Thoughts on suicide?

What do you think of suicide? Cowards way out? Do you think people who commit suicide go to heaven? There was this coffee guy who was awesome he ran his own coffee shop and I always tipped him. His coffee was the best in town, but then he offed himself :( It's a shame he seemed like such a nice guy.

I think it's terrible but people will be people.

I think it's terrible but people will be people.

Jolt_counter119

I don't agree with people who say that suicide is the cowards way out. Sometimes that is true of course (like 14 year olds with identity crisis), but not always. And of course they don't go to heaven; no one does, as it doesn't exist.

I am a supporter of assisted suicide as well. I find it completely confusing how people think that life, no matter how painful, humiliating and exhausting, is better than death. If I was diagnosed with a disease that entails a extremely painful death with no chance of survival, why would I spend 6 months (or whatever) in agony instead of just ending it?

I think it's both incredibly selfish, but also takes a lot of courage. As a person who has been plagued by suicidal thoughts a lot over the last five years, I can say it's very, very difficult to be around people when all you can think is "my life is terrible, and I want to off myself."Deihjan

I know what you mean. When I was 16 I was on anti-depressants and all I could think about was ending it. :(

I would walk across a bridge and look down at the rocks and the only thing that scared me was that I wasn't affraid to jump. :(

EDIT POST: but im all better now and off of them and everything is good :D

I think that people that want to die should be allowed to die.

It's selfish behavior to expect people to stick around to accomodate the rest of us.

Misleading title this will probably get locked. Anyway, I think it's a mix of cowardice and also of bravery. Some people have been through stuff I could probably never imagine, and if they end their lif because of it, who am I to say?Overlord93

How is it misleading we're having a discussion here why would it be locked?

To me, its the cowards way out, and the brave thing to do is to carry on living. If life is getting out of hand, hit the reset button and start again.

[QUOTE="Overlord93"]Misleading title this will probably get locked. Anyway, I think it's a mix of cowardice and also of bravery. Some people have been through stuff I could probably never imagine, and if they end their lif because of it, who am I to say?TheHighWind

How is it misleading we're having a discussion here why would it be locked?

It's sad that some people just feel so bad to the point where they think ending there life would bring more happiness than trying to actually be more happy in life.

[QUOTE="Overlord93"]Misleading title this will probably get locked. Anyway, I think it's a mix of cowardice and also of bravery. Some people have been through stuff I could probably never imagine, and if they end their lif because of it, who am I to say?TheHighWind

How is it misleading we're having a discussion here why would it be locked?

I try to stay optimistic but clicking this thread I was bracing myself for a mountain of gay porn.

To me, its the cowards way out, and the brave thing to do is to carry on living. If life is getting out of hand, hit the reset button and start again.

KABOOOM3

i think assisted suicide because of some deadly disease or illness is okay,

But as for whiney teens thinking of committing suicide i just find it completely cowardly, i dont care what the reason they have their whole life ahead of them which is something other people do not have, their are teens out there who grow up in nice familys where they have a nice roof over their head and regular meals then there are ones in Africa or other 3rd world countries who would be lucky to have a roof over their head maybe once a year and they find the strength to keep going and not give up.

I've had my fair share of troubles as i was growing up and i know for sure it was worse than other people i have known that have attempted suicide and it just makes me angry.

If some1 is going to commit suicide atleast just hang yourself so that your organs can be donated some1 who really needs them and is hanging on to life no matter how bad it is.

[QUOTE="Overlord93"]Misleading title this will probably get locked. Anyway, I think it's a mix of cowardice and also of bravery. Some people have been through stuff I could probably never imagine, and if they end their lif because of it, who am I to say?TheHighWind

How is it misleading we're having a discussion here why would it be locked?

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[QUOTE="Overlord93"]Misleading title this will probably get locked. Anyway, I think it's a mix of cowardice and also of bravery. Some people have been through stuff I could probably never imagine, and if they end their lif because of it, who am I to say?Jolt_counter119

How is it misleading we're having a discussion here why would it be locked?

I try to stay optimistic but clicking this thread I was bracing myself for a mountain of gay porn.

You people are nuts. I'm straight by the way, why would I post gay porn? I don't want to get banned!!

[QUOTE="KABOOOM3"]

To me, its the cowards way out, and the brave thing to do is to carry on living. If life is getting out of hand, hit the reset button and start again.

horgen123

Change your diet. Change your job. Change the way you live. Move somewhere you've never been before. The majority of problems in life can't grow legs and chase you. Do what you think starting again is...

I think most people that commit suicide are not in their right state of mind. They're obviously depressed and to label them as cowards seems a little unfair. They arent thinking rationally.

[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="KABOOOM3"]

To me, its the cowards way out, and the brave thing to do is to carry on living. If life is getting out of hand, hit the reset button and start again.

KABOOOM3

Change your diet. Change your job. Change the way you live. Move somewhere you've never been before. The majority of problems in life can't grow legs and chase you. Do what you think starting again is...

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. SilverSignal

I think it's a complex issue with no simple answer....

It's a permanent solution for a temporary problem. Some people just get overwhelmed, though.22Toothpicks

It's not always temporary, like this guy who offed himself because he went through vietnam and couldn't handle his nightmares.

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. SilverSignal

[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"]It's a permanent solution for a temporary problem. Some people just get overwhelmed, though.TheHighWind

It's not always temporary, like that guy who offed himself because he went through vietnam and couldn't handle his nightmares.

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. SilverSignal

People can do whatever they want to their own life...if that means ending it then so be it. [QUOTE="SilverSignal"]Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. MushroomWig

[QUOTE="Overlord93"]Misleading title this will probably get locked. Anyway, I think it's a mix of cowardice and also of bravery. Some people have been through stuff I could probably never imagine, and if they end their lif because of it, who am I to say?TheHighWind

How is it misleading we're having a discussion here why would it be locked?

I just edited the title hope you understand it has a slight misleading ring to it, the discussion is ok, carry on.

Anyway on topic:

While some might say it's the cowards way out I think people need a lot of courage to actually commit it. Can't say I haven't thought of that myself but I feel bad for people that do it, because there must've been something bad enough that made them want to take their own lives. Relgiously speaking, there's always something I've wondered, why is suicide=hell. I mean, take a good person, that helps others, is a good friend, good neighbor good parent and he commits suicide, he has the same fate as robbers and murderers?? Doesn't seem fair, at least to me.

[QUOTE="KABOOOM3"]

[QUOTE="horgen123"] Exactly how do you "reset" in life? horgen123

Change your diet. Change your job. Change the way you live. Move somewhere you've never been before. The majority of problems in life can't grow legs and chase you. Do what you think starting again is...

Then fight it... You shouldn't let things get in the way of your life, its too short for that.

All of the junk people say about suicide is just a smalleffort to keep people from committing suicide. Because someone might actually go "Suicide for cowards? Wells I'll show them who the realfool isby NOT committing suicide."

Sometimes you just don't want to live anymore. There's nothing to look forward to. Some peopleneed a realpurpose so theycan't simplytake theirminds off of the lingeringany longer by watching television, movies, surfing the net and playing video games. Who really has a purpose? Everybody does something, but is there apoint?

It's just easier not to bring it up and not think about it, because suicide suggests life is logical. Since we linger and the greedy destroy whatever interfers with their greed suicide seems like a good option. So don't think about it.

I sleep next to a Beretta. I've considered shooting myself with it several times in the past. But you know what kept me going? Curiousity. If I'm dead I won't be able to see what happens next. But guess what happens when you take the fortune away from a soldier of fortune. It's a death sentence. Someone wholived for adventure needs the adventure to live. If we don't live we just exist. Nobody wants to exist.

Suicide is wrong. Those are my thoughts.

I think most people that commit suicide are not in their right state of mind. They're obviously depressed and to label them as cowards seems a little unfair. They arent thinking rationally.

sonicare

Agreed.

I think most people that commit suicide are not in their right state of mind. They're obviously depressed and to label them as cowards seems a little unfair. They arent thinking rationally.

sonicare

That's it really. I think people try and implant their own way of thinking/perspective of the world and draw the conclusion it's selfish. From the perspective of the suicidee, who may well view him/herself a burden upon the world and those around them then it becomes something a little different. Irrational it may well be, but if in your mind you think the world would be a better place if you were no longer there, then the drive is not a selfish one.

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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]People can do whatever they want to their own life...if that means ending it then so be it. [QUOTE="SilverSignal"]Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. sonicare

Personally, I think it depends on how bad/fatal the illness is. If someone has an illness that makes death in the near future certain and will be in excruciating pain, I think that person should be allowed to end their life so that they don't have to endure the pain.

But, if there's a chance of survival, I absolutely agree that a doctor shouldn't assist someone to take their own life.

Then fight it... You shouldn't let things get in the way of your life, its too short for that.

KABOOOM3

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="MushroomWig"] Not all problems in life are temporary. Sure some people do kill themselves over temporary problems but there are plenty of other reasons why people would choose to kill themselves.GreySeal9

Personally, I think it depends on how bad/fatal the illness is. If someone has an illness that makes death in the near future certain and will be in excruciating pain, I think that person should be allowed to end their life so that they don't have to endure the pain.

But, if there's a chance of survival, I absolutely agree that a doctor shouldn't assist someone to take their own life.

There was a great documentary on this with Terry Gilliam here – not sure if you've seen it but it's pretty powerful/thought provoking stuff. Guaranteed to be pretty speechless at 'the end'

Suicide is only excusable when you're going to die of an inevitably painful death and there is absolutely nothing able to be done about it and the time is coming really, really, near and you really don't have anyone supporting you.

Other than that, if you committed suicide you likely had a mental issue of some sort.

It's kind of a topic that stresses me out because It's constantly on my mind when I go somewhere...yet I don't have the courage to do it which frustrates me and you get caught in this cycle; It's certainly not 'the coward's way out'.

It's weird too because I have a perfectly good quality of life; I just don't feel good. I'm sure there are others who can relate to this.

Btw sorry about being morose guys :P

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[QUOTE="sonicare"] The trouble is that people often make those decision when they are not well. A cancer patient may decide to commit suicide because they are depressed with their diagnosis, in pain, or feeling helpless. But things change and can often improve. That's why I am not for assisted suicide. I think doctors should do everything in their people to make people comfortable, but I dont think they should aid them in killing themselves.poptart

Personally, I think it depends on how bad/fatal the illness is. If someone has an illness that makes death in the near future certain and will be in excruciating pain, I think that person should be allowed to end their life so that they don't have to endure the pain.

But, if there's a chance of survival, I absolutely agree that a doctor shouldn't assist someone to take their own life.

There was a great documentary on this with Terry Gilliam here – not sure if you've seen it but it's pretty powerful/thought provoking stuff. Guaranteed to be pretty speechless at 'the end'

Will watch a bit later. Sounds interesting.

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Personally, I think it depends on how bad/fatal the illness is. If someone has an illness that makes death in the near future certain and will be in excruciating pain, I think that person should be allowed to end their life so that they don't have to endure the pain.

But, if there's a chance of survival, I absolutely agree that a doctor shouldn't assist someone to take their own life.

GreySeal9

There was a great documentary on this with Terry Gilliam here – not sure if you've seen it but it's pretty powerful/thought provoking stuff. Guaranteed to be pretty speechless at 'the end'

Will watch a bit later. Sounds interesting.

Oh it is - extremely. Very moving stuff though - it's not easy at times...

Your condition is still not bad enough for us to help you. Come back in a few weeks when it is worse. horgen123

[QUOTE="KABOOOM3"]

Then fight it... You shouldn't let things get in the way of your life, its too short for that.

horgen123

I may not have had an experience with someone commiting suicide, but i did know someone with anorexia, she got over it, she fought it and won now i know that not everyone is the same, but i am a great believer in if one person could it, whats stopping other people from doing it.

But that policy was rotten, i've only heard of crap like that in the news paper.