Three women accuse Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

The reason this is an issue is because he is a Republican, period, there is nothing, nothing about his skin color that plays into this. If it was Perry or Romney the same amount of scrutiny would be put on them as is being put on Cain. How his race is an issue is beyond me. Weiner wasn't black, yet Republicans were all over him for doing something that wasn't even illegal...why? Because he was Jewish? No. Because he was white? No. Why was Clinton impeached and targeted for what he did? Because he was white? No...in both cases it is because they were Democrats and the right used what they did against them. It is politics. Cain is a Republican running for President, OBVIOUSLY Democrats are going to use something like this versus any candidate to hurt them to protect there own party. It sickens me that any Republican would say it is a race issue even though they have used the same sorts of scandals vs. Democrats of any color. It is even more ridiculous that they use the race card even though they complained about the same thing being used when Obama was running.

SaintLeonidas

Yet we consistently see with prominent black conservatives an almost rabid obsession from liberals. Clarence Thomas, for instance. I already pointed out the two hispanic conservatives that were ruined by the liberal mob. I disagree with you. I believe race plays a major issue when it comes to how conservatives are treated.

If there was any substance to these claims against Cain I could chalk it off to him being a Republican, but since there isn't any, only one logical explanation remains: The fact that he's black is the only reason liberals are going after him over this "issue".

Also, the race card was, and still is, being played by Obama supporters. It's not ridiculous to point out double-standards in this country.

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

The reason this is an issue is because he is a Republican, period, there is nothing, nothing about his skin color that plays into this. If it was Perry or Romney the same amount of scrutiny would be put on them as is being put on Cain. How his race is an issue is beyond me. Weiner wasn't black, yet Republicans were all over him for doing something that wasn't even illegal...why? Because he was Jewish? No. Because he was white? No. Why was Clinton impeached and targeted for what he did? Because he was white? No...in both cases it is because they were Democrats and the right used what they did against them. It is politics. Cain is a Republican running for President, OBVIOUSLY Democrats are going to use something like this versus any candidate to hurt them to protect there own party. It sickens me that any Republican would say it is a race issue even though they have used the same sorts of scandals vs. Democrats of any color. It is even more ridiculous that they use the race card even though they complained about the same thing being used when Obama was running.

airshocker

Yet we consistently see with prominent black conservatives an almost rabid obsession from liberals. Clarence Thomas, for instance. I already pointed out the two hispanic conservatives that were ruined by the liberal mob. I disagree with you. I believe race plays a major issue when it comes to how conservatives are treated.

If there was any substance to these claims against Cain I could chalk it off to him being a Republican, but since there isn't any, only one logical explanation remains: The fact that he's black is the only reason liberals are going after him over this "issue".

Also, the race card was, and still is, being played by Obama supporters. It's not ridiculous to point out double-standards in this country.

Anyone who believes this is delusional or blinded by their own political beliefs and would have to be completely clueless as to how these sorts of scandals play out, when they play out and why they play out for any side, race or political party, especially during elections. Even if liberals knew it was most likely not true they would still bring it up against any Republican running for President, no matter their race, to hurt there chances. But seeing how the situation is incredibly suspicious (shutting one ofthe alleged victims up with a years salary in severance pay and a confidentiality agreement, and Cain claiming to not know about it only to turn around and say he did know) makes it even more potent for Democrats, and again would use it against any of the candidates if it surfaced for one of them even if they thought it would turn out to be untrue.

Anyone who believes this is delusional or blinded by their own political beliefs and would have to be completely clueless as to how these sorts of scandals play out, when they play out and why they play out for any side, race or political party, especially during elections. Even if liberals knew it was most likely not true they would still bring it up against any Republican running for President, no matter their race, to hurt there chances. But seeing how the situation is incredibly suspicious (shutting one ofthe alleged victims up with a years salary in severance pay and a confidentiality agreement, and Cain claiming to not know about it only to turn around and say he did know) makes it even more potent for Democrats, and again would use it against any of the candidates if it surfaced for one of them even if they thought it would turn out to be untrue.

SaintLeonidas

:lol: A liberal calling someone delusional when they point out the double-standards in the media. Priceless!

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

Anyone who believes this is delusional or blinded by their own political beliefs and would have to be completely clueless as to how these sorts of scandals play out, when they play out and why they play out for any side, race or political party, especially during elections. Even if liberals knew it was most likely not true they would still bring it up against any Republican running for President, no matter their race, to hurt there chances. But seeing how the situation is incredibly suspicious (shutting one ofthe alleged victims up with a years salary in severance pay and a confidentiality agreement, and Cain claiming to not know about it only to turn around and say he did know) makes it even more potent for Democrats, and again would use it against any of the candidates if it surfaced for one of them even if they thought it would turn out to be untrue.

airshocker

:lol: A liberal calling someone delusional when they point out the double-standards in the media. Priceless!

The only thing funnier is you thinking I'm supporting liberals or the use of the race card or pointing out any double standards. I obviously, seeing how I mentioned both sides use the race card, understand the double standard. But none of that matters. I'm talking about you claiming race is the only reason this is an issue. Which is completely false. Harassment/sexual scandals are used against Republicans and Liberals of any race all the time. Race has never been an issue until now, and of course it is Republicans making the claims that it is because he is black, which makes them delusional or blinded by their own beliefs because nothing about this situation would be different if it was directed towards Romney or Perry, just like how Weiner or Clinton weren't black yet these sorts of issues were used against them.

yeah like republicans will ever vote for an African American, i could just imagine those racist stooges like sean hannity and rush limbaugh having to rally support for a black guy. lmfao it would make my day.

lostfan132

Umm....Republicans arn't racist :?

There are definately racists in the republican party (they exist in the democrat party aswell), but as a whole it isn't racist it'self. And conservatives (not republicans) arn't racist either. Sure there are a small few out there like who are racist (I think Limbaugh is a bigot honestly) but most are not.

That was a pretty big generalisationyou just made.....

[QUOTE="lostfan132"]

yeah like republicans will ever vote for an African American, i could just imagine those racist stooges like sean hannity and rush limbaugh having to rally support for a black guy. lmfao it would make my day.

ShadowMoses900

Umm....Republicans arn't racist :?

There are definately racists in the republican party (they exist in the democrat party aswell), but as a whole it isn't racist it'self. And conservatives (not republicans) arn't racist either. Sure there are a small few out there like who are racist (I think Limbaugh is a bigot honestly) but most are not.

That was a pretty big generalisationyou just made.....

Greyseal, update your OP - now it's three women - here's the link. third woman.topsemag55

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="lostfan132"]

yeah like republicans will ever vote for an African American, i could just imagine those racist stooges like sean hannity and rush limbaugh having to rally support for a black guy. lmfao it would make my day.

topsemag55

Umm....Republicans arn't racist :?

There are definately racists in the republican party (they exist in the democrat party aswell), but as a whole it isn't racist it'self. And conservatives (not republicans) arn't racist either. Sure there are a small few out there like who are racist (I think Limbaugh is a bigot honestly) but most are not.

That was a pretty big generalisationyou just made.....

Cain's a genius at business, but has a plan that would severely hurt business?Serraph105

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]Cain's a genius at business, but has a plan that would severely hurt business?topsemag55

[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="Serraph105"]Cain's a genius at business, but has a plan that would severely hurt business?Serraph105

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]Cain's a genius at business, but has a plan that would severely hurt business?topsemag55

Thing is though, assuming that the overall amount of taxation is the same, the cost of goods would be greater, but the amount of goods one could afford to buy would be the same due to a reduction in income tax. In other words, income by purchasing power remains the same. Of course, it is a bit flatter than the current income tax and people who are more likely to spend rather than invest are worse off.

[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="Serraph105"]Cain's a genius at business, but has a plan that would severely hurt business?coolbeans90

Thing is though, assuming that the overall amount of taxation is the same, the cost of goods would be greater, but the amount of goods one could afford to buy would be the same due to a reduction in income tax. In other words, income by purchasing power remains the same. Of course, it is a bit flatter than the current income tax.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="topsemag55"] Wouldn't you lessen your spending a little if you had to pay 9% more in sales tax when your income is still the same? I would, I don't see too many bosses giving a 9% raise to make up for it.:Ptopsemag55

Thing is though, assuming that the overall amount of taxation is the same, the cost of goods would be greater, but the amount of goods one could afford to buy would be the same due to a reduction in income tax. In other words, income by purchasing power remains the same. Of course, it is a bit flatter than the current income tax.

Will give a read. I honestly don't know what to make of the whole harassment allegations thing.

[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Thing is though, assuming that the overall amount of taxation is the same, the cost of goods would be greater, but the amount of goods one could afford to buy would be the same due to a reduction in income tax. In other words, income by purchasing power remains the same. Of course, it is a bit flatter than the current income tax.

coolbeans90

Will give a read. I honestly don't know what to make of the whole harassment allegations thing.

Yeah. Beans, take a look a few posts up - I gave GreySeal a link, AP just posted an exclusive, now there's a third woman making a claim on Cain.topsemag55

Will give a read. I honestly don't know what to make of the whole harassment allegations thing.

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

The reason this is an issue is because he is a Republican, period, there is nothing, nothing about his skin color that plays into this. If it was Perry or Romney the same amount of scrutiny would be put on them as is being put on Cain. How his race is an issue is beyond me. Weiner wasn't black, yet Republicans were all over him for doing something that wasn't even illegal...why? Because he was Jewish? No. Because he was white? No. Why was Clinton impeached and targeted for what he did? Because he was white? No...in both cases it is because they were Democrats and the right used what they did against them. It is politics. Cain is a Republican running for President, OBVIOUSLY Democrats are going to use something like this versus any candidate to hurt them to protect there own party. It sickens me that any Republican would say it is a race issue even though they have used the same sorts of scandals vs. Democrats of any color. It is even more ridiculous that they use the race card even though they complained about the same thing being used when Obama was running.

airshocker

Yet we consistently see with prominent black conservatives an almost rabid obsession from liberals. Clarence Thomas, for instance. I already pointed out the two hispanic conservatives that were ruined by the liberal mob. I disagree with you. I believe race plays a major issue when it comes to how conservatives are treated.

If there was any substance to these claims against Cain I could chalk it off to him being a Republican, but since there isn't any, only one logical explanation remains: The fact that he's black is the only reason liberals are going after him over this "issue".

Also, the race card was, and still is, being played by Obama supporters. It's not ridiculous to point out double-standards in this country.

You have no idea if there's any substance behind these allegations or not (they could be true, after all), and you have not one shred of evidence that race is a factor.

Seriously. I don't want to ever hear conservatives complain about the race card ever again.

Greyseal, update your OP - now it's three women - here's the link. third woman.topsemag55

Thanks. :)

Will update.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

There's no evidence of any race issue on the left, thus he's playing the race card.

airshocker

There's no evidence of race being an issue on the right, yet Republicans are routinely called racists. I'm talking about in regards to Obama, by the way.

Fair is fair.

I don't deny that some liberals play the hell out of the race card. It doesn't justify the race card playing on the right tho.

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] So it's OK to play the race card if you admit, even as you do it, that it's just your own load of ****? That seems worse somehow...topsemag55

I disagree. I think there are major raceaholics on both sides.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

There's no evidence of any race issue on the left, thus he's playing the race card.

GreySeal9

There's no evidence of race being an issue on the right, yet Republicans are routinely called racists. I'm talking about in regards to Obama, by the way.

Fair is fair.

I don't deny that some liberals play the hell out of the race card. It doesn't justify the race card playing on the right tho.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

There's no evidence of race being an issue on the right, yet Republicans are routinely called racists. I'm talking about in regards to Obama, by the way.

Fair is fair.

I don't deny that some liberals play the hell out of the race card. It doesn't justify the race card playing on the right tho.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="topsemag55"] Yeah. Beans, take a look a few posts up - I gave GreySeal a link, AP just posted an exclusive, now there's a third woman making a claim on Cain.topsemag55

Will give a read. I honestly don't know what to make of the whole harassment allegations thing.

I think at this point, Cain should refrain from accusing other campaigns. Doing that makes him look pretty bad.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

There's no evidence of any race issue on the left, thus he's playing the race card.

GreySeal9

There's no evidence of race being an issue on the right, yet Republicans are routinely called racists. I'm talking about in regards to Obama, by the way.

Fair is fair.

I don't deny that some liberals play the hell out of the race card. It doesn't justify the race card playing on the right tho.

My thoughts as well. But that won't ever stop anyone from playing it if they get the chance.

This is getting ridiculous.

Cain team is blaming Perry for the accusations.

This is getting ridiculous.

Cain team is blaming Perry for the accusations.

DroidPhysX

And some of Perry's peeps are punting to Romney. (assuming this is accurate)

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20129304-503544/perry-camp-denies-leaking-explosive-cain-story

[QUOTE="topsemag55"]Greyseal, update your OP - now it's three women - here's the link. third woman.GreySeal9

Thanks. :)

Will update.

I've come to the conclusion that this Romney guy is one step closer to clinching this whole primary thing.

I've come to the conclusion that this Romney guy is one step closer to clinching this whole primary thing.

coolbeans90

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I've come to the conclusion that this Romney guy is one step closer to clinching this whole primary thing.

topsemag55

Thing is, no one else can beat him in the primary. Yes, he has some base enthusiasm issues. He'll need a VP to help with that.

[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I've come to the conclusion that this Romney guy is one step closer to clinching this whole primary thing.

Thing is, no one else can beat him in the primary. Yes, he has some base enthusiasm issues. He'll need a VP to help with that.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="topsemag55"] You may very well be correct, but Republicans worry that he'll lean too much to the left on issues, that's what's hurting him with conservatives.Frame_Dragger

Thing is, no one else can beat him in the primary. Yes, he has some base enthusiasm issues. He'll need a VP to help with that.

He's a politician. He'll pretend to thank Barack Obama for the time of his life during the campaign and congratulate him for stealing his dreams. Then he will write books and give speeches. That's pretty much all retired politicans can do. Alternatively, Romney wins.

[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I've come to the conclusion that this Romney guy is one step closer to clinching this whole primary thing.

coolbeans90

Thing is, no one else can beat him in the primary. Yes, he has some base enthusiasm issues. He'll need a VP to help with that.

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Thing is, no one else can beat him in the primary. Yes, he has some base enthusiasm issues. He'll need a VP to help with that.

He's a politician. He'll pretend to thank Barack Obama for the time of his life during the campaign and congratulate him for stealing his dreams. Then he will write books and give speeches. That's pretty much all retired politicans can do. Alternatively, Romney wins.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="topsemag55"] You may very well be correct, but Republicans worry that he'll lean too much to the left on issues, that's what's hurting him with conservatives.topsemag55

Thing is, no one else can beat him in the primary. Yes, he has some base enthusiasm issues. He'll need a VP to help with that.

We were talking about elections.

In office - he'd do everything with reelection in mind, meaning he'd govern like he's not in Kansas (Massachusetts) anymore. He's flipped the two previous conflicts he had with the party platform.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] He will run, and when he loses historically to Obama the look on his face will be priceless.Frame_Dragger

He's a politician. He'll pretend to thank Barack Obama for the time of his life during the campaign and congratulate him for stealing his dreams. Then he will write books and give speeches. That's pretty much all retired politicans can do. Alternatively, Romney wins.

Perhaps. Thing is, the polls would probably give him a heads up on the expected outcome. Granted, this is probably going to be a close one.

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

He's a politician. He'll pretend to thank Barack Obama for the time of his life during the campaign and congratulate him for stealing his dreams. Then he will write books and give speeches. That's pretty much all retired politicans can do. Alternatively, Romney wins.

Perhaps. Thing is, the polls would probably give him a heads up on the expected outcome. Granted, this is probably going to be a close one.

Obama has the west coast in the bag.topsemag55

It is lost forever, methinks.

[QUOTE="topsemag55"]Obama has the west coast in the bag.coolbeans90

It is lost forever, methinks.

Romney could very well take some of the swing states - he'll have to take Florida and Ohio to have any hopes of winning. I think he has NH locked up. Obama has the west coast in the bag.topsemag55

Romney could very well take some of the swing states - he'll have to take Florida and Ohio to have any hopes of winning. I think he has NH locked up. Obama has the west coast in the bag.topsemag55

Romney might have difficulty winning Ohio because of his positions on the union-busting measure, which is now hugely unpopular in the state.

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

...right, yes, because when Obama was running there weren't racist comments made by Republican voters including signs, pictures, etc....yes, that never happened.

airshocker

You're talking about a small minority of the right, as I am with the left.

It's clear that the left fears their monopoly on black voters diminishing when black Republican candidates come out. Hell, it's not even just the black vote, It's minority vote in general. Just take a look at what happened with Miguel Estrada and Alberto Gonzales.

The fact of the matter is that there is absolutely no proof that Herman Cain did anything wrong, yet this is an issue? The one woman didn't even RECEIVE a settlement, she got severance pay. I find it hilarious. If Herman Cain was a Democrat and the right went after him like this, they'd be called racists immediately.

It is coming out that the sum she got was too much to be simply severance pay. I think she got $45,000.

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