The Origin of Life

The answer is, simply, that I don't know.

I don't get why it's so hard for some people to say that. Now I don't believe in any "god" created by religion, that's not the question. The question is if there was an original creator to begin with or if the universe just existed. Personally, I think neither. I don't believe something can come out of nothing and I think that this question is too incredibly complex for us to understand at the moment.

So what do you believe and why? The Big Bang Theory because science supports it? God because a book tells you so? A giant indestructible waffle because it would be all-powerful and delicious? Or this?

The answer is, simply, that I don't know.

I don't get why it's so hard for some people to say that. Now I don't believe in any "god" created by religion, that's not the question. The question is if there was an original creator to begin with or if the universe just existed. Personally, I think neither. I don't believe something can come out of nothing and I think that this question is too incredibly complex for us to understand at the moment.

So what do you believe and why? The Big Bang Theory because science supports it? God because a book tells you so? A giant indestructible waffle because it would be all-powerful and delicious? Or this?

The answer is, simply, that I don't know.

I don't get why it's so hard for some people to say that. Now I don't believe in any "god" created by religion, that's not the question. The question is if there was an original creator to begin with or if the universe just existed. Personally, I think neither. I don't believe something can come out of nothing and I think that this question is too incredibly complex for us to understand at the moment.

So what do you believe and why? The Big Bang Theory because science supports it? God because a book tells you so? A giant indestructible waffle because it would be all-powerful and delicious? Or this?

The answer is, simply, that I don't know.

Astrapsody

Out of curiosity, have you examined the evidence that scientists provide for the Big Bang theory? They didn't exactly just make it up out of nothing.

Also, the Big Bang theory does not say that something came from nothing. No scientist has ever claimed to know what was before the Big Bang, or if there was anything before the Big Bang.

The origin of life is I dunno lol.

It's unknown to humans right now and jumping to any scientific theory or religion and saying it's true is just ignorant.

Out of curiosity, have you examined the evidence that scientists provide for the Big Bang theory? They didn't exactly just make it up out of nothing.

Also, the Big Bang theory does not say that something came from nothing. No scientist has ever claimed to know what was before the Big Bang, or if there was anything before the Big Bang.

GabuEx

Out of curiosity, have you examined the evidence that scientists provide for the Big Bang theory? They didn't exactly just make it up out of nothing.

Also, the Big Bang theory does not say that something came from nothing. No scientist has ever claimed to know what was before the Big Bang, or if there was anything before the Big Bang.

GabuEx

Yes I have examined the evidence. I'm not going to argue with this too much since it's actually the theory I find most believable and I know there is huge amounts of evidence that support it. The fact is that matter had to start somewhere. It either always existed or something created it.

Yes I have examined the evidence. I'm not going to argue with this too much since it's actually the theory I find most believable and I know there is huge amounts of evidence that support it. The fact is that matter had to start somewhere. It either always existed or something created it.

Astrapsody

Well, then you aren't arguing against the Big Bang theory. :P No scientist has ever claimed to know how the matter in the universe ultimately came into existence.

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Yes I have examined the evidence. I'm not going to argue with this too much since it's actually the theory I find most believable and I know there is huge amounts of evidence that support it. The fact is that matter had to start somewhere. It either always existed or something created it.

GabuEx

Well, then you aren't arguing against the Big Bang theory. :P No scientist has ever claimed to know how the matter in the universe ultimately came into existence.

Yeah, and that's my point. Of course scientists don't claim to know that, science requires testable proof. My problem is with people that claim to "know" how it all came into place. And another thing: Just because it's a game forum doesn't mean intelligent discussion can't take place.

the life was created by god, no big band theories, but I could say that god maybe created the big band theorypapermariofan57

Here's my problem. People say it was "god". Why? There is no proof. And it's the Big Bang Theory. Saying I believe this happened because blah blah blah is okay with me. Saying "this happened" is not.

The answer is, simply, that I don't know.

I don't get why it's so hard for some people to say that. Now I don't believe in any "god" created by religion, that's not the question. The question is if there was an original creator to begin with or if the universe just existed. Personally, I think neither. I don't believe something can come out of nothing and I think that this question is too incredibly complex for us to understand at the moment.

So what do you believe and why? The Big Bang Theory because science supports it? God because a book tells you so? A giant indestructible waffle because it would be all-powerful and delicious? Or this?

[QUOTE="papermariofan57"]the life was created by god, no big band theories, but I could say that god maybe created the big band theoryAstrapsody

Here's my problem. People say it was "god". Why? There is no proof. And it's the Big Bang Theory. Saying I believe this happened because blah blah blah is okay with me. Saying "this happened" is not.

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[QUOTE="papermariofan57"]the life was created by god, no big band theories, but I could say that god maybe created the big band theorypapermariofan57

Here's my problem. People say it was "god". Why? There is no proof. And it's the Big Bang Theory. Saying I believe this happened because blah blah blah is okay with me. Saying "this happened" is not.

I don't know.

[QUOTE="SSBFan12"][QUOTE="Astrapsody"]

The answer is, simply, that I don't know.

I don't get why it's so hard for some people to say that. Now I don't believe in any "god" created by religion, that's not the question. The question is if there was an original creator to begin with or if the universe just existed. Personally, I think neither. I don't believe something can come out of nothing and I think that this question is too incredibly complex for us to understand at the moment.

So what do you believe and why? The Big Bang Theory because science supports it? God because a book tells you so? A giant indestructible waffle because it would be all-powerful and delicious? Or this?

the_foreign_guy

[QUOTE="the_foreign_guy"][QUOTE="SSBFan12"] I believe in the big bang theory.KYLEseXY

Good answer.

you cant really work the big bang without something before that, or something creating it.supa_badman

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[QUOTE="papermariofan57"]the life was created by god, no big band theories, but I could say that god maybe created the big band theorypapermariofan57

Here's my problem. People say it was "god". Why? There is no proof. And it's the Big Bang Theory. Saying I believe this happened because blah blah blah is okay with me. Saying "this happened" is not.

Me too. :|Teenaged

[QUOTE="the_foreign_guy"][QUOTE="SSBFan12"] I believe in the big bang theory.Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="the_foreign_guy"] I believe that children are our future.JabbaDaHutt30

[QUOTE="papermariofan57"][QUOTE="Astrapsody"]

Here's my problem. People say it was "god". Why? There is no proof. And it's the Big Bang Theory. Saying I believe this happened because blah blah blah is okay with me. Saying "this happened" is not.

MattUD1

Now this is what I beilieve to be true because of the substantial amount of evidence that supports it. (to papermariofan57) Like I said before, we don't know, so stop making claims without evidence.

I'm a Christian who believes God created everything. What I'm less certain of is how God created though I do have leanings towards Young-Earth Creationism. mindstorm

What evidence do you have to support that belief?

[QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Me too. :|xaos

Of course education is a tool, and as every tool it has both sides, that's why there is the danger of certain people trying to educate children in their own way (see Creationism theory.. >_>)

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]I'm a Christian who believes God created everything. What I'm less certain of is how God created though I do have leanings towards Young-Earth Creationism. Astrapsody

What evidence do you have to support that belief?

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[QUOTE="mindstorm"]I'm a Christian who believes God created everything. What I'm less certain of is how God created though I do have leanings towards Young-Earth Creationism. MattUD1

What evidence do you have to support that belief?

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[QUOTE="mindstorm"]I'm a Christian who believes God created everything. What I'm less certain of is how God created though I do have leanings towards Young-Earth Creationism. MattUD1

What evidence do you have to support that belief?

What other proof is there besides physical proof? If there's no proof. then I don't have a reason to believe it.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Me too. :|Teenaged

Of course education is a tool, and as every tool it has both sides, that's why there is the danger of certain people trying to educate children in their own way (see Creationism theory.. >_>)

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You are correct! *gives cookie*

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="Astrapsody"]

What evidence do you have to support that belief?

Astrapsody

What other proof is there besides physical proof? If there's no proof. then I don't have a reason to believe it.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Nooooooo! :o As a future teacher I believe that the only way we can effectively change the world is by providing our children with the best education as possible. Education shapes a significant part of what they become and consequently what the world will be like in their generation.

Of course education is a tool, and as every tool it has both sides, that's why there is the danger of certain people trying to educate children in their own way (see Creationism theory.. >_>)

Astrapsody

You are correct! *gives cookie*

EDIT: And thanks for the cookie :P

[QUOTE="Astrapsody"][QUOTE="MattUD1"]You can't have physical proof of a supernaturally caused event. It's not like you are going to find a stamp mark at the edge of the universe that says "Made by The Christian God". That'd be like me saying that a ghost pushed a cup that was located behind me. I can't prove it's a ghost, all I can prove is that a cup that was behind me fell.MattUD1

What other proof is there besides physical proof? If there's no proof. then I don't have a reason to believe it.

You can see how a mathematical proof works with your eyes and can put it into practice.

[QUOTE="Astrapsody"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Nooooooo! :o As a future teacher I believe that the only way we can effectively change the world is by providing our children with the best education as possible. Education shapes a significant part of what they become and consequently what the world will be like in their generation.

Of course education is a tool, and as every tool it has both sides, that's why there is the danger of certain people trying to educate children in their own way (see Creationism theory.. >_>)

Teenaged

You are correct! *gives cookie*

EDIT: And thanks for the cookie :P

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Both! I think education is one of the most important things you can give to a kid. I also believe that kids should be taught to think for themselves and to challenge what they are taught. I hope your teaching career goes well.

Both! I think education is one of the most important things you can give to a kid. I also believe that kids should be taught to think for themselves and to challenge what they are taught. I hope your teaching career goes well.

Astrapsody

I'm a Christian who believes God created everything. What I'm less certain of is how God created though I do have leanings towards Young-Earth Creationism. mindstorm

Just a question.

If god does exist why would he focus on humans?

Seems almost as if the existance of god is just something made by humans that just became tradition.

[QUOTE="supa_badman"]you cant really work the big bang without something before that, or something creating it.xaos

[QUOTE="supa_badman"] if time was a creation then something created time. as some theists put it, god made time, and god lives outside time.the_foreign_guy

[QUOTE="the_foreign_guy"][QUOTE="supa_badman"] if time was a creation then something created time. as some theists put it, god made time, and god lives outside time.Teenaged

I created a topic but people were more interested in correcting my terminology that answering the ******* question so I'll go here:

I think any kind of creaionism other than intelligent design is crazy. How could all organisms just poof onto earth? and what about the geological proof that Genesis is wrong in terms of time (NO WAY that earth is only thousands of years old).

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="the_foreign_guy"] You're the 42nd post of this thread. This is of utmost significance. the_foreign_guy

[QUOTE="the_foreign_guy"][QUOTE="supa_badman"] if time was a creation then something created time. as some theists put it, god made time, and god lives outside time.supa_badman

42 is the answer to the meaning of life.

We just need to figure out the question though.

You don't get answers from a game forum concerning serious issues on the conflict between religion and science. For those interested in such, check out the debates of William Lane Craig. He's provided substantial information and reasons why God exists. He's on Youtube, btw.gloomy_druid