the vietnam war and the war on terror was and is neccessary...

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#1 ishoturface
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When you think about It you will see how they were and are necessary

communism and terrorism are both corrupted forms of government. the war in Vietnam was necessary because even though we lost that war we made a point that communism was not a good thing.

And terrorism even though some of it is not ran by governments but rebels who hate the country they live in

Point is that if we were not to go over to Vietnam all country's or just Asia would be communists soon leading to WWIII which would lead to the end of the earth

and terrorist would soon rule the entire world if we were not doing anything about it. the terrorists would also cause the end of humanity

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#2 -Sluggo-
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The Vietnam War and the War on Terror were and are necessary...
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#3 Ravirr
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Sure
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#4 PannicAtack
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Terrorism isn't a form of government...
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#5 194197844077667059316682358889
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Communism and terrorism are not forms of government...
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#6 carrot-cake
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I think the USSR its self made a point that communism is not good.
Afganistan was justifyed, but not Iraq.
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#7 carrot-cake
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Communism and terrorism are not forms of government...xaos

Of course communism is a form of government
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#8 Moroes
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First, the Vietnam war was just a a puppet war between the Soviet Union and the United States because Vietnamese casualties didn't concern either side as much as the casualties of their own people. Second, the terrorism in the Middle East can never be destroyed.... it can only be contained. Its a lot easier to kill a man than killing an idea.... and the war on Terrorism might be necessary if you think about it.... but right now I don't see any good coming from it... except the US being billions of dollars in debt to China, and other countries for the supplies of military equipment.
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#9 duxup
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The Vietnam war made no point except that we could loose a war fighting communism...

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#10 Nex_Rex
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The US did go into Vietnam to prevent it from turning communism but then Vietnam did turn communism and then shortly after the domino theory was proven false which means that there was no reason to go into Vietnam at all.
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#11 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="xaos"]Communism and terrorism are not forms of government...carrot-cake

Of course communism is a form of government

It's an economic system... do you consider capitalism a form of government?
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#12 Big_player
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[QUOTE="xaos"]Communism and terrorism are not forms of government...carrot-cake

Of course communism is a form of government


Im pretty sure it's an economic system.
Edit: out-replyed:(

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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"][QUOTE="xaos"]Communism and terrorism are not forms of government...xaos

Of course communism is a form of government

It's an economic system... do you consider capitalism a form of government?


Ohh right nevermind, got it confused with something else
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#14 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="xaos"]Communism and terrorism are not forms of government...carrot-cake

Of course communism is a form of government

Communism is the the last stage of history following a "Dictatorship of the Proletariat". The proletariat, having no one to oppress will then focus all of it's energy on the reconstruction of of society where peoples are landless and cIassess.
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#15 Moroes
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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"][QUOTE="xaos"]Communism and terrorism are not forms of government...xaos

Of course communism is a form of government

It's an economic system... do you consider capitalism a form of government?

The Communist Party of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republic was the government, not communism itself so I agree with you on that subject. Communism was the idea behind it.... but if you would like to rename it to a governmnet I would name it Radical Democracy.
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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"][QUOTE="xaos"]Communism and terrorism are not forms of government...xaos

Of course communism is a form of government

It's an economic system... do you consider capitalism a form of government?

Actually communism is economic and government. It's a combination of totalitarian and socialist ideas. My history teacher made a chart on the board a few months ago like this:

Economic/Government

Democracy= no/yes

Capitalism=yes/no

Monarchy=no/yes

Socialism=yes/no

Communism=yes/yes

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#17 ElectronicMagic
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I think both are unnecessary, but the reason why I think the war on terror is unnecessary is because I think terror is something for police to fight against, not the military.
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#18 ishoturface
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The Vietnam War and the War on Terror were and are necessary...-Sluggo-
Thank YOU
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#20 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="-Sluggo-"]The Vietnam War and the War on Terror were and are necessary...ishoturface
Thank YOU

He was correcting your poor grammar.
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Q: Why did America go into Vietnam, just to end up losing it and causing the death of thousands of people?

A: Why, to prove that communism is bad!

I don't know if I should be laughing or crying :|.

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#22 ishoturface
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[QUOTE="ishoturface"][QUOTE="-Sluggo-"]The Vietnam War and the War on Terror were and are necessary...MattUD1
Thank YOU

He was correcting your poor grammar.

what ev i live the south give me a break
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#23 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="ishoturface"][QUOTE="-Sluggo-"]The Vietnam War and the War on Terror were and are necessary...ishoturface
Thank YOU

He was correcting your poor grammar.

what ev i live the south give me a break

I refuse to play or allow stereotypes... :x
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Thw Vietnam War definately wasn't necessery. Ho Chi Minh never had any ambitions to spread Communism. He just wanted an independent Vietnam, under a fairer system. For Vietnam, Communism was always going to be the best option, due to the high percentage of poor farmers. They didn't want Capitalism, and it was a waste of billions of dollars and millions of lives trying to force it upon the Vietnamese.
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Communism and terrorism are not forms of government...xaos
Are you actually saying communism isn't a form of government?
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#26 monkeytoes61
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Thw Vietnam War definately wasn't necessery. Ho Chi Minh never had any ambitions to spread Communism. He just wanted an independent Vietnam, under a fairer system. For Vietnam, Communism was always going to be the best option, due to the high percentage of poor farmers. They didn't want Capitalism, and it was a waste of billions of dollars and millions of lives trying to force it upon the Vietnamese.Bourbons3
He may not have had the intention, but communism would have spread.
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#27 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="xaos"]Communism and terrorism are not forms of government...monkeytoes61
Are you actually saying communism isn't a form of government?

The USSR wasn't communist, just like the DPRNK isn't a democracy.
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#28 Bourbons3
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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="xaos"]Communism and terrorism are not forms of government...MattUD1
Are you actually saying communism isn't a form of government?

The USSR wasn't communist, just like the DPRNK isn't a democracy.

What?! :shock:
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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="xaos"]Communism and terrorism are not forms of government...MattUD1
Are you actually saying communism isn't a form of government?

The USSR wasn't communist, just like the DPRNK isn't a democracy.

Are you really saying the USSR wasn't communist?
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#30 bradleybhoy
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The Iraq War is unecessary and so was Vietnam. Unnecessary loss of life = FAIL for the agressor.

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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="xaos"]Communism and terrorism are not forms of government...monkeytoes61
Are you actually saying communism isn't a form of government?

The USSR wasn't communist, just like the DPRNK isn't a democracy.

Are you really saying the USSR wasn't communist?

It clearly wasn't in practice. Communist by name, yes.

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Q: Why did America go into Vietnam, just to end up losing it and causing the death of thousands of people?

A: Why, to prove that communism is bad!

I don't know if I should be laughing or crying :|.

Mochyc

Yeah...

What he said >_>

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#33 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="xaos"]Communism and terrorism are not forms of government...monkeytoes61
Are you actually saying communism isn't a form of government?

The USSR wasn't communist, just like the DPRNK isn't a democracy.

Are you really saying the USSR wasn't communist?

That's exactly what I'm saying. They called themselves communist, they even claimed during the 60's to have acheived the ultimate goal of communism (a cIassless, propertyless society), but they were never communist. They were however, socialist I will give you that. Socialism is one of the steps towards the "utopia" of Communism.
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#34 lostantix
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No. They were not necessary.
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#35 novalue
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what makes communism bad? the US governement saying so?

Communism is actually very good...in theory of course.

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#36 Hewkii
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communism and terrorism are both corrupted forms of government. the war in Vietnam was necessary because even though we lost that war we made a point that communism was not a good thing.

ishoturface

it was such a not good thing, it even beat the most powerful military in the world of the day.

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#37 bradleybhoy
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what makes communism bad? the US governement saying so?

Communism is actually very good...in theory of course.

novalue

I don't get it why people always say "in theory".

If Communism were to be practiced it would be brilliant too. It's just that significant attempts at it have failed miserably and whatever the results were they certainly weren't Communism.

I think the only way for Communism to be practiced succersfully is for it to be Democratic and stem from a succesful Socalist society.

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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="ishoturface"][QUOTE="-Sluggo-"]The Vietnam War and the War on Terror were and are necessary...ishoturface
Thank YOU

He was correcting your poor grammar.

what ev i live the south give me a break

Joke thread? >_>
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#39 novalue
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[QUOTE="novalue"]

what makes communism bad? the US governement saying so?

Communism is actually very good...in theory of course.

bradleybhoy

I don't get it why people always say "in theory".

If Communism were to be practiced it would be brilliant too. It's just that significant attempts at it have failed miserably and whatever the results they certainly weren't Communism.

exactly, since it has never been enacted the correct way, its still a theory....so in theory its perfect.

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#40 bradleybhoy
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[QUOTE="bradleybhoy"][QUOTE="novalue"]

what makes communism bad? the US governement saying so?

Communism is actually very good...in theory of course.

novalue

I don't get it why people always say "in theory".

If Communism were to be practiced it would be brilliant too. It's just that significant attempts at it have failed miserably and whatever the results they certainly weren't Communism.

exactly, since it has never been enacted the correct way, its still a theory....so in theory its perfect.

Ah! Point taken. ;)

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#41 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="novalue"]

what makes communism bad? the US governement saying so?

Communism is actually very good...in theory of course.

bradleybhoy

I don't get it why people always say "in theory".

If Communism were to be practiced it would be brilliant too. It's just that significant attempts at it have failed miserably and whatever the results were they certainly weren't Communism.

I think the only way for Communism to be practiced succersfully is for it to be Democratic and stem from a succesful Socalist society.

Most people say in theory because they grasp the idea that Marx may have been wrong about the nature of humans pursuing the betterment (if that's even a word) of society when they would have no one to oppress. Of course, I don't believe in the countries that have been called "Communist" the Dictatorship of the Proletariat has never happened so that stage where the good in people reveals itself has never been seen.