I know it's not a real Calvin and Hobbes comic, but I still found it really depressing :(.
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I don't get it.cyberdarkkidCalvin realized Hobbes was just a stuffed animal and stopped having him as an "imaginary" friend.
I dont get it... thye grow down?Helbrec
I don't get it.cyberdarkkidUm,no.Calvin is growing up,so he's getting to old to believe his stuffed tiger is actually real anymore.
Anyways,my heart just sunk a bit after reading that...:(
[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"]I don't get it.needled24-7Calvin realized Hobbes was just a stuffed animal and stopped having him as an "imaginary" friend. What? :shock: I see why you guys find it depressing now.
[QUOTE="needled24-7"][QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"]I don't get it.cyberdarkkidCalvin realized Hobbes was just a stuffed animal and stopped having him as an "imaginary" friend. What? :shock: I see why you guys find it depressing now.
Yeah :cry:
I know it's not a real Calvin and Hobbes comic, but I still found it really depressing :(.
chessmaster1989
Not really depressing at all. Not in my opinion, at least.
And even if that's not a real Calvin and Hobbes strip, that's really not that out of whack from the kind of humor that actually sometimes appeared in those strips. So even though that's not real, that's actually pretty good.
It's funny and it may be indicative of a sort of loss of childhood innocence, but I fail to see how that's "depressing". That's the natural course of life, and it's one of the most fundamental steps on the path to actually becoming a GOOD person. We all find chilhood innocence charming and cute, but I don't know one single parent who doesn't want to live to see his/her child get married, graduate from college, get a successful career, and have kids. Seeing a child grow up and put away childish things shouldn't be depressing, it's supposed to be something to celebrate.
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]I know it's not a real Calvin and Hobbes comic, but I still found it really depressing :(.
MrGeezer
Not really depressing at all. Not in my opinion, at least.
And even if that's not a real Calvin and Hobbes strip, that's really not that out of whack from the kind of humor that actually sometimes appeared in those strips. So even though that's not real, that's actually pretty good.
It's funny and it may be indicative of a sort of loss of childhood innocence, but I fail to see how that's "depressing". That's the natural course of life, and it's one of the most fundamental steps on the path to actually becoming a GOOD person. We all find chilhood innocence charming and cute, but I don't know one single parent who doesn't want to live to see his/her child get married, graduate from college, get a successful career, and have kids. Seeing a child grow up and put away childish things shouldn't be depressing, it's supposed to be something to celebrate.
Are you heartless? :(
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]I know it's not a real Calvin and Hobbes comic, but I still found it really depressing :(.
MrGeezer
Not really depressing at all. Not in my opinion, at least.
And even if that's not a real Calvin and Hobbes strip, that's really not that out of whack from the kind of humor that actually sometimes appeared in those strips. So even though that's not real, that's actually pretty good.
It's funny and it may be indicative of a sort of loss of childhood innocence, but I fail to see how that's "depressing". That's the natural course of life, and it's one of the most fundamental steps on the path to actually becoming a GOOD person. We all find chilhood innocence charming and cute, but I don't know one single parent who doesn't want to live to see his/her child get married, graduate from college, get a successful career, and have kids. Seeing a child grow up and put away childish things shouldn't be depressing, it's supposed to be something to celebrate.
Hey, tell me what it feels like to have a heart made of stone.
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]I know it's not a real Calvin and Hobbes comic, but I still found it really depressing :(.
MrGeezer
Not really depressing at all. Not in my opinion, at least.
And even if that's not a real Calvin and Hobbes strip, that's really not that out of whack from the kind of humor that actually sometimes appeared in those strips. So even though that's not real, that's actually pretty good.
It's funny and it may be indicative of a sort of loss of childhood innocence, but I fail to see how that's "depressing". That's the natural course of life, and it's one of the most fundamental steps on the path to actually becoming a GOOD person. We all find chilhood innocence charming and cute, but I don't know one single parent who doesn't want to live to see his/her child get married, graduate from college, get a successful career, and have kids. Seeing a child grow up and put away childish things shouldn't be depressing, it's supposed to be something to celebrate.
i dunno, i think we all here get the feeling that after Calvin grew up, he somehow lost something that most of us lose as we grow up. I can't put my finger to it, it's not fun or charming, but something that is within some of us when we were younger.[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]I know it's not a real Calvin and Hobbes comic, but I still found it really depressing :(.
MrGeezer
Not really depressing at all. Not in my opinion, at least.
And even if that's not a real Calvin and Hobbes strip, that's really not that out of whack from the kind of humor that actually sometimes appeared in those strips. So even though that's not real, that's actually pretty good.
It's funny and it may be indicative of a sort of loss of childhood innocence, but I fail to see how that's "depressing". That's the natural course of life, and it's one of the most fundamental steps on the path to actually becoming a GOOD person. We all find chilhood innocence charming and cute, but I don't know one single parent who doesn't want to live to see his/her child get married, graduate from college, get a successful career, and have kids. Seeing a child grow up and put away childish things shouldn't be depressing, it's supposed to be something to celebrate.
What is natural doesn't have to be good. When children grow up, they also grow apart from their parents.By the way, I didn't find that comic strip depressing either.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]I know it's not a real Calvin and Hobbes comic, but I still found it really depressing :(.
Optical_Order
Not really depressing at all. Not in my opinion, at least.
And even if that's not a real Calvin and Hobbes strip, that's really not that out of whack from the kind of humor that actually sometimes appeared in those strips. So even though that's not real, that's actually pretty good.
It's funny and it may be indicative of a sort of loss of childhood innocence, but I fail to see how that's "depressing". That's the natural course of life, and it's one of the most fundamental steps on the path to actually becoming a GOOD person. We all find chilhood innocence charming and cute, but I don't know one single parent who doesn't want to live to see his/her child get married, graduate from college, get a successful career, and have kids. Seeing a child grow up and put away childish things shouldn't be depressing, it's supposed to be something to celebrate.
Hey, tell me what it feels like to have a heart made of stone.
Well your childhood defines who you are later in life. You should cherish and hold dear memories from when you were little, forgetting and ignoring who you used to be is forgetting who you really are. A valued attribute of people is their child side they grew up with which is important for intimate and lasting relationships and general happiness. Besides, it isnt really that depressing but it is a little sad.[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]I know it's not a real Calvin and Hobbes comic, but I still found it really depressing :(.
Optical_Order
Not really depressing at all. Not in my opinion, at least.
And even if that's not a real Calvin and Hobbes strip, that's really not that out of whack from the kind of humor that actually sometimes appeared in those strips. So even though that's not real, that's actually pretty good.
It's funny and it may be indicative of a sort of loss of childhood innocence, but I fail to see how that's "depressing". That's the natural course of life, and it's one of the most fundamental steps on the path to actually becoming a GOOD person. We all find chilhood innocence charming and cute, but I don't know one single parent who doesn't want to live to see his/her child get married, graduate from college, get a successful career, and have kids. Seeing a child grow up and put away childish things shouldn't be depressing, it's supposed to be something to celebrate.
Hey, tell me what it feels like to have a heart made of stone.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand your guys' comments.
Yes, I understand that childhood stupidity is CUTE, but it is GOOD when kids start to grow out of that. I've known several people in their 20s and 30s who NEVER grew out of that "little kid" phase. And by that time, acting like a kid becomes REALLY sad and depressing to everyone who sees them.
Fact: Calvin has an imaginary friend. It's "cute" because it's a cute stuffed animal toy, but what if it wasn't a cute little stuffed tiger doll? What if it was a little stuffed devil toy instead, and Calvin was pretending that he is actually best friends with The Devil? It'd be pretty different THEN, wouldn't it?
That's a spin-off from the final episode of some medical TV show...I forgot the name...This is also depressing
gamertylers
EDIT: It's St. Elsewhere.
[QUOTE="Optical_Order"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Not really depressing at all. Not in my opinion, at least.
And even if that's not a real Calvin and Hobbes strip, that's really not that out of whack from the kind of humor that actually sometimes appeared in those strips. So even though that's not real, that's actually pretty good.
It's funny and it may be indicative of a sort of loss of childhood innocence, but I fail to see how that's "depressing". That's the natural course of life, and it's one of the most fundamental steps on the path to actually becoming a GOOD person. We all find chilhood innocence charming and cute, but I don't know one single parent who doesn't want to live to see his/her child get married, graduate from college, get a successful career, and have kids. Seeing a child grow up and put away childish things shouldn't be depressing, it's supposed to be something to celebrate.
MrGeezer
Hey, tell me what it feels like to have a heart made of stone.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand your guys' comments.
Yes, I understand that childhood stupidity is CUTE, but it is GOOD when kids start to grow out of that. I've known several people in their 20s and 30s who NEVER grew out of that "little kid" phase. And by that time, acting like a kid becomes REALLY sad and depressing to everyone who sees them.
Fact: Calvin has an imaginary friend. It's "cute" because it's a cute stuffed animal toy, but what if it wasn't a cute little stuffed tiger doll? What if it was a little stuffed devil toy instead, and Calvin was pretending that he is actually best friends with The Devil? It'd be pretty different THEN, wouldn't it?
You don't get it because you are taking this way to seriously and thinking way too logically. Go read some Calvin and Hobbs. It could do you some good.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]I know it's not a real Calvin and Hobbes comic, but I still found it really depressing :(.
Bartimaeus23
Not really depressing at all. Not in my opinion, at least.
And even if that's not a real Calvin and Hobbes strip, that's really not that out of whack from the kind of humor that actually sometimes appeared in those strips. So even though that's not real, that's actually pretty good.
It's funny and it may be indicative of a sort of loss of childhood innocence, but I fail to see how that's "depressing". That's the natural course of life, and it's one of the most fundamental steps on the path to actually becoming a GOOD person. We all find chilhood innocence charming and cute, but I don't know one single parent who doesn't want to live to see his/her child get married, graduate from college, get a successful career, and have kids. Seeing a child grow up and put away childish things shouldn't be depressing, it's supposed to be something to celebrate.
What is natural doesn't have to be good. When children grow up, they also grow apart from their parents.By the way, I didn't find that comic strip depressing either.
You SHOULD grow apart from your parents (to some extent or another) after growing up simply because YOU DON'T NEED YOUR PARENTS any more.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand your guys' comments.
Yes, I understand that childhood stupidity is CUTE, but it is GOOD when kids start to grow out of that. I've known several people in their 20s and 30s who NEVER grew out of that "little kid" phase. And by that time, acting like a kid becomes REALLY sad and depressing to everyone who sees them.
Fact: Calvin has an imaginary friend. It's "cute" because it's a cute stuffed animal toy, but what if it wasn't a cute little stuffed tiger doll? What if it was a little stuffed devil toy instead, and Calvin was pretending that he is actually best friends with The Devil? It'd be pretty different THEN, wouldn't it?
MrGeezer
I disagree so strongly with the idea that people necessarily must outgrow things they enjoyed as a kid as they grow older that I wrote an entire blog entry on that subject a while back. :P
Given how huge a part of my childhood Calvin and Hobbes was, I can say that, yes, this was very depressing. :cry:
I will alleviate that fact with this:
GabuEx
:D always entertaining.
I ordered the C&H Collector's version (the three hardbacks with all of the Calvin and Hobbes comics), as all of my comics are at home (I'm at college).
As soon as they come, I'm going to read some ;). I can't wait :D.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]I'm sorry, but I don't understand your guys' comments.
Yes, I understand that childhood stupidity is CUTE, but it is GOOD when kids start to grow out of that. I've known several people in their 20s and 30s who NEVER grew out of that "little kid" phase. And by that time, acting like a kid becomes REALLY sad and depressing to everyone who sees them.
Fact: Calvin has an imaginary friend. It's "cute" because it's a cute stuffed animal toy, but what if it wasn't a cute little stuffed tiger doll? What if it was a little stuffed devil toy instead, and Calvin was pretending that he is actually best friends with The Devil? It'd be pretty different THEN, wouldn't it?
GabuEx
I disagree so strongly with the idea that people necessarily must outgrow things they enjoyed as a kid as they grow older that I wrote an entire blog entry on that subject a while back. :P
I agree! I still enjoy Looney Tunes every now and then :D.
[QUOTE="Bartimaeus23"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]What is natural doesn't have to be good. When children grow up, they also grow apart from their parents.Not really depressing at all. Not in my opinion, at least.
And even if that's not a real Calvin and Hobbes strip, that's really not that out of whack from the kind of humor that actually sometimes appeared in those strips. So even though that's not real, that's actually pretty good.
It's funny and it may be indicative of a sort of loss of childhood innocence, but I fail to see how that's "depressing". That's the natural course of life, and it's one of the most fundamental steps on the path to actually becoming a GOOD person. We all find chilhood innocence charming and cute, but I don't know one single parent who doesn't want to live to see his/her child get married, graduate from college, get a successful career, and have kids. Seeing a child grow up and put away childish things shouldn't be depressing, it's supposed to be something to celebrate.
MrGeezer
By the way, I didn't find that comic strip depressing either.
You SHOULD grow apart from your parents (to some extent or another) after growing up simply because YOU DON'T NEED YOUR PARENTS any more.
I'm not saying that you shouldn't. I'm saying that parents can also be sad about that.:) Calvin and Hobbes were always funny. This topic made me remember something even more depressing: the day I had to give them away all of my C&H books cause I was told I was to old for them (I was only 6.) I died a little inside that day :(. Now I'm regretting clicking on ths topic even more.Given how huge a part of my childhood Calvin and Hobbes was, I can say that, yes, this was very depressing. :cry:
I will alleviate that fact with this:
GabuEx
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]I'm sorry, but I don't understand your guys' comments.
Yes, I understand that childhood stupidity is CUTE, but it is GOOD when kids start to grow out of that. I've known several people in their 20s and 30s who NEVER grew out of that "little kid" phase. And by that time, acting like a kid becomes REALLY sad and depressing to everyone who sees them.
Fact: Calvin has an imaginary friend. It's "cute" because it's a cute stuffed animal toy, but what if it wasn't a cute little stuffed tiger doll? What if it was a little stuffed devil toy instead, and Calvin was pretending that he is actually best friends with The Devil? It'd be pretty different THEN, wouldn't it?
GabuEx
I disagree so strongly with the idea that people necessarily must outgrow things they enjoyed as a kid as they grow older that I wrote an entire blog entry on that subject a while back. :P
I didn't say that kids have to outggrow things that they loved at children. But if you EVER see a grown man who still has imaginary friends, I guarantee you that that guy is ****ed up in the head.
If Calvin were to keep Hobbes for the rest of his life, that would be okay. Because that would make Hobbes a SYMBOL of what Calvin was and where Calvin came from, and what forces and values changed Calvin's life. But if Calvin were to still BELIEVE that Hobbes was his friend at 25 years of age, that's very different. That would be more than a little bit ****ed up. Whenever you have a grown man who still believes in imaginary friends, you're looking at a grown man with SERIOUS and potentially life-crippling mental and emotional problems for which he should seek serious professional help.
This topic made me remember something even more depressing: the day I had to give them away all of my C&H books cause I was told I was to old for them (I was only 6.)LZ71
Too old for Calvin and Hobbes!? People might be too young to truly appreciate the magic of Calvin and Hobbes, but I'm floored by the idea that anyone could be too old for it.
To help with this thread being depressing, here's one of my favorite strips ever:
I didn't say that kids have to outggrow things that they loved at children. But if you EVER see a grown man who still has imaginary friends, I guarantee you that that guy is ****ed up in the head.
If Calvin were to keep Hobbes for the rest of his life, that would be okay. Because that would make Hobbes a SYMBOL of what Calvin was and where Calvin came from, and what forces and values changed Calvin's life. But if Calvin were to still BELIEVE that Hobbes was his friend at 25 years of age, that's very different. That would be more than a little bit ****ed up. Whenever you have a grown man who still believes in imaginary friends, you're looking at a grown man with SERIOUS and potentially life-crippling mental and emotional problems for which he should seek serious emotional help.
MrGeezer
Depends on whether Calvin actually thought that Hobbes was real. If he did, then yes, I would agree - actual, bona fide belief in an imaginary friend as an adult would probably indicate some sort of mental illness. But, if it's more along the line of a harmless fantasy, then I'm not so sure. I think reality and its often bleak nature thrusts itself on adults enough as it is without those adults purposely embracing it. That's one of the reasons I started writing - it was the most socially acceptable venue available for me to express my fantasies. ;)
I am man enough to say i cried a little at thatmomo372You cried just because of that? :| What was this comic book about?
It's funny and it may be indicative of a sort of loss of childhood innocence, but I fail to see how that's "depressing". That's the natural course of life, and it's one of the most fundamental steps on the path to actually becoming a GOOD person. We all find chilhood innocence charming and cute, but I don't know one single parent who doesn't want to live to see his/her child get married, graduate from college, get a successful career, and have kids. Seeing a child grow up and put away childish things shouldn't be depressing, it's supposed to be something to celebrate.MrGeezerIt's obvious you don't have kids. If you did, you'd see the sadness in that strip right away.
We have 3 kids. One of them is in high school. Watching him grow out of many of the things that he once enjoyed was very depressing... so much so, that I'm not looking forward to the inevitable day when the two younger ones also discard that childhood "magic."
"Celebrate?" More like "mourn." :|
It's obvious you don't have kids. If you did, you'd see the sadness in that strip right away.[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]It's funny and it may be indicative of a sort of loss of childhood innocence, but I fail to see how that's "depressing". That's the natural course of life, and it's one of the most fundamental steps on the path to actually becoming a GOOD person. We all find chilhood innocence charming and cute, but I don't know one single parent who doesn't want to live to see his/her child get married, graduate from college, get a successful career, and have kids. Seeing a child grow up and put away childish things shouldn't be depressing, it's supposed to be something to celebrate.OrkHammer007
We have 3 kids. One of them is in high school. Watching him grow out of many of the things that he once enjoyed was very depressing... so much so, that I'm not looking forward to the inevitable day when the two younger ones also discard that childhood "magic."
"Celebrate?" More like "mourn." :|
Again, YOU have obviously never been tied down to an ADULT who never grew up.
Yeah, I'm sure you wish that your kids could stay THE SAME AGE forever. But if they continue aging and don't MATURE, then you're in for a HELL of a lot of pain.
It's easy to say that you don't want your kids to grow up when you know that they ARE going to grow up. But imagine if they really DIDN'T ever grow up? It's one thing to have to support your kids when you're 40. But what if you have to support your kids when you're 50? What if your kids are entirely dependent on you when you're SIXTY? Or SEVENTY? or EIGHTY?
You're obviously going to die. Hopefully, you will die BEFORE your children. Before you die, wouldn't you LIKE some kind of assurance that your offspring have grown to the point where they DON'T need you? Wouldn't you like to know that your inevitable death isn't going to destroy their lives because you are no longer there to care for them? Do you have ANY idea what it is like to be stuck tied down to a GROWN MAN who is a drain on everyone around him simply because he keeps getting older but doesn't get any more MATURE? When most people have kids, they aren't bargaining on having to essentially take care of a child for the next SIXTY YEARS.
Again, YOU have obviously never been tied down to an ADULT who never grew up.I see where you're coming from, from two seperate perspectives:Yeah, I'm sure you wish that your kids could stay THE SAME AGE forever. But if they continue aging and don't MATURE, then you're in for a HELL of a lot of pain.
It's easy to say that you don't want your kids to grow up when you know that they ARE going to grow up. But imagine if they really DIDN'T ever grow up? It's one thing to have to support your kids when you're 40. But what if you have to support your kids when you're 50? What if your kids are entirely dependent on you when you're SIXTY? Or SEVENTY? or EIGHTY?
You're obviously going to die. Hopefully, you will die BEFORE your children. Before you die, wouldn't you LIKE some kind of assurance that your offspring have grown to the point where they DON'T need you? Wouldn't you like to know that your inevitable death isn't going to destroy their lives because you are no longer there to care for them? Do you have ANY idea what it is like to be stuck tied down to a GROWN MAN who is a drain on everyone around him simply because he keeps getting older but doesn't get any more MATURE? When most people have kids, they aren't bargaining on having to essentially take care of a child for the next SIXTY YEARS.
MrGeezer
1. My wife's brother is several years older than me, and still lives in my in-laws basement. He has no job, no transportation, and no motivation to change his situation because he's basically been givin everything. In that sense, it's the parents' fault for not shoving him out the door when they had the chance.
2. I have 2 brothers who are "special needs" and rely on those around them (one is wheelchair-bound and unable to take care of himself at all). In that sense, it's no one's fault, and just bad luck/will of God/*insert cliched platitude here.*
...neither of which assuages the melancholy of watching that child-like magic fade over time, to be replaced by teenaged angst, acne, and the feeling that they are distancing themselves from you because you're no longer "cool."
(****, I'm depressed now... :( )
Wow...[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Again, YOU have obviously never been tied down to an ADULT who never grew up.I see where you're coming from, from two seperate perspectives:Yeah, I'm sure you wish that your kids could stay THE SAME AGE forever. But if they continue aging and don't MATURE, then you're in for a HELL of a lot of pain.
It's easy to say that you don't want your kids to grow up when you know that they ARE going to grow up. But imagine if they really DIDN'T ever grow up? It's one thing to have to support your kids when you're 40. But what if you have to support your kids when you're 50? What if your kids are entirely dependent on you when you're SIXTY? Or SEVENTY? or EIGHTY?
You're obviously going to die. Hopefully, you will die BEFORE your children. Before you die, wouldn't you LIKE some kind of assurance that your offspring have grown to the point where they DON'T need you? Wouldn't you like to know that your inevitable death isn't going to destroy their lives because you are no longer there to care for them? Do you have ANY idea what it is like to be stuck tied down to a GROWN MAN who is a drain on everyone around him simply because he keeps getting older but doesn't get any more MATURE? When most people have kids, they aren't bargaining on having to essentially take care of a child for the next SIXTY YEARS.
OrkHammer007
1. My wife's brother is several years older than me, and still lives in my in-laws basement. He has no job, no transportation, and no motivation to change his situation because he's basically been givin everything. In that sense, it's the parents' fault for not shoving him out the door when they had the chance.
2. I have 2 brothers who are "special needs" and rely on those around them (one is wheelchair-bound and unable to take care of himself at all). In that sense, it's no one's fault, and just bad luck/will of God/*insert cliched platitude here.*
...neither of which assuages the melancholy of watching that child-like magic fade over time, to be replaced by teenaged angst, acne, and the feeling that they are distancing themselves from you because you're no longer "cool."
(****, I'm depressed now... :( )
It's simple, really. Just because there isn't another better alternative to seeing your children growing up does not mean it isn't sad.Please Log In to post.
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