's not all that difficult to control your emotions. She should have decided against acting out violently. And why should the fact that she has three children and a husband in Iraq change anything? Does that mean she's less deserving of punishment? So if someone with twenty kids commits a crime, they get off with a slap on the wrist?
Dark__Link

You sir are a moron. You honestly believe that she deserves to be in prison for years for throwing a cup of water at someone? Let me ask you something? You ever get into a fight? Ever get pissed off?

I don't believe anything I could say warrants you calling me a moron.

Sorry I'm going to have the second the moron calling. 2 years for throwing some water at someone is ridiculous no matter how you try and spin it. The real question is, do water pistols count? All those kids commiting attempted murder with water missiles.

17 years ago

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[QUOTE="Dipsomania"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"] I don't believe anything I could say warrants you calling me a moron. Anyway, whether or not I've been in a fight or get pissed off is irrelevant. What matters is accepting responsibility for your actions. If I act out violently after getting angry, I'm hardly surprised when I get in trouble, and I don't fight it. I did something I shouldn't have, and now have to get punished accordingly. Oh well. Same with the woman.

I believe in being punished for your actions, but also it should be fair, and justice hs not been served here. This is way over the line of extreme punishment. You get less time for beating the hell out of someone than throwing a cup of water at someone....

Thank you for at least being civil. Anyway, I agree. I don't feel the sentence should be two years, either. But that's what the law says, so it should be enforced. The woman deserved whatever punishment the law set as appropriate for her. If she, you, or anyone else doesn't like it, then try to change it. For now, though, that is what she's getting.

17 years ago

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#25 senecaboyer88

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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="AA7"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"]This was already posted. The woman deserves the punishment she's getting. It's not all that difficult to control your emotions. She should have decided against acting out violently. And why should the fact that she has three children and a husband in Iraq change anything? Does that mean she's less deserving of punishment? So if someone with twenty kids commits a crime, they get off with a slap on the wrist?
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You sir are a moron. You honestly believe that she deserves to be in prison for years for throwing a cup of water at someone? Let me ask you something? You ever get into a fight? Ever get pissed off?

I don't believe anything I could say warrants you calling me a moron.

Sorry I'm going to have the second the moron calling. 2 years for throwing some water at someone is ridiculous no matter how you try and spin it. The real question is, do water pistols count? All those kids commiting attempted murder with water missiles.

agreed... if throwing water on somebodys car warrants getting years in jail for trying to get somebody in a hospital in an emergency situation, because some **** didnt have anything to do and just felt like cutting her off, then everybody would be going to jail, people do tons of more violent things then that in non serious situations, she barely did anything, and it was an emergency..... and the fact that you were even slightly bothered that he called you moron is kind of sad.... and i agree with the water pistol thing...its just ridiculous no matter how hard you try making it sound like its not ridiculous....

17 years ago

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#26 tequilasunriser

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[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"]This was already posted. The woman deserves the punishment she's getting. It's not all that difficult to control your emotions. She should have decided against acting out violently.Dark__Link

You are kidding me right?

Not at all. I don't believe the person who cut her off should have filed charges, but either way, the woman should have recognized that acting out like she did could cause trouble. She didn't, and now she'll pay for it.

I hope no one ever lookas at you the wrong way. You'd probably take them to court for eyeball assaulting you.

Of course not. I'm certainly not saying I'd file charges, because I definitely wouldn't. In fact, I think the person who did take her to court was wrong in doing so. But the woman should have recognized that possibility and restrained her actions accordingly.

I dont think anyone would realize they could get 2 years in the penn for throwing a cup of water. A car wash has done worse to that ****** car and she feels the need to prosecute? I HATE humans like her. They are are the kind of people that put humanity on a pedestal.

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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"] Thank you for at least being civil. Anyway, I agree. I don't feel the sentence should be two years, either. But that's what the law says, so it should be enforced. The woman deserved whatever punishment the law set as appropriate for her. If she, you, or anyone else doesn't like it, then try to change it. For now, though, that is what she's getting.

You're welcome, no need for me not to be civil, you have a right to your opinion as well. And I really do hope she gets it appealed and doesn't have to spend 2 years in jail for something that should be a misdemeanor, I'm sure there will be a petition and a ood lawyer will volunteer for the case to get the publicity and be able to set things right, it's just sad it even had to come this far

17 years ago

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Obviously very few are understanding what I'm trying to say. The two year sentence is ridiculous, yes. A slap on the wrist is the most appropriate action to take, but unfortunately that is not what the law states. Since she committed the crime, she is subject to the law, whether it be unfair, unjust, whatever. I am by no means saying she deserves to be locked away for two years, but I am saying she deserves the punishment she knew could happen, and in this case it was over-the-top. Even so, she should have recognized the potential for something like this to happen. If she had, she would have adjusted her behavior and wouldn't be in the mess right now.

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[QUOTE="AA7"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"]This was already posted. The woman deserves the punishment she's getting. It's not all that difficult to control your emotions. She should have decided against acting out violently. And why should the fact that she has three children and a husband in Iraq change anything? Does that mean she's less deserving of punishment? So if someone with twenty kids commits a crime, they get off with a slap on the wrist?
Dark__Link

You sir are a moron. You honestly believe that she deserves to be in prison for years for throwing a cup of water at someone? Let me ask you something? You ever get into a fight? Ever get pissed off?

I don't believe anything I could say warrants you calling me a moron. Anyway, whether or not I've been in a fight or get pissed off is irrelevant. What matters is accepting responsibility for your actions. If I act out violently after getting angry, I'm hardly surprised when I get in trouble, and I don't fight it. I did something I shouldn't have, and now have to get punished accordingly. Oh well. Same with the woman.

If you honestly believe that the legal system has the right to give this woman such a serious punishment for such a trivial act as this you cannot be thining straight. By what you are saying you trust in the Law 100%. Hve you ever considerd that there may be unfair, unjust or just plain stupid laws? And you didnt awnser my question.

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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="AA7"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"]This was already posted. The woman deserves the punishment she's getting. It's not all that difficult to control your emotions. She should have decided against acting out violently. And why should the fact that she has three children and a husband in Iraq change anything? Does that mean she's less deserving of punishment? So if someone with twenty kids commits a crime, they get off with a slap on the wrist?
AA7

You sir are a moron. You honestly believe that she deserves to be in prison for years for throwing a cup of water at someone? Let me ask you something? You ever get into a fight? Ever get pissed off?

I don't believe anything I could say warrants you calling me a moron. Anyway, whether or not I've been in a fight or get pissed off is irrelevant. What matters is accepting responsibility for your actions. If I act out violently after getting angry, I'm hardly surprised when I get in trouble, and I don't fight it. I did something I shouldn't have, and now have to get punished accordingly. Oh well. Same with the woman.

If you honestly believe that the legal system has the right to give this woman such a serious punishment for such a trivial act as this you cannot be thining straight. By what you are saying you trust in the Law 100%. Hve you ever considerd that there may be unfair, unjust or just plain stupid laws? And you didnt awnser my question.

No, I don't trust in the law one hundred percent. It's obviously screwed up here, but it is what it is. Change it if you have a problem. Answer your question? Alright, but it's not even pertinent. No, I haven't been in a fight. Yes, I have been pissed off.

17 years ago

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She broke the law. The law states that she be punished. She should be punished. Now...the punishment is excessive. I agree, wholeheartedly. That is what she be debated...not the fact that she got punished. I think that is as basic as I can reason. Why is everyone having such a hard time?

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[QUOTE="FragStains"]She broke the law. The law states that she be punished. She should be punished. Now...the punishment is excessive. I agree, wholeheartedly. That is what she be debated...not the fact that she got punished. I think that is as basic as I can reason. Why is everyone having such a hard time?

Maybe someday I will be as smart as you :oops:

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[QUOTE="FragStains"]She broke the law. The law states that she be punished. She should be punished. Now...the punishment is excessive. I agree, wholeheartedly. That is what she be debated...not the fact that she got punished. I think that is as basic as I can reason. Why is everyone having such a hard time?

O merciful God, thank you. I can always count on you, Frag. :oops:

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I dont have to defend myself... we have the military for that....

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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="FragStains"]She broke the law. The law states that she be punished. She should be punished. Now...the punishment is excessive. I agree, wholeheartedly. That is what she be debated...not the fact that she got punished. I think that is as basic as I can reason. Why is everyone having such a hard time?

O merciful God, thank you. I can always count on you, Frag. :oops:

I saw the Bat-signal...so I knew someone was in trouble.

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[QUOTE="Dipsomania"][QUOTE="FragStains"]She broke the law. The law states that she be punished. She should be punished. Now...the punishment is excessive. I agree, wholeheartedly. That is what she be debated...not the fact that she got punished. I think that is as basic as I can reason. Why is everyone having such a hard time?

Maybe someday I will be as smart as you :oops:

You'll get there if you drink your milk and stay in school.

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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="FragStains"]She broke the law. The law states that she be punished. She should be punished. Now...the punishment is excessive. I agree, wholeheartedly. That is what she be debated...not the fact that she got punished. I think that is as basic as I can reason. Why is everyone having such a hard time?

O merciful God, thank you. I can always count on you, Frag. :oops:

You said she deserved what her punishment was, then kept changing your words around. :?

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[QUOTE="AA7"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="AA7"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"]This was already posted. The woman deserves the punishment she's getting. It's not all that difficult to control your emotions. She should have decided against acting out violently. And why should the fact that she has three children and a husband in Iraq change anything? Does that mean she's less deserving of punishment? So if someone with twenty kids commits a crime, they get off with a slap on the wrist?
Dark__Link

You sir are a moron. You honestly believe that she deserves to be in prison for years for throwing a cup of water at someone? Let me ask you something? You ever get into a fight? Ever get pissed off?

I don't believe anything I could say warrants you calling me a moron. Anyway, whether or not I've been in a fight or get pissed off is irrelevant. What matters is accepting responsibility for your actions. If I act out violently after getting angry, I'm hardly surprised when I get in trouble, and I don't fight it. I did something I shouldn't have, and now have to get punished accordingly. Oh well. Same with the woman.

If you honestly believe that the legal system has the right to give this woman such a serious punishment for such a trivial act as this you cannot be thining straight. By what you are saying you trust in the Law 100%. Hve you ever considerd that there may be unfair, unjust or just plain stupid laws? And you didnt awnser my question.

No, I don't trust in the law one hundred percent. It's obviously screwed up here, but it is what it is. Change it if you have a problem. Answer your question? Alright, but it's not even pertinent. No, I haven't been in a fight. Yes, I have been pissed off.

So, im sure you have done something stupid because of you pissed-off-ed-ness. So, since you believe in the law so deeply are you going to turn yourself in? Are you going to confess your crimes? No. Anyway, I just cannot see how you see this womans punishment as just. She may be getting what she deserves by law but in the real world, the world that is fair and makes sence(if that place even exists anymore)this is nonsence.

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You'll get there if you drink your milk and stay in school.FragStains

I love milk but I am already done with school, I don't want to go back :cry:

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[QUOTE="heartcork"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="FragStains"]She broke the law. The law states that she be punished. She should be punished. Now...the punishment is excessive. I agree, wholeheartedly. That is what she be debated...not the fact that she got punished. I think that is as basic as I can reason. Why is everyone having such a hard time?

O merciful God, thank you. I can always count on you, Frag. :oops:

You said she deserved what her punishment was, then kept changing your words around. :?

I'm new at this debating thing. I sometimes have trouble getting my point across. :P Do you forgive me?

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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"] Do you forgive me?

For a cookie? Yes 8)

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I bet if she had hit that guy in the face causing him to crash and kill several people she would have gotten a lot more than 2 years.

But she got off and it's over.

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#43 tequilasunriser

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[QUOTE="FragStains"]She broke the law. The law states that she be punished. She should be punished. Now...the punishment is excessive. I agree, wholeheartedly. That is what she be debated...not the fact that she got punished. I think that is as basic as I can reason. Why is everyone having such a hard time?

I think everyone is just upset that a thrown cup of water is considdered a missle and will land a woman in prison for 2 years. The punishment is far too excessive. A few hours of community service I can see, but 2 years in the penn? Thats just insane.

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[QUOTE="FragStains"]You'll get there if you drink your milk and stay in school.Dipsomania

I love milk but I am already done with school, I don't want to go back :cry:

You're half way there already...

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[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="FragStains"]She broke the law. The law states that she be punished. She should be punished. Now...the punishment is excessive. I agree, wholeheartedly. That is what she be debated...not the fact that she got punished. I think that is as basic as I can reason. Why is everyone having such a hard time?

I think everyone is just upset that a thrown cup of water is considdered a missle and will land a woman in prison for 2 years. The punishment is far too excessive. A few hours of cummunity service I can see, but 2 years in the penn? Thats just insane.

Yes, it is insane. Should be nothing more than a fine.

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[QUOTE="Dipsomania"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"] Do you forgive me?

For a cookie? Yes 8)

I don't have any. :(

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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"]I'm new at this debating thing. I sometimes have trouble getting my point across. :P Do you forgive me?

Course, but only cause you admitted it. ;p

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[QUOTE="heartcork"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"]I'm new at this debating thing. I sometimes have trouble getting my point across. :P Do you forgive me?

Course, but only cause you admitted it. ;p

I love happy endings. *happy sigh*

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[QUOTE="heartcork"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"]I'm new at this debating thing. I sometimes have trouble getting my point across. :P Do you forgive me?

Course, but only cause you admitted it. ;p

Good. :-*

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[QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="FragStains"]She broke the law. The law states that she be punished. She should be punished. Now...the punishment is excessive. I agree, wholeheartedly. That is what she be debated...not the fact that she got punished. I think that is as basic as I can reason. Why is everyone having such a hard time?

I think everyone is just upset that a thrown cup of water is considdered a missle and will land a woman in prison for 2 years. The punishment is far too excessive. A few hours of cummunity service I can see, but 2 years in the penn? Thats just insane.

Yes, it is insane. Should be nothing more than a fine.

Exactly. :(

17 years ago

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