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#1 oliviarose
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is it me or do these new artists just keep getting worse and worse?! my daughter had the music channels on the other day and i cannot believe some of the dribble that "artists" are coming out with. for example 'craig david ft big narstie- when the bassline drops'

the chorus is:

[Chorus: Craig David]

(Goin' out to all of my DJ's)

All on your (doot) yeah

(Sounds of the raving crew)

All on your (doot) yeah, all over your (doot)

All on your (doot) yeah

(Goin' out to all of my DJ's)

All on your (doot) yeah, all over your (doot)

All on your (doot) yeah

(Sounds of the raving crew)

i literally have no idea what this even means. is it just me that thinks todays music is mostly awful?!

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#2 LJS9502_basic
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Utter crap that the mainstream eats up. It's not that I've been anti top 40 because some decent songs used to chart. Now it's a vast wasteland of mediocre hooks sold by image to those too lazy to find good music elsewhere. Money is the motivation not the music itself.

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#3 oliviarose
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@LJS9502_basic: glad its not just me that thinks so! every now and again there is a half decent song released, but on the whole its just crap, that to me doesnt even make any sense! my daughter just told me its because im old! but i dont see how songs thats say lyrics such as ' tell my man shutup' can be considered good or tasteful!

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#4 mark1974
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I don't like it either. I've never really been a big fan of top forty or chart music.

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#5 uninspiredcup
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Heard that 7 years old the other day while walking the dog, annoyingly catchy.

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#6 thehig1
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I've never liked chart music apart from the odd catchy song.

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#7 deactivated-598fc45371265
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what's a doot?

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#8 LostProphetFLCL
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Chart music sucks and science says that pop music has been getting increasingly stale.

It's a shame. I used to love a lot of the chart music in the 90's. Rock had an actual presence back then it seemed. I could even enjoy modern radio through a bit of the 2000's but it seems to have gone to absolute shit since around 2010. Can't even listen to the local rock radio station that I used to love as they have nothing but absolute shit on there now.

It isn't like there is NO good popular music anymore, but it is damn sure hard to find now...

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#9 Solaryellow
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You see and hear many of these "artists" being pushed as the next best thing but in reality, years down the road you won't hear about them again and that's because talent is in short supply these days with music. Many of these artists are manufactured and we've seen what happens to performers who fit this bill from the last few decades.

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@LostProphetFLCL said:

It isn't like there is NO good popular music anymore, but it is damn sure hard to find now...

if it's hard to find doesn't that mean it isn't popular?

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@Solaryellow said:

You see and hear many of these "artists" being pushed as the next best thing but in reality, years down the road you won't hear about them again and that's because talent is in short supply these days with music. Many of these artists are manufactured and we've seen what happens to performers who fit this bill from the last few decades.

It isn't that talent is in short supply. It's that the people who are "manufacturing" artists have an incentive to promote those artists as "the next best thing" instead of promoting the artists who have talent.

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#14 TheHighWind
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I loved it when an Army guy asked Bruno Mars if he'd really catch a grenade.

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#16 TheHighWind
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@Iszdope said:

Who is Bruno Mars?

Oh sorry man welcome to 2010 you're right.

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#18  Edited By skipper847
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Don't like chart music as no one can sing. They have to use that robot voice to make there voice better. That's if there not lip syncing too.

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#19 Solaryellow
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@MrGeezer said:

It isn't that talent is in short supply. It's that the people who are "manufacturing" artists have an incentive to promote those artists as "the next best thing" instead of promoting the artists who have talent.

Then it goes w/o saying that talent IS in short supply when it comes to who is being pushed. Unfortunately my wife was watching that music awards show last night and I was in the same room so I could hear it and I really wish I didn't because god damn those "artists" were bad.

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#20 MrGeezer
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@Solaryellow said:
@MrGeezer said:

It isn't that talent is in short supply. It's that the people who are "manufacturing" artists have an incentive to promote those artists as "the next best thing" instead of promoting the artists who have talent.

Then it goes w/o saying that talent IS in short supply when it comes to who is being pushed. Unfortunately my wife was watching that music awards show last night and I was in the same room so I could hear it and I really wish I didn't because god damn those "artists" were bad.

That's fine, but that's not what you said. You said that "talent is in short supply with music." If you had just said what you really meant, I never would have bothered replying.

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#21 AFBrat77
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Back in the 1960's top 40 music was actually good

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#22 Solaryellow
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@MrGeezer said:

That's fine, but that's not what you said. You said that "talent is in short supply with music." If you had just said what you really meant, I never would have bothered replying.

Everything I said holds water though. Music (i.e. what is played on the waves, performed at televised musical shows, etc..,) is lacking. When I think of the word "music" I don't think of the garage band or wedding band that might be very talented but never to be heard by most people. I use the definition in the sense of the main stream.

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#23 with_teeth26
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I'm always curious about the people who actually enjoy this crap. When Spotify ads come on and play clips of top 40 songs I usually tear my headphones out its so bad

I don't know anyone who actually listens to this stuff but they must exist, and in great numbers.

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Ignore the text completely...

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#25 turtlethetaffer
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I don't listen regularly enough to know for sure, but I will say this: nine times out of ten, when I hear a top 40 song, it makes me want to vomit.

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#26 themajormayor
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Please don't call "that" music

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@Solaryellow said:
@MrGeezer said:

That's fine, but that's not what you said. You said that "talent is in short supply with music." If you had just said what you really meant, I never would have bothered replying.

Everything I said holds water though. Music (i.e. what is played on the waves, performed at televised musical shows, etc..,) is lacking. When I think of the word "music" I don't think of the garage band or wedding band that might be very talented but never to be heard by most people. I use the definition in the sense of the main stream.

Dude, there's a LOT of music out there that doesn't rank well (or at all) in the charts and isn't "manufactured" by some record label. For you to think that the only music that isn't "manufactured" is garage and wedding bands would be like me basing all movies on the highest grossing summer blockbusters like Avengers and Jurassic World. If anything, things are even better now. Decades ago, if you didn't make it onto the radio then no one heard your stuff. Now, with the internet and digital distribution and social media, there's a VASTLY increased opportunity for genuine and sincere artists to get way more exposure than they ever could have gotten even a few decades ago.

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#28  Edited By br0kenrabbit
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Pop music seems less melismatic and more simplistic these days. On the other end of the modern scale is the way overproduced stuff.

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#29 oliviarose
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@Solaryellow said:
@MrGeezer said:

It isn't that talent is in short supply. It's that the people who are "manufacturing" artists have an incentive to promote those artists as "the next best thing" instead of promoting the artists who have talent.

Then it goes w/o saying that talent IS in short supply when it comes to who is being pushed. Unfortunately my wife was watching that music awards show last night and I was in the same room so I could hear it and I really wish I didn't because god damn those "artists" were bad.

im sorry your wife put you through that! haha

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@MrGeezer said:

Dude, there's a LOT of music out there that doesn't rank well (or at all) in the charts and isn't "manufactured" by some record label. For you to think that the only music that isn't "manufactured" is garage and wedding bands would be like me basing all movies on the highest grossing summer blockbusters like Avengers and Jurassic World. If anything, things are even better now. Decades ago, if you didn't make it onto the radio then no one heard your stuff. Now, with the internet and digital distribution and social media, there's a VASTLY increased opportunity for genuine and sincere artists to get way more exposure than they ever could have gotten even a few decades ago.

You lost me when you thought using the word "dude" was intelligent.

The music of the 2010's will go down as crap since talent is not required to "make it' when all you need is a good make-up artist and an in-studio engineer who can make a little something out of nothing. No one is going to remember this decade (or even a few prior) for the music they don't get to hear. They remember it for what is exposed rather than what we think is out there.

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Since when is Craig David a new artist? He had his first #1 hit in the UK in 1999.

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@Solaryellow said:
@MrGeezer said:

Dude, there's a LOT of music out there that doesn't rank well (or at all) in the charts and isn't "manufactured" by some record label. For you to think that the only music that isn't "manufactured" is garage and wedding bands would be like me basing all movies on the highest grossing summer blockbusters like Avengers and Jurassic World. If anything, things are even better now. Decades ago, if you didn't make it onto the radio then no one heard your stuff. Now, with the internet and digital distribution and social media, there's a VASTLY increased opportunity for genuine and sincere artists to get way more exposure than they ever could have gotten even a few decades ago.

You lost me when you thought using the word "dude" was intelligent.

The music of the 2010's will go down as crap since talent is not required to "make it' when all you need is a good make-up artist and an in-studio engineer who can make a little something out of nothing. No one is going to remember this decade (or even a few prior) for the music they don't get to hear. They remember it for what is exposed rather than what we think is out there.

Do you realize that what you're proposing is completely unprecedented when it comes to pretty much ANY kind of art form whatsoever? Music is more accessible than it has ever been. It is easier than ever for people to make music. It is easier than ever for people to distribute music. It is easier than ever for aspiring musicians to study music and therefore learn from the greats. And yet, you're proposing that suddenly everyone on the planet suddenly stopped being able to make good music.

DUDE, that doesn't ever happen. Increased accessibility ALWAYS results in much of that art becoming better. And don't dare talk about what people "get" to hear. Again, accessibility to music is greater than it has EVER been. The only thing preventing you from "getting" to hear good music is YOU. Don't act like it's the industry's job to shove quality down your throat. If you just plain don't feel like looking for quality, that's your fault.

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#33  Edited By xdude85
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Who the hell listens or takes the Top 40 chart seriously?

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#34 PernicioEnigma
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Yeah, most of it is shit. Some of it is quite catchy though, so it appeals to me on that basic level.

@MrGeezer said:
@Solaryellow said:
@MrGeezer said:

Dude, there's a LOT of music out there that doesn't rank well (or at all) in the charts and isn't "manufactured" by some record label. For you to think that the only music that isn't "manufactured" is garage and wedding bands would be like me basing all movies on the highest grossing summer blockbusters like Avengers and Jurassic World. If anything, things are even better now. Decades ago, if you didn't make it onto the radio then no one heard your stuff. Now, with the internet and digital distribution and social media, there's a VASTLY increased opportunity for genuine and sincere artists to get way more exposure than they ever could have gotten even a few decades ago.

You lost me when you thought using the word "dude" was intelligent.

The music of the 2010's will go down as crap since talent is not required to "make it' when all you need is a good make-up artist and an in-studio engineer who can make a little something out of nothing. No one is going to remember this decade (or even a few prior) for the music they don't get to hear. They remember it for what is exposed rather than what we think is out there.

Do you realize that what you're proposing is completely unprecedented when it comes to pretty much ANY kind of art form whatsoever? Music is more accessible than it has ever been. It is easier than ever for people to make music. It is easier than ever for people to distribute music. It is easier than ever for aspiring musicians to study music and therefore learn from the greats. And yet, you're proposing that suddenly everyone on the planet suddenly stopped being able to make good music.

DUDE, that doesn't ever happen. Increased accessibility ALWAYS results in much of that art becoming better. And don't dare talk about what people "get" to hear. Again, accessibility to music is greater than it has EVER been. The only thing preventing you from "getting" to hear good music is YOU. Don't act like it's the industry's job to shove quality down your throat. If you just plain don't feel like looking for quality, that's your fault.

"Good" anything is always rare, otherwise it would just become average and there would be a new "good". It's true that making music is more accessible than ever, and that genuine talent is better able to get their music out there, the same is also true for all the no-talent morons. I'm sure there are more talented artist making music now than in any other point in history.

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@PernicioEnigma said:

"Good" anything is always rare, otherwise it would just become average and there would be a new "good". It's true that making music is more accessible than ever, and that genuine talent is better able to get their music out there, the same is also true for all the no-talent morons. I'm sure there are more talented artist making music now than in any other point in history.

Which is exactly the point. Accessibility means that both the good AND the bad artists get to release material and make it accessible. There's an increase in both good and bad music. This means more options for the consumer, which means that now it's the consumer's responsibility to actually find the stuff that they like. Sure, it's entirely possible that the most heavily promoted stuff sucks compared to the most heavily promoted stuff that was released decades ago. The difference is that before, for most people, the most heavily promoted stuff was all that they could get. Now that there are so many more options and so many good artists releasing content when a mere thirty years ago they couldn't get their stuff heard anywhere, it's simply absurd to act as if good music has died simply because the chart-toppers are worse now. If you think that the most heavily promoted stuff sucks, then find something else to listen to. It's not the consumer's job to buy whatever is getting the most exposure, and it's not the music industry's job to push quality onto everyone. You buy what you like, they release what sells. Which is EXACTLY how it should be. If you're concerned that the most popular stuff sucks, then stop complaining about how it's popular and start giving more attention to the alternative stuff that ISN'T so popular. However it goes, the options are out there and it's FAR more likely than ever that there's a hell of a lot of content out there for you. You might just have to dig a little bit to find it. Now, if you just plain don't WANT to sift through the garbage in order to find the good music, that's fine. But that's a matter of consumer disinterest, not a matter of there being any kind of lack of quality.

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#36 sukraj
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the last time I listened to the top 40 was back in the 1980's.

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#37  Edited By Employee427
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Absolute garbage. Just a bunch of wannabee ghettos trying to act edgy and assert their massive sexuality.

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#38 oliviarose
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@TheFlush said:

Since when is Craig David a new artist? He had his first #1 hit in the UK in 1999.

i know craig david isnt new but this 'big narstie' person is..

and it seems to be that older artists are doing songs with these new crappy artists..