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#1 chandlerr_360
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After doing research for days, watching YouTube videos, professional presentations at my School, and watching several News broadcasts from the past, I have come to the sad realization that the Human Race isinfor some trouble. No, I am not a freak,guy with no life, maniac, or Emo kid with cut wrists, I am just someone who wants to make a point. The reason why? Oil. It is simple, but at the same time a hole that we have dug ourselves in so deep that we cannot get out of. Every factor of our modern day society in the civilized world is bound by Oil. If you do not know what Peak Oil is, research it, it is nearly upon us (or might very well already be).

Is the U.S. in Iraq because of Oil? Mainly, why yes our military is. Why? Because President Bush and the cabinet (hate to use this example but it is easily the most prominent)are smart enough to realize that the U.S. more than any other country is in serious trouble. 2% of all of the Oil produced in the world is made in the U.S., while our country alone uses 25% of the global Oil supply. Unfortunately, even with all of the pathetic commercials on MTV and awareness assemblies, it does not make any difference. We are not going to go back in time with our technology to save Oil, it just will not happen. The U.K. and most European countries, along with Canada and Japan are the runners up for using the most Oil.

Within 7-8 years I am estimating (as well with many others) that some type of MAJOR oil crisis will erupt in the world to the point that we will have to initiate some type of massive conventional warfare, hopefully with Nuclear weapons aside. Nearly HALF of the U.S.'s Oil supply is controlled by the Middle East...which just so happens to be VERY hateful towards us. And we want to pull out of Iraq? Why, so we can have our strings pulled and have to go back there to start another war for Oil? The bottom line is, whether any peace loving hippies or social activists like it or not, if you want your families and loved ones to be warm in the Winter, you want to drive down and see your grandparents during Christmas, and if you want to continue to eat three times a day, andwant to buy Plasma TV's rather than weekly gas,then we need to control as much oil as we can...unfortunately through warfare and violence, seeing as there will never be an agreement.

That is just the way it is...unless we find a way to Mars or some vast unknown Oil supply under the Ocean, we are going to be faced with this unfortunate problem of a Cutthroat free for all Oil crisis. There simply is NO OTHERsource of energy that could replace Oil onthe full scale of thing.I don't know about any of you, but I would gladly spill blood for Oil for my loved ones if no reasonable agreement could be made.

If anyone reads this rather long rant/post, whatever you call it, I hope that you take something from it and . I reccomend searching "Peak Oil" on YouTube and watch a few real presentations. You might find yourself getting a chill down your spine.

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#2 cornlockes
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I read it but I have nothing to contribute. I don't really agree, but whatever
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#3 chandlerr_360
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By the way, sorry for any mistakes in the writing, the GS boards really do a number on any lengthy post that I create.
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#4 Gomez619
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oil...............
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#5 nevereathim
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You just realized that? And believe me it's not us that caused this problem it's the oil problems, had we actually used the electric car then we could've actually saved a lot of oil but the oil companies decided to kill it because they are so greedy
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#6 flipin_jackass
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WEll, the history of the world.. states and countries have expanded and conquered in order to gain more resources. I don't disagree with the move of getting more oil, but the fact that they make up a bunch of BS (like the WoMD) to why they're in the Middle East just - kinda -ticks me off.
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#7 DFan17902
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It doesn't matter. December 21st 2012 will arrive before we run out of oil.
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#8 chandlerr_360
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It doesn't matter. December 21st 2012 will arrive before we run out of oil.DFan17902

Yeah, However that is not a guarantee...

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#9 Poisoned_Waffle
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Which is why we should enjoy the years before the massive genocides occur. So go play Disgaea or some other game that restores faith in humanity.
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WEll, the history of the world.. states and countries have expanded and conquered in order to gain more resources. I don't disagree with the move of getting more oil, but the fact that they make up a bunch of BS (like the WoMD) to why they're in the Middle East just - kinda -ticks me off.flipin_jackass

I agree, I wish they would reveal the truth to the rest of the American public so that we can stop argueing about petty politicalcrap and worry about the future. If any of the short-term thinking Democrats get elected we are in even more trouble. If I had a choice I would cite Bush back in so we stick with it in the Middle East.

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#11 giton
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It doesn't matter. December 21st 2012 will arrive before we run out of oil.DFan17902

what happens on 21 dec 2012?

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#12 deadface001
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http://www.wired.com/cars/energy/magazine/15-09/mf_jackrig

dont know if that helps or just makes me an ass but there ya go

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#13 0starter0
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That's why Hydrogen is our future, along with electricity.
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#14 chandlerr_360
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[QUOTE="DFan17902"]It doesn't matter. December 21st 2012 will arrive before we run out of oil.giton

what happens on 21 dec 2012?

The Mayan's predicted that the world would end. Considering that the Mayans's did a lot of extraordinary things and had the most advanced system of arithmatic in the known world, it is definitely something to think about.

http://www.wired.com/cars/energy/magazine/15-09/mf_jackrig

dont know if that helps or just makes me an ass but there ya go

deadface001

That is like a drop in the bucket.

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That's why Hydrogen is our future, along with electricity.0starter0

Electricity is produced from Oil and Coal, it can only help delay the problem no fix it. And Hydrogen is a failed dream, much to unstable and hard to contain efficiently.

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#16 mllrmatt8
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We're talking about the subject in my science class tommorrow. Scientists are trying to find a way to use take the Hydrogen from water to use for infinite fuel. My teacher seems pretty certain that this will happen soon, hopefully before the oil runs out... Then we'll have almost free fuel.

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#17 MrGeezer
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Electricity is produced from LOTS of things, including "free" energy sources such as wind, water, and sunlight.
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im telling you guys, wind powered stuff is the way to go, the fans turn and store static electricity to power things, this could work with cars or anything
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#19 giton
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[QUOTE="giton"]

[QUOTE="DFan17902"]It doesn't matter. December 21st 2012 will arrive before we run out of oil.chandlerr_360

what happens on 21 dec 2012?

The Mayan's predicted that the world would end. Considering that the Mayans's did a lot of extraordinary things and had the most advanced system of arithmatic in the known world, it is definitely something to think about.

well then... time to party!

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#20 peeviness
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Are we witnessing the fall of America? Only time will tell.
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#21 chandlerr_360
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Wind is much too sparratic to be effective. In the few places that Wind is constant it is still too little. Once again, no cigar.
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#22 chandlerr_360
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The only three solution that I could see would be Depopulation, Aggresive Expansion, and Colonization...yet, these would still allbe temporary. I have other ideas but they are pretty far-fetched.
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#23 middito
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it's to early to rule out such a judgement, there are literally hundreds of unused/untapped reasources to create portable, stable energy. the problem is that our world governments do not have the level of comprehension, vision, or detirmination to solve the global problem. whether the people of earth continue to settle on that fact or our governments do nothing, such a catastrophic event will happen with the growing strain of imbalance, on biblical proportions or not.
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#24 RMage
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We have been in trouble since our conception as humans. But we always end up ok, its human nature to survive, and thats what we have done. This is just another speedbump.
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#25 darkfox101
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ever consider the good things are not reported.. seriously who wants to watch that on CNN news? they want dramatic and interesting stuff if that ever hit you
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#26 GodLovesDead
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By the time we're out of oil we'll have other things.
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#27 middito
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it's not that whether or not we're out of oil, it's the events that would lead up to the end of oil. If scientist's proved(somehow) that we were going to run out of oil 6months from now, theres no doubt in my mind somewhere out there in the world would be a battle over domination over the few drops of oil.
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#28 JiveT
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America doesn't get half its oil from the Middle East. It gets most of of its oil from Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela.I think its like 14% or less last time I checked comes from the Middle East. As long as the governments of the world dont block them business and the market will adjust and compensate for fluctuations inenergy supply.
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#29 MichaeltheCM
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this is why we need to convert to electric
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this is why we need to convert to electricMichaeltheCM

You can NOT have electricity without oil though, electricity can only delay the inevitable. Scientists have been trying to find a solution to Oil since the mid 70's, and still there just is nothing that we even have the ability to comprehend that can match what Oil does for us.

And whoever said that we only get 14% of our Oil from the Middle East, you are very wrong. Saudi Arabia alone is in control of 24% of our Oil, and another 21% is in the hands of the former Soviet States. Iran controls 7 %, and Syria 3%. Canada only controls a measly 2% and Mexico 4%. We only produce about 7% of the global oil here in the U.S. (used to be MUCH more but we exported it all...big mistake) and we export most if it still today.

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[QUOTE="MichaeltheCM"]this is why we need to convert to electricchandlerr_360

You can NOT have electricity without oil though

oh yea you can, and it's been done more times than i can count. Energy Is Everywhere. take a look

Energy Technology

Renewalbe Energy

Alternative Fuel

Developement

--------But thats probably something you already know-------

It all boils down to oil, because the "man" on top made it that way. there are hundreds of ways to power a vehicle, like how diesel engines can run on vegatable oil (like on mythbusters), hydrogen, and who killed the water car?

But really energy developement is still in it's infancy, with new technologies in chemistry and the nanotech field, dependency on oil is bound to drop within 10-20yrs, or whenever large oil based companies decide to turn to a new market(which will never happen). Nanotechnology is already being implemented on alternative fuels, it's doing wonders for computer technology. Ex.

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#32 crusher2002000
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the problem isn't oil its human's greed
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#33 middito
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the problem isn't oil its human's greedcrusher2002000

pretty much, and we may end up suffering for it if we havn't already.

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#34 Darth_Tyrev
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Well, great, you just realized something that most people have known for many years.
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#35 g-unit248
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there is more oil under Greenland than in the entire middle east, there will not be a crisis anytime soon, prospecting is going on the right now and drill will start within the next few years, we are good at least for another lifetime...
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[QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]

[QUOTE="MichaeltheCM"]this is why we need to convert to electricmiddito

You can NOT have electricity without oil though

oh yea you can, and it's been done more times than i can count. Energy Is Everywhere. take a look

Energy Technology

Renewalbe Energy

Alternative Fuel

Developement

--------But thats probably something you already know-------

It all boils down to oil, because the "man" on top made it that way. there are hundreds of ways to power a vehicle, like how diesel engines can run on vegatable oil (like on mythbusters), hydrogen, and who killed the water car?

But really energy developement is still in it's infancy, with new technologies in chemistry and the nanotech field, dependency on oil is bound to drop within 10-20yrs, or whenever large oil based companies decide to turn to a new market(which will never happen). Nanotechnology is already being implemented on alternative fuels, it's doing wonders for computer technology. Ex.

Yes, those are alternate forms of energy, but like I stated before, none of them produce nearly as much energy as Oil does. To keep the entire world on pace for what it is today, Oil is the only form of energy on this Earth that can do it. Can you power cars with the above? Houses, Lights, small communities? Why yes, but on the full scale of things (production, maunfacturing, Heat, DP Power, etc.) NOTHING can fill its place. That is why if anything, even if we do get some new form of energy, life for everyone is going to change VERY drastically.

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[QUOTE="DFan17902"]It doesn't matter. December 21st 2012 will arrive before we run out of oil.chandlerr_360

Yeah, However that is not a guarantee...

That's my 23rd Birthday :cry:

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#38 Babolu
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E85 Ethanol maybe? Whenever we do get our minds in the right place, we can find a solution to anything. If President Bush wasn't into the oil money we probably would be out of Iraq by now, but thats not the only thing we are doing over there. Oil prices are also high because of the big oil companies being greedy, not because of shortages. Mankind will always have to find something to keep itself going and prospering, say if we switched mainly to E85 Ethanol, we would have to raise more corn than necessary to survive, taking up more land, leaving us with less to grow, cause prices of corn to raise.
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#39 Nerfit
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I agree with the general concept you laid out here, humans do need another viable form of resources in the future, but I don't predict it to be soon because the earth has not been complete explored and its very possible that whokknowswhere will turn out to be the largest oil reserve we have ever found and can support us for another 100 years. oil is above all other resources today only because almost everything has been designed to be powered by oil in the first place, I trust that before oil is depleted a major adjustment in technologies will occur which hopefully transit our dependence smoothly onto another type of resource, and there are indeed many other promising alternatives, wind, coal, water, nuclear, they may seem inferior to oil now but technologies will improve and we will make better use of them, no one is going sit there and die. most importantly, I trust that nations will unit to find solutions, war only ensures mutual destruction. that said I think the ultimate solution is to have fully controllable transformation from matter to energy by E=MC*2.
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E85 Ethanol maybe? Whenever we do get our minds in the right place, we can find a solution to anything. If President Bush wasn't into the oil money we probably would be out of Iraq by now, but thats not the only thing we are doing over there. Oil prices are also high because of the big oil companies being greedy, not because of shortages. Mankind will always have to find something to keep itself going and prospering, say if we switched mainly to E85 Ethanol, we would have to raise more corn than necessary to survive, taking up more land, leaving us with less to grow, cause prices of corn to raise.Babolu

We are already mixing Ethanol in with our gas to cut down on fuel emissions and fuel consumption, however it is definitely not a solution.