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#1 battlefront23
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Why do you not believe in God?
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#2 DeeJayInphinity
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Not enough evidence, so I default to disbelief.
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#3 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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Not enough evidence...
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#4 LAZZOR
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Not enough evidence and beliving something a book tells you seems plain idiotic. I mean by that logic Harry Potter is a real person, unicorns exist, and Chuck Norris really can shoot down a German fighter plane just by pointing to it and shouting "bang!".
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#5 a55assin
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Not enough evidence and beliving something a book tells you seems plain idiotic. I mean by that logic Harry Potter is a real person, unicorns exist, and Chuck Norris really can shoot down a German fighter plane just by pointing to it and shouting "bang!".LAZZOR

But he can!

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#6 JML897
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You made this thread like a week ago. Same exact thing, almost. And it's not like you had a shortage of replies, because I remember it being a pretty active thread.

And after a week, my answer stays the same. Not enough evidence.

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Not enough evidence to support His existence....
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#8 tzar3
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I dont believe in ancient fairy tales.
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#9 Wilfred_Owen
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Not that I don't believe, but quite frankly, I don't give a damn.
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#10 battlefront23
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You made this thread like a week ago. Same exact thing, almost. And it's not like you had a shortage of replies, because I remember it being a pretty active thread.

And after a week, my answer stays the same. Not enough evidence.

JML897

my bad :P

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#11 Video_Game_King
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Because many aspects lead the idea of gods into impossibility.
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#12 194197844077667059316682358889
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What initially destroyed my faith as a child was a vague variation of the problem of evil. I essentially felt like a God who said "Worship Me or go to hell for all time" was at best a bully and not deserving of my devotion.
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#13 Mr47fitter
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Its not worth my time...
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#14 LAZZOR
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Its not worth my time...Mr47fitter

Apathy FTW!

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#15 GnarWars
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i dont beleive in fairy tales
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#16 killer_is_me
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not realistic to me
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#17 Mr47fitter
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[QUOTE="Mr47fitter"]Its not worth my time...LAZZOR

Apathy FTW!

well I meant the thread but what you thought is not too far either...

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#18 ChicaQueenWarGa
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Because I am living right now...Why do I need to waste my time trying to get into the afterlife where there is no evidence of it...Going to church and saying your sins will not do anything, but waste your time...
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What initially destroyed my faith as a child was a vague variation of the problem of evil. I essentially felt like a God who said "Worship Me or go to hell for all time" was at best a bully and not deserving of my devotion.xaos

I couldn't have said it any better. That is what initially made me really start to wonder. Anything or anyone that tells me i have to believe in something or else i will be damned to eternal hell, doesn't get my respect.

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#20 MindFreeze
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Because the scientific theories make more sense to me than god/s. Plus it's all about faith, no proof.

Nah just kidding, I ofcourse meant to say the devil corrupted my mind.

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#21 death_bagel
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Just throwing this out their, if there was a big bang that created the world then what caused the big bang? I don't know if atheists believe the same theory as scientologists but thats something to think about :D.

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#22 battlefront23
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Just throwing this out their, if there was a big bang that created the world then what caused the big bang? I don't know if atheists believe the same theory as scientologists but thats something to think about :D.

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well what are you? And a good point indeed...

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#23 MindFreeze
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Just throwing this out their, if there was a big bang that created the world then what caused the big bang? I don't know if atheists believe the same theory as scientologists but thats something to think about :D.

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Read up on the theory a little more and you'll realize your question doesn't make much sense.

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#24 194197844077667059316682358889
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Just throwing this out their, if there was a big bang that created the world then what caused the big bang? I don't know if atheists believe the same theory as scientologists but thats something to think about :D.

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This is far from the subject of this thread but the theory is that our universe is a vacuum fluctuation (an observed phenomenon verified to exist) which underwent inflation due to negative energy pressure (a theoretically consistent but not observed phenomenon). This model accounts for a number of features regarding the consistency of the cosmic microwave background and the large scale distribution of matter of the universe, though it's unclear how it can ever be definitively verified.
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#25 Cerussite
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I just don't care, honestly.

As far as I'm concerned, belief in God is just another thing to worry about. If I don't believe in God, I don't have to worry about salvation, and I'm stress free (well, not quite).

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#26 Komodog
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what an original thread :roll:
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#27 battlefront23
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what an original thread :roll:Komodog

Why'd you post in it then? :roll:

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#28 Oborozukiyo
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Why'd you post in it then? :roll:

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He fell for the trap you had set, you could have had a better response than that.
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#29 GnarWars
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what an original thread :roll:Komodog

what an original post :roll:

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#30 battlefront23
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Why'd you post in it then? :roll:

Oborozukiyo

He fell for the trap you had set, you could have had a better response than that.

How was it a trap... I've posted in other threads and I'm very Christian... they knew what they were getting into...

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#31 Video_Game_King
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What initially destroyed my faith as a child was a vague variation of the problem of evil. I essentially felt like a God who said "Worship Me or go to hell for all time" was at best a bully and not deserving of my devotion.xaos

I remember that too! My mom said that it was a consequence of not worshipping him and not the action of the god, to which I replied "But isn't he all powerful? Wouldn't that mean he could choose whether or not we go to our eternal pain?"

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#32 Komodog
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religion threads are serious business amirite?
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#33 Komodog
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on a more "to the point" topic, we have 5 threads about religion on one page. Do we really need another one?
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#34 ReapX
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It's because I don't care about God and don't feel the need to believe in something that might not be true.
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What initially destroyed my faith as a child was a vague variation of the problem of evil. I essentially felt like a God who said "Worship Me or go to hell for all time" was at best a bully and not deserving of my devotion.xaos

same here

if he's perfect, why is he so vane? And if he loves all of us from day one, how could he allow more the half the worlds population to burn in hell for simply growing up non-Christian. I wouldnt have had a problem if the whole hell thing was only temporary. like if you kill someone you get 100 years to think about what you did....while burning

but no. its ETERNITY. damn near nothing anyone can possibly do is worth an ETERNITY of suffering

the more i thought about it the more i just realized that the whole hell thing was just a sales pitch to scare people into believing.

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#36 jayers228
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faith and that just never stuck with me i would need some evidence in order to believe in such fairly tales and the scientific of how we came to be just has way more evidence than religion.

I dont need to blindly believe in such things, and i have not had any curses or benifits from it...

lol the george carlin bit on religion is great (start worshiping the sun :lol: )

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#37 Oborozukiyo
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How was it a trap... I've posted in other threads and I'm very Christian... they knew what they were getting into...battlefront23
I just mean what do you do with a thread like this, the only real way you can start any kind of ongoing discussion is by trolling which is probably unintentional and most likely it'll just go on to some other subject that doesn't have to do with what was started.
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#38 Blood-Scribe
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I'm not technically an atheist, but I tend to lean towards it due to the use of scrutiny and reason. I don't see any reason to believe or disbelieve, as I hold no beliefs in anything, as doing so implies that there is an answer to something that truly cannot be answered, hence I abstain from beliefs of any sort. It's all a matter of what's more probable to me.
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#39 markop2003
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not enough evidence, if i did believe i'ld have to do all the worshiping and such and i just can't be bothered
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#40 Blood-Scribe
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Just throwing this out their, if there was a big bang that created the world then what caused the big bang? I don't know if atheists believe the same theory as scientologists but thats something to think about :D.

death_bagel

Yeah, like we haven't seen that question here before at least a few doezen times in the last couple of months...

Seriously, that question gets thrown around and people expect an answer, but the truth is, there is no answer, not for either side of God or Big Bang, or what have you. So why do people still bother asking it if a bunch of guys on an internet board don't know for sure? It gets annoying after awhile.

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#41 MichaeltheCM
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i do believe in God :)
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#42 fat_rob
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saying there is not enough evidence is stupid...there isn't enough evidence to disprove the existence of god either...I am not an atheist...I believe there is a god, but I don't think that god cares about us...
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#43 194197844077667059316682358889
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saying there is not enough evidence is stupid...there isn't enough evidence to disprove the existence of god either...I am not an atheist...I believe there is a god, but I don't think that god cares about us...fat_rob
That's an odd claim to me; there also isn't evidence to disprove that millions of invisible fat purple fairies are flitting around all over the place, but that alone does not make invisble fat purple fairies a viable belief. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"]saying there is not enough evidence is stupid...there isn't enough evidence to disprove the existence of god either...I am not an atheist...I believe there is a god, but I don't think that god cares about us...xaos
That's an odd claim to me; there also isn't evidence to disprove that millions of invisible fat purple fairies are flitting around all over the place, but that alone does not make invisble fat purple fairies a viable belief. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

i have some of those fairies in a jar. i don't know how much longer they'll live, though. i don't know what they eat, nor did bother to put in any air holes.
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]saying there is not enough evidence is stupid...there isn't enough evidence to disprove the existence of god either...I am not an atheist...I believe there is a god, but I don't think that god cares about us...dooly420
That's an odd claim to me; there also isn't evidence to disprove that millions of invisible fat purple fairies are flitting around all over the place, but that alone does not make invisble fat purple fairies a viable belief. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

i have some of those fairies in a jar. i don't know how much longer they'll live, though. i don't know what they eat, nor did bother to put in any air holes.

Here's the obligatory "Pics or it didn't happen!" I'll go ahead and extend that to God's creation of the heaven and earth, and the Big Bang as well.
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#46 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"]saying there is not enough evidence is stupid...there isn't enough evidence to disprove the existence of god either...I am not an atheist...I believe there is a god, but I don't think that god cares about us...xaos
That's an odd claim to me; there also isn't evidence to disprove that millions of invisible fat purple fairies are flitting around all over the place, but that alone does not make invisble fat purple fairies a viable belief. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

well, there is a huge difference between god and invisible fat fairies...first off, god has aspects that make it have an impact on the natural world (people claim god does certain things) and the natural world is testable against itself...just on that alone it is foolish to say that there isn't enough evidence for god, because the things a god would do, do not have full natural explinations yet...true, it is a god of the gaps argument, but when saying there isn't enough evidence for god, it is important to show that there isn't enough evidence to rule out god either...
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#47 Stormtide
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he doesn't exist for the same reason santa claus doesn't exist
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#48 dooly420
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[QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]saying there is not enough evidence is stupid...there isn't enough evidence to disprove the existence of god either...I am not an atheist...I believe there is a god, but I don't think that god cares about us...xaos
That's an odd claim to me; there also isn't evidence to disprove that millions of invisible fat purple fairies are flitting around all over the place, but that alone does not make invisble fat purple fairies a viable belief. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

i have some of those fairies in a jar. i don't know how much longer they'll live, though. i don't know what they eat, nor did bother to put in any air holes.

Here's the obligatory "Pics or it didn't happen!" I'll go ahead and extend that to God's creation of the heaven and earth, and the Big Bang as well.

 there. you can't see them because they're invisible, but they're there.
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#49 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]saying there is not enough evidence is stupid...there isn't enough evidence to disprove the existence of god either...I am not an atheist...I believe there is a god, but I don't think that god cares about us...fat_rob
That's an odd claim to me; there also isn't evidence to disprove that millions of invisible fat purple fairies are flitting around all over the place, but that alone does not make invisble fat purple fairies a viable belief. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

well, there is a huge difference between god and invisible fat fairies...first off, god has aspects that make it have an impact on the natural world (people claim god does certain things) and the natural world is testable against itself...just on that alone it is foolish to say that there isn't enough evidence for god, because the things a god would do, do not have full natural explinations yet...true, it is a god of the gaps argument, but when saying there isn't enough evidence for god, it is important to show that there isn't enough evidence to rule out god either...

If I attribute those things to invisible fat fairies, the argument stands identically, though
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]saying there is not enough evidence is stupid...there isn't enough evidence to disprove the existence of god either...I am not an atheist...I believe there is a god, but I don't think that god cares about us...dooly420
That's an odd claim to me; there also isn't evidence to disprove that millions of invisible fat purple fairies are flitting around all over the place, but that alone does not make invisble fat purple fairies a viable belief. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

i have some of those fairies in a jar. i don't know how much longer they'll live, though. i don't know what they eat, nor did bother to put in any air holes.

Here's the obligatory "Pics or it didn't happen!" I'll go ahead and extend that to God's creation of the heaven and earth, and the Big Bang as well.

 there. you can't see them because they're invisible, but they're there.

I can tell they are there, because I can't see them!