The Origin Of Evil?

Yes folks thats right ... what would be the origin of evil on this earth ?

Human kind?

Thought?

Lizards?

Belief?

Absence of Love?

Whatcha think it be ???

Can you prove evil even exists? And don't say "its the opposite of good" because then you have to prove good exists. Every action is merely a change in the continuum of the universe. The universe itself doesn't discern the negative and positive. It just flows from one moment to the next, a slave to time.

MEEEEEE.

Evil is just a matter of perspective as is the actions of good, there is no origin of evil each person is setup differently and given the circumstances they can perform actions which are percieved as either good or evil by others.

The human race is the orgin of evil as we are the only living things on this earth that can choose what is good or evil.

Just a human definition for behaviour that is harmful and immoral.

Can you prove evil even exists? And don't say "its the opposite of good" because then you have to prove good exists. Every action is merely a change in the continuum of the universe. The universe itself doesn't discern the negative and positive. It just flows from one moment to the next, a slave to time.

foxhound_fox

No I guess I can't ... its a concept-idea-thought

Welli guess a better question would bethe origin of the things we define as evil like (Wars-Torture-Pedofilia-Rape-Murder..etc)

Where has all of these horrific deeds originate from ?

No other animal commits them ? it cannot be survival?

Just a human definition for behaviour that is harmful and immoral.

FlyingArmbar

Immoral & harmful are definitions for behaviour you call evil .... :P

it has no origins it just exists.

The human race is the orgin of evil

xxmatt125xx

Ok we've reached a truth !

Now why is the human race corrupt ?

What seperates us from the other animals?

[QUOTE="xxmatt125xx"]

The human race is the orgin of evil

soren008

Ok we've reached a truth !

Now why is the human race corrupt ?

What seperates us from the other animals?

[QUOTE="xxmatt125xx"]

The human race is the orgin of evil

soren008

Ok we've reached a truth !

Now why is the human race corrupt ?

What seperates us from the other animals?

Can you prove evil even exists? And don't say "its the opposite of good" because then you have to prove good exists. Every action is merely a change in the continuum of the universe. The universe itself doesn't discern the negative and positive. It just flows from one moment to the next, a slave to time.

foxhound_fox

Best answer I've seen. (Reminds me of my freshman seminar class)

Pretty much that we create evil, not that humans are evil, but we decide what we think to be evil. (someone above me said it much better though)

Man.

Yes folks thats right ... what would be the origin of evil on this earth ?

Human kind?

Thought?

Lizards?

Belief?

Absence of Love?

Whatcha think it be ???

soren008

The DEVIL. HAHAHa.

No I guess I can't ... its a concept-idea-thought

Welli guess a better question would bethe origin of the things we define as evil like (Wars-Torture-Pedofilia-Rape-Murder..etc)

Where has all of these horrific deeds originate from ?

No other animal commits them ? it cannot be survival?

soren008

Every animal on Earth has basically one ultimate goal: the pursuit of its desires. Since humans have an increased mental capacity over other animals, our desires are more complicated (in some cases... in other cases hardly more complicated than other animals). With more complicated desires comes as well the capacity for increasingly destructive desires. And we also have a better ability through our technological advancements to pursue our desires on a much grander scale. So, everything you've listed is really just the combination of those three facts: we pursue our desires; our desires are more complicated and thus more prone to messed up tendencies; and we are more capable of carrying out broader desires than other animals.

[QUOTE="soren008"]

No I guess I can't ... its a concept-idea-thought

Welli guess a better question would bethe origin of the things we define as evil like (Wars-Torture-Pedofilia-Rape-Murder..etc)

Where has all of these horrific deeds originate from ?

No other animal commits them ? it cannot be survival?

Every animal on Earth has basically one ultimate goal: the pursuit of its desires. Since humans have an increased mental capacity over other animals, our desires are more complicated (in some cases... in other cases hardly more complicated than other animals). With more complicated desires comes as well the capacity for increasingly destructive desires. And we also have a better ability through our technological advancements to pursue our desires on a much grander scale. So, everything you've listed is really just the combination of those three facts: we pursue our desires; our desires are more complicated and thus more prone to messed up tendencies; and we are more capable of carrying out broader desires than other animals.

There is no definite evil or good, so the origin is your mind.

Are you sure it wasn't "I Wanna Be The Guy"? :P-Tish-

That's not the origin of evil; that's just its epitome. :P

I don't think evil has any sort of objective or absolute standard behind it, so I'd say it originates from people and social constructs, since I think it's based on interpretation.-Chimera-

Agreed. Whats evil to some is an everyday normalcy to others.

[QUOTE="FlyingArmbar"]

Just a human definition for behaviour that is harmful and immoral.

soren008

Immoral & harmful are definitions for behaviour you call evil .... :P

K

You cannot recognise a broken line until you have an idea of a straight one. The origin of evil is the recognition of what's good.

It's an ethical concept. Animals eat each others babies. Are animals evil?-eddy-

[QUOTE="xxmatt125xx"]

The human race is the orgin of evil

soren008

Ok we've reached a truth !

Now why is the human race corrupt ?

What seperates us from the other animals?

Death to the Human devils! No seriously.

The black patch that shows when light shines.

The origin of evil is the recognition of what's good.

Theokhoth

Then what is the origin of good?

No offense, but that's pretty much as close as you can get to a total non-answer. :P

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

The origin of evil is the recognition of what's good.

GabuEx

Then what is the origin of good?

No offense, but that's pretty much as close as you can get to a total non-answer. :P

Can you commit evil if you don't know what it is?

Can you commit evil if you don't know what it is?

Theokhoth

Well, that depends on whether evil is an action or an intent. If evil is an action, then yes; if it is an intent, then no.

But either way, saying that the origin of evil is the recognition of what is good does not really answer this question; it only passes the buck and now requires "good" to be discussed.

The professor of a university challenged his students with this question. "Did God create everything that exists?" A student answered bravely, "Yes, he did".

The professor then asked, "If God created everything, then he created evil. Since evil exists (as noticed by our own actions), so God is evil. The student couldn't respond to that statement causing the professor to conclude that he had "proved" that "belief in God" was a fairy tale, and therefore worthless.

Another student raised his hand and asked the professor, "May I pose a question? " "Of course" answered the professor. The young student stood up and asked : "Professor does Cold exists?" The professor answered, "What kind of question is that?...Of course the cold exists... haven't you ever been cold?" The young student answered, "In fact sir, Cold does not exist. According to the laws of Physics, what we consider cold, in fact is the absence of heat. Anything is able to be studied as long as it transmits energy (heat). Absolute Zero is the total absence of heat, but cold does not exist. What we have done is create a term to describe how we feel if we don't have body heat or we are not hot." "And, does Dark exist?", he continued. The professor answered "Of course". This time the student responded, "Again you're wrong, Sir. Darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in fact simply the absence of light. Light can be studied, darkness can not. Darkness cannot be broken down. A simple ray of light tears the darkness and illuminates the surface where the! light beam finishes. Dark is a term that we humans have created to describe what happens when there's lack of light." Finally, the student asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?" The professor replied, "Of course it exists, as I mentioned at the beginning, we see violations, crimes and violence anywhere in the world, and those things are evil."

The student responded, "Sir, Evil does not exist. Just as in the previous cases, Evil is a term which man has created to describe the result of the absence of God's presence in the hearts of man.

After this, the professor bowed down his head, and didn't answer back.

The young man's name was ALBERT EINSTEIN.

The professor of a university challenged his students with this question. "Did God create everything that exists?" A student answered bravely, "Yes, he did".

The professor then asked, "If God created everything, then he created evil. Since evil exists (as noticed by our own actions), so God is evil. The student couldn't respond to that statement causing the professor to conclude that he had "proved" that "belief in God" was a fairy tale, and therefore worthless.

Another student raised his hand and asked the professor, "May I pose a question? " "Of course" answered the professor. The young student stood up and asked : "Professor does Cold exists?" The professor answered, "What kind of question is that?...Of course the cold exists... haven't you ever been cold?" The young student answered, "In fact sir, Cold does not exist. According to the laws of Physics, what we consider cold, in fact is the absence of heat. Anything is able to be studied as long as it transmits energy (heat). Absolute Zero is the total absence of heat, but cold does not exist. What we have done is create a term to describe how we feel if we don't have body heat or we are not hot." "And, does Dark exist?", he continued. The professor answered "Of course". This time the student responded, "Again you're wrong, Sir. Darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in fact simply the absence of light. Light can be studied, darkness can not. Darkness cannot be broken down. A simple ray of light tears the darkness and illuminates the surface where the! light beam finishes. Dark is a term that we humans have created to describe what happens when there's lack of light." Finally, the student asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?" The professor replied, "Of course it exists, as I mentioned at the beginning, we see violations, crimes and violence anywhere in the world, and those things are evil."

The student responded, "Sir, Evil does not exist. Just as in the previous cases, Evil is a term which man has created to describe the result of the absence of God's presence in the hearts of man.

After this, the professor bowed down his head, and didn't answer back.

The young man's name was ALBERT EINSTEIN.

teddyrob

Urban legend, but one of my favorites.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Can you commit evil if you don't know what it is?

GabuEx

Well, that depends on whether evil is an action or an intent. If evil is an action, then yes; if it is an intent, then no.

But either way, saying that the origin of evil is the recognition of what is good does not really answer this question; it only passes the buck and now requires "good" to be discussed.

I don't think evil is an action or an intent, but that's another topic.:P

The young man's name was ALBERT EINSTEIN.

teddyrob

No, it wasn't. :P

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The young man's name was ALBERT EINSTEIN.

GabuEx

No, it wasn't. :P

Who cares. It's a pretty good explanation and no one has come up with anything better.

Who cares. It's a pretty good explanation and no one has come up with anything better.

teddyrob

Far from being a pretty good explanation, as I have already stated, it is basically a total non-explanation. It just passes the buck and necessitates the definition of "good" rather than "evil"; it does not answer the question.

[QUOTE="-eddy-"]It's an ethical concept. Animals eat each others babies. Are animals evil?Theokhoth

Far from being a pretty good explanation, as I have already stated, it is basically a total non-explanation. It just passes the buck and necessitates the definition of "good" rather than "evil"; it does not answer the question.

GabuEx

It answers it perfectly in a scientific way and is clear in it's explanation, either you have failed to understand it or you don't agree with it.

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[QUOTE="-eddy-"]It's an ethical concept. Animals eat each others babies. Are animals evil?BumFluff122

No, because we have recognition of what's good and evil. I honestly don't care what you have to say about humans being animals; until we run around naked, throwing our **** at eachother, we are better than every other species of animals on the planet for our moral recognition alone.

I would put forward the idea that there is no such thing as evil, just as there is no such thing as good. What is fine and good to one person might be evil to another and so on. If you were to travel back in time and kill Hitler as an infant in his crib a lot of people would say that you did a "good" thing. But at the same time I'd imagine that most people on this forum would tell you that killing babies is "evil". Using the same example, who is to say that by killing baby Hitler you prevent WW II but in turn Russia later starts a war with England or the US that kills off millions more people then those that died over the course of WWII. Did you still do the "good" thing? But i'm already getting off track . . .

My point is that the concept of evil is something we use to define our personal sense of good. If there was no evil we would have nothing to compare good too. We cannot have heroes without villains, we cannot have justice without injustice. When you put on your rock music you are listening to what a conservative Muslim living in the middle east might call evil music that is poisoning your mind. Just the same when a man throws acid on the faces of girls going to school in Afghanistan him and his friends think he's doing a "good" thing in sending a message. When a religious zealot somewhere in the US uses his rite of "freedom of speech" to teach his kids to chant "God Hates F**s" while he carries around a sign saying the same thing is he evil? Or is being a homosexual evil? You might pick a side but that doesn't necessarily make you right, it means you have an opinion.

In saying that I'm saying that there is no origin of evil because in my opinion there is no such thing as evil. I'm sure all you religious members would argue with me, and maybe someone else might ask my opinion on if they were to kill my mother or wife but it's still just a matter of perspective.

No, because we have recognition of what's good and evil. I honestly don't care what you have to say about humans being animals; until we run around naked, throwing our **** at eachother, we are better than every other species of animals on the planet for our moral recognition alone.

Theokhoth