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#1 AcidJiles
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So many issues in the world come back to the fact that the world can only support a limited population reasonably and we passed that point a while ago. The world already over populated is growing at 1.3% a year or 80 million people and isnt going to stabilise till 2050 at around 8 billion. The enviromental issues, over crowding, malnutrition, social strife ( in many areas not all), limited resources and a break down of morals in some areas can all be traced to the huge population sizes we have today. I see this issue so rarely covered in tv, newspapers and other media I would imagine due to it being such a sensitive issue. So hard to think of a way round the issue, to find a solution that doesnt cause huge issues in itself. China took the first step with its one child policy but this leads to children being killed because of the wrong sex e.g. not male and huge social issues for example how to pay for an aging population. I have no answers I just wanted to open the issue up and something that will be larger than terrorism, global warming or any other issue once people stop being scared of discussing the future of humankind how contentious it maybe.
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#2 AcidJiles
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btw how do i eneter paragrapgh breaks because enter doesnt show up when i create the post :)
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#3 DeeJayInphinity
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People need to start using condoms a lot more. Especially teenagers.
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#4 panda_power
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There's not enough Pandas in the world.
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#5 Squidward117
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Hai guys! Guess what time it is?

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#6 SpootyHead
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genocide
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#7 cell1138
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There's not enough Pandas in the world.panda_power
agreed :x :evil:

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#8 panda_power
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Hai guys! Guess what time it is?

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Hammer time

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#9 Hoobinator
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Actually I see the world completely differently, the world has plenty of space, it has plenty of water, it has plenty of food, enough for everyone and then some.

The major problem with something like lack of food is access to it or lack of money to buy it. It's the cost of say transporting a bag of rice from thailand to Sudan that is not feasible for the government or for the people. It's not because there is no rice for them, there is plenty of rice but no means to access.

If you remember the Ethiopia famine in 1984 it wasn't that there was no food in the shops or in the markets, it was no one had money to buy any so they were starving.

That's the kind of world we live in.

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#10 deactivated-5de2fb6a3a711
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Hai guys! Guess what time it is?

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Death Note time? hmmm.... give me a Death Note and all the photo IDs you can find... a yearbook works fine, too.

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#11 AcidJiles
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genocideSpootyHead
so kill all the supid people so evolution will actually continue?
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#13 delol
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Yes it is but the true issue here is :what can we do about it ;massive sterilization in India didn´t work ´´one family one child ´´ campaign in China did not work as well so what must the world do to avoid demographic disaster? I have not a simple answer
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#14 fastesttruck
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I dont like many people. There sure are WAY to many people on this earth. More of them need to join GameSpot :):P
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#15 SpootyHead
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[QUOTE="SpootyHead"]genocideAcidJiles
so kill all the stupid people so evolution will actually continue?

Yep. :)
Evolution = good. Stagnation of the human race and inevitable extinction = bad.
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#16 Hoobinator
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genocideSpootyHead

We'll start with anglo-saxons first and their descendants.

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Actually I see the world completely differently, the world has plenty of space, it has plenty of water, it has plenty of food, enough for everyone and then some.

The major problem with something like lack of food is access to it or lack of money to buy it. It's the cost of say transporting a baf of rice from thailand to Sudan that is not feasible for the government or for the people.

If you remember the Ethiopia famine in 1984 it wasn't that there was no food in the shops or in the markets, it was no one had money to buy any so they were starving.

Hoobinator
SO you would be happy with no open spaces in the parts of the world that are reasonably habitable?
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#18 ernie1989
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[QUOTE="panda_power"]There's not enough Pandas in the world.cell1138

agreed :x :evil:

I love pandas. :oops:

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#19 Shiggums
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The only place with overcrowding issues is India. They have over a billion people in a space much too small for it. China is close to overcrowding, but they still have so much rural areas and non-mountainous space that they'll be fine for about 3 years (with their population rising so quick.
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The world's population is growing super-exponentially. Maybe people should be praising all those countries starting wars :?

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#22 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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[QUOTE="cell1138"]

[QUOTE="panda_power"]There's not enough Pandas in the world.ernie1989

agreed :x :evil:

I love pandas. :oops:

That's what you think, but just wait till one steals your parking space.

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#23 AcidJiles
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[QUOTE="AcidJiles"][QUOTE="SpootyHead"]genocideSpootyHead
so kill all the stupid people so evolution will actually continue?

Yep. :)
Evolution = good. Stagnation of the human race and inevitable extinction = bad.

i have to say that i agree with the idea far more than i really should. well as contemporary morailty would suggest. Most of concern is for the future of the human race not the individual, not even the 100 million or 1 billion people but the future of the species.
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#24 fastesttruck
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Yes we should have more pandas in the world :) as well as birds :)
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#25 SpootyHead
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The world's population is growing super-exponentially. Maybe people should be praising all those countries starting wars :?

sonicare

This is why I don't give a crap about gay marriage and abortion. That means less kids to screw up our future any more than what we will.
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#26 Hoobinator
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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

Actually I see the world completely differently, the world has plenty of space, it has plenty of water, it has plenty of food, enough for everyone and then some.

The major problem with something like lack of food is access to it or lack of money to buy it. It's the cost of say transporting a baf of rice from thailand to Sudan that is not feasible for the government or for the people.

If you remember the Ethiopia famine in 1984 it wasn't that there was no food in the shops or in the markets, it was no one had money to buy any so they were starving.

AcidJiles

SO you would be happy with no open spaces in the parts of the world that are reasonably habitable?

What are you on about? Half the world has sparse population. I don't think you've seen anything of the world. Look at Kazakhstan as an example huge fertile plains with no people living there. Same goes for huge areas of the US, it's BS to say the US is overcrowded, you may be right to say NY is overcrowded or LA is overcrowded but to say the US is overcrowded is scare-mongering.

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#27 Banned2x
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i think ur absolutly right. I hate it when people try to keep people alive past their time. Its life get over it if ur keeping a mentally disabled person on life support what for!? just let them go just like old people. And also all these dam political people against abortions wtf is that?! i think we should have more abortions and let people decised if they want to have a baby or not. The government cant control that...they're just adding to the problem. watch in a few years people are gonna start dieing left and right because of global warming and disease...and they will prolly kill off many species of animal just to accomodate the population for housing and stuff. Mother nature has a way of getting rid of things that she doesnt like...and i think where on the top of her list.
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#28 Hoobinator
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The world's population is growing super-exponentially. Maybe people should be praising all those countries starting wars :?

sonicare

Of course lets kill them because we need their food and space. Sieg Heil much.

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#29 SpootyHead
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[QUOTE="SpootyHead"][QUOTE="AcidJiles"][QUOTE="SpootyHead"]genocideAcidJiles
so kill all the stupid people so evolution will actually continue?

Yep. :)
Evolution = good. Stagnation of the human race and inevitable extinction = bad.

i have to say that i agree with the idea far more than i really should. well as contemporary morailty would suggest. Most of concern is for the future of the human race not the individual, not even the 100 million or 1 billion people but the future of the species.

I think the problem is that our government isn't quiet thinking about the future as much as they should. They think about the "now" and the "past" instead of, oh yeah, we just screwed the future of our species.

haha, I just watched Soylent Green this morning. I'm not going to say anything more about SG.
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#30 Banned2x
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[QUOTE="AcidJiles"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

Actually I see the world completely differently, the world has plenty of space, it has plenty of water, it has plenty of food, enough for everyone and then some.

The major problem with something like lack of food is access to it or lack of money to buy it. It's the cost of say transporting a baf of rice from thailand to Sudan that is not feasible for the government or for the people.

If you remember the Ethiopia famine in 1984 it wasn't that there was no food in the shops or in the markets, it was no one had money to buy any so they were starving.

Hoobinator

SO you would be happy with no open spaces in the parts of the world that are reasonably habitable?

What are you on about? Half the world has sparse population. I don't think you've seen anything of the world. Look at Kazakhstan as an example huge fertile plains with no people living there. Same goes for huge areas of the US, it's BS to say the US is overcrowded, you may be right to say NY is overcrowded or LA is overcrowded but to say the US is overcrowded is scare-mongering.

did u ever think about the animals that live in those places? whould u destroy all living animals in the US just to build room for more ignorant selfish people?

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#31 Silchas
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Seriously.
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#32 panda_power
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[QUOTE="ernie1989"][QUOTE="cell1138"]

[QUOTE="panda_power"]There's not enough Pandas in the world.sonicare

agreed :x :evil:

I love pandas. :oops:

That's what you think, but just wait till one steals your parking space.

Hey, a pandas gotta park somewhere

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#33 Hoobinator
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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="AcidJiles"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

Actually I see the world completely differently, the world has plenty of space, it has plenty of water, it has plenty of food, enough for everyone and then some.

The major problem with something like lack of food is access to it or lack of money to buy it. It's the cost of say transporting a baf of rice from thailand to Sudan that is not feasible for the government or for the people.

If you remember the Ethiopia famine in 1984 it wasn't that there was no food in the shops or in the markets, it was no one had money to buy any so they were starving.

Banned2x

SO you would be happy with no open spaces in the parts of the world that are reasonably habitable?

What are you on about? Half the world has sparse population. I don't think you've seen anything of the world. Look at Kazakhstan as an example huge fertile plains with no people living there. Same goes for huge areas of the US, it's BS to say the US is overcrowded, you may be right to say NY is overcrowded or LA is overcrowded but to say the US is overcrowded is scare-mongering.

did u ever think about the animals that live in those places? whould u destroy all living animals in the US just to build room for more ignorant selfish people?

:| So you're OK for the eradication of human beings but not animals. As much as I value animal life I do not and never will hold it equal to a human life.

Secondly you can herd these animals and use them and live peacefully amongst them. Stop thinking in western industrialist terms where everything must be a huge urban block, you could keep these animals as part of your home or have farms operate freely on the common land.

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#34 cool_baller
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To decrease the population, kill all the mental ill people(sorry), kill all the drug abusers, people who live with their parenst until they are 40, and people in general who don't produce in the society they are living in.
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#35 Hoobinator
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I hope some people in this thread are joking (^^ above), otherwise :?. My sarcasm detector was trampled on by System Wars so I can't tell.
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#36 GettingTired
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Maybe certain poorer countries need greater access to condoms. Seriously, why have a family of 10 children when you can't even afford it?
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I hope some people in this thread are joking (^^ above), otherwise :?. My sarcasm detector was trampled on by System Wars so I can't tell. Hoobinator
I am just joking... or am I? Nah just playin... or am I? :shock:
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Maybe certain poorer countries need greater access to condoms. Seriously, why have a family of 10 children when you can't even afford it?GettingTired
I actually heard the reason for this is that they don't know that having sex will make a baby pop out... I would like to know if this is true or not, as in they don't know sex = babies.
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#39 Banned2x
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They should kill all those bastards serving life in prison, all mental people should die, all people on life support should die...o yea and Bush should die :) also radical islamics now that would be a utopia! and also i value animal life more than human life. Humans think they are the mighest of all species but all they have is technology. I would love to see a human go one on one with a tiger with out any weapons the human wouldnt last long.
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#40 delol
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[QUOTE="GettingTired"]Maybe certain poorer countries need greater access to condoms. Seriously, why have a family of 10 children when you can't even afford it?SpootyHead
I actually heard the reason for this is that they don't know that having sex will make a baby pop out... I would like to know if this is true or not, as in they don't know sex = babies.

Man you are a racist arrogant dude
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#41 izzi88
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This is BS,.., the world is in NO WAY overcrowded.,., the global food supply is higher than it has ever been!,. there are millions upon millions of miles of uninhabited land.,.,

people, dont ever let anyone tell you we are running out of food or land

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[QUOTE="AcidJiles"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

Actually I see the world completely differently, the world has plenty of space, it has plenty of water, it has plenty of food, enough for everyone and then some.

The major problem with something like lack of food is access to it or lack of money to buy it. It's the cost of say transporting a baf of rice from thailand to Sudan that is not feasible for the government or for the people.

If you remember the Ethiopia famine in 1984 it wasn't that there was no food in the shops or in the markets, it was no one had money to buy any so they were starving.

Hoobinator

SO you would be happy with no open spaces in the parts of the world that are reasonably habitable?

What are you on about? Half the world has sparse population. I don't think you've seen anything of the world. Look at Kazakhstan as an example huge fertile plains with no people living there. Same goes for huge areas of the US, it's BS to say the US is overcrowded, you may be right to say NY is overcrowded or LA is overcrowded but to say the US is overcrowded is scare-mongering.

You do know that while birth rates are falling in developed countries such as Japan, the US, and the UK, that the birth rates are exploding in places like Ethiopia right? Here's some statistics from my sociology class:

- Currently, the world is gaining 73 million people per year with 96% of this increase in poor countries
- Growth rates are highest in poor, underdeveloped nations. Latin America has a growth rate of 2%, meaning its population will double in 35 years. Africa has a growth rate of 3% meanig their population will double in 24 years. In contrast, the US has a growth rate of 0.5%, and Europe as a whole has a growth rate of -0.2% (meaning their population is decreasing).

In other words, the people who should be having kids aren't, and the people who shouldn't be having kids are. Just because there's plenty of room left in the world doesn't mean it isn't overcrowded. You're forgetting things like availbility of things like food and water. Those sparsely populated areas you mention don't have enough resources to maintain their populations (in other words they're overcrowded). The truth is that the world doesn't have the resources to keep 11 billion people alive (which is what the projected population will be by 2100).

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#43 Hoobinator
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This is BS,.., the world is in NO WAY overcrowded.,., the global food supply is higher than it has ever been!,. there are millions upon millions of miles of uninhabited land.,.,

people, dont ever let anyone tell you we are running out of food or land

izzi88

Yep. :D Although the access to that food and water is severely limited for half the worlds population.

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60% of the world isnt even used :|
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#45 illwillpress88
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So many issues in the world come back to the fact that the world can only support a limited population reasonably and we passed that point a while ago. The world already over populated is growing at 1.3% a year or 80 million people and isnt going to stabilise till 2050 at around 8 billion. The enviromental issues, over crowding, malnutrition, social strife ( in many areas not all), limited resources and a break down of morals in some areas can all be traced to the huge population sizes we have today. I see this issue so rarely covered in tv, newspapers and other media I would imagine due to it being such a sensitive issue. So hard to think of a way round the issue, to find a solution that doesnt cause huge issues in itself. China took the first step with its one child policy but this leads to children being killed because of the wrong sex e.g. not male and huge social issues for example how to pay for an aging population. I have no answers I just wanted to open the issue up and something that will be larger than terrorism, global warming or any other issue once people stop being scared of discussing the future of humankind how contentious it maybe.AcidJiles
The world isn't over populated, we are only over populated in some areas of the world. Many places in the world especially America Have less people with in 1000s of miles than 40 miles of LA.
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Drop the nukes...that'll fix it.
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#47 AcidJiles
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[QUOTE="SpootyHead"][QUOTE="GettingTired"]Maybe certain poorer countries need greater access to condoms. Seriously, why have a family of 10 children when you can't even afford it?delol
I actually heard the reason for this is that they don't know that having sex will make a baby pop out... I would like to know if this is true or not, as in they don't know sex = babies.

Man you are a racist arrogant dude

he asks a question about a fact he suggests which is prehaps assuming a little much and that makes him racist. without the "is this true or not sure" its racist but with that statement its not so dont jump up and down over nothing.
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#48 Greatgone12
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Cannibalism. It solves two problems: world hunger and overpopulation. Might even solve pollution if we're creative.
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#49 AcidJiles
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60% of the world isnt even used :|downPlayDemon
a lot of the world isnt habitable without destroying 1000's of miles of enviroment
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#50 Travo_basic
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There's not enough Pandas in the world.panda_power

That is a sad fact of life. Do you think if there are more pandas than human then the world would be a better place?