To Write Love On Her Arms.

Anybody else have a shirt from this orginization? I love it.

Here is one of the shirts I have. Its very simple but I like it that people are finally starting to help other people with their depression and such, instead of just saying "Youre so emo" and brushing them off.

I don't think buying a shirt is going to make me feel any less depressed.

I have my own ways of dealing with depression and I'm a phenomenal skateboarder because of it.

I don't think buying a shirt is going to make me feel any less depressed.

I have my own ways of dealing with depression and I'm a phenomenal skateboarder because of it.

Boba_Fett_3710

Its not just buying the shirt :lol: Matt-4542

Sure it is. It's just a shirt with words on it. Nothing more.

I think a lot of people choose to be emo. If people could make their environment pleasant enough so they don't feel as though they have to be emo, then so be it but I think it's rather silly though. I like the shirts however. I wouldn't mine wearing one. :oops:Genetic_Code

I just heard about it last school year. My friend Jessie was wearing a green shirt like the one I have now and Im like "Who are they?" cause I thought it was a band :lol: and shes like its not a band, just go to google or something when you get home x)

I dont mind "emo" people, as long as they dont whine about everything to me :lol: But people can be suicidal and depressed and no where near emo aswell.

I just heard about it last school year. My friend Jessie was wearing a green shirt like the one I have now and Im like "Who are they?" cause I thought it was a band :lol: and shes like its not a band, just go to google or something when you get home x)

Matt-4542

The first time I ever saw it was a picture of Amy Lee wearing it. I thought it was to look cool or something.

I can't speak for emo people. I only know posers.

Lmao, shes the singer for Evanescence or however you spell it, right? I think she is :lol: Thats the first picture of her that Ive seen in a long time.

I support this organization. I would never buy one of these shirts though...

I try not to judge, but really, emo people do not get my sympathy in most situations. If you are feeling sad about life, do something about it. Cutting your wrists makes no sense,but it also shows that you might have another problem: indecisiveness. If causing pain is your goal, then there are much more painful things you can do to yourself to really get the blood flowing. If blowing off some steam is your goal, then get a hobby.

I say all this from the perspective of someone who isn't emo. So, if you are emo and find what I say very offensive or wrong, keep in mind I mean no disrespect, and if you could tell me how it is from your side, I am happy to listen. ^_^

Saw hot topic in the url, sorry, not clicking...DJ_Novakain

Nice generalization man! Want a cookie? :?

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]Saw hot topic in the url, sorry, not clicking...SynysterFreak

Nice generalization man! Want a cookie? :?

-snickers- Kudos that was awesome

Wait, what? It's for depressed people, or emo's? I'm missing something here. Regardless, I'm neither, so I don't think I'll be wearing that.metallica_fan42

The shirts can be worn by anyone in support of a better life for depressed people and emo's.

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]Saw hot topic in the url, sorry, not clicking...SynysterFreak

Nice generalization man! Want a cookie? :?

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]Saw hot topic in the url, sorry, not clicking...SynysterFreak

Nice generalization man! Want a cookie? :?

[QUOTE="SynysterFreak"]

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]Saw hot topic in the url, sorry, not clicking...DJ_Novakain

Nice generalization man! Want a cookie? :?

...it's actually a pretty normal store. My friend's mum buys clothes there. Just a normal mum btw. so how bou tyou give it a chance

I don't believe that going around with that shirt is gonna help anyone.Hungry_bunny

It's kinda like wearing those little support wrist bands. Think of it that way. Or like, the marathons for certain causes. I mean, weraing those wrist bands and walking certainly isn't going to help a cause, but they do it to raise awarness of the issue (and in some cases, to fund raise), which very well could have an impact

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"]

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]Saw hot topic in the url, sorry, not clicking...xxxBravo_3xxx

Nice generalization man! Want a cookie? :?

...it's actually a pretty normal store. My friend's mum buys clothes there. Just a normal mum btw. so how bou tyou give it a chance

^^ Agreed. The store does carry some so called "goth" items, but the whole store isn't like that. That would be like me saying that Walmart is a lingerie store becasue they sell that there. There are a LOT of "normal" looking items and clothes in Hot Topic.

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"]

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]Saw hot topic in the url, sorry, not clicking...xxxBravo_3xxx

Nice generalization man! Want a cookie? :?

...it's actually a pretty normal store. My friend's mum buys clothes there. Just a normal mum btw. so how bou tyou give it a chance

:lol: I found a mistake on Hot Topic's website. :P Instead of "injury" they put "injuy".

Anyway, that would be a good idea. Some people who are depressed do not know who to go to and sometimes feel like they are an outcast, and that if they go to anyone for help, the person will just brush them away.

[QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]I don't believe that going around with that shirt is gonna help anyone.SynysterFreak

It's kinda like wearing those little support wrist bands. Think of it that way. Or like, the marathons for certain causes. I mean, weraing those wrist bands and walking certainly isn't going to help a cause, but they do it to raise awarness of the issue (and in some cases, to fund raise), which very well could have an impact

[QUOTE="SynysterFreak"]

[QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]I don't believe that going around with that shirt is gonna help anyone.xaos

It's kinda like wearing those little support wrist bands. Think of it that way. Or like, the marathons for certain causes. I mean, weraing those wrist bands and walking certainly isn't going to help a cause, but they do it to raise awarness of the issue (and in some cases, to fund raise), which very well could have an impact

[QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]I don't believe that going around with that shirt is gonna help anyone.SynysterFreak

It's kinda like wearing those little support wrist bands. Think of it that way. Or like, the marathons for certain causes. I mean, weraing those wrist bands and walking certainly isn't going to help a cause, but they do it to raise awarness of the issue (and in some cases, to fund raise), which very well could have an impact

:lol: I found a mistake on Hot Topic's website. :P Instead of "injury" they put "injuy".

Anyway, that would be a good idea. Some people who are depressed do not know who to go to and sometimes feel like they are an outcast, and that if they go to anyone for help, the person will just brush them away.

ayanami_rei

Exactly. I'll take a guess that anyone on this thread that is bashing the cause has never actually had experiences with depression. And no, I"m not talking about the kind you get after you break up with someone, etc. I'm talking about clinical depression that requires treatment. If you haven't has that experience, you can't bash this cause. I've been in that situation before, and it's unimaginable how bad it really is. So before someone starts saying, "oh suck it up you frickin whiny lil emo b****", consider the fact that you haven't been in that posistion and have NO clue what it feels like. If you have had clinical depression before though, and still want to say that, well then, go ahead. You have the right I suppose.

[QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]

:lol: I found a mistake on Hot Topic's website. :P Instead of "injury" they put "injuy".

Anyway, that would be a good idea. Some people who are depressed do not know who to go to and sometimes feel like they are an outcast, and that if they go to anyone for help, the person will just brush them away.

SynysterFreak

Exactly. I'll take a guess that anyone on this thread that is bashing the cause has never actually had experiences with depression. And no, I"m not talking about the kind you get after you break up with someone, etc. I'm talking about clinical depression that requires treatment. If you haven't has that experience, you can't bash this cause. I've been in that situation before, and it's unimaginable how bad it really is. So before someone starts saying, "oh suck it up you frickin whiny lil emo b****", consider the fact that you haven't been in that posistion and have NO clue what it feels like. If you have had clinical depression before though, and still want to say that, well then, go ahead. You have the right I suppose.

You give me too little credit. Im fully aware of what clinical depression is and that it is a serious problem. Ive never given money to a charity, and if I did, I wouldn't mind giving some to depression victims and such. But I will not do so through Hot Topic and I certainly won't buy that mallgoth shirt. Just give me the address of a clinic and ill send them a cashiers check... kay?

[QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]

:lol: I found a mistake on Hot Topic's website. :P Instead of "injury" they put "injuy".

Anyway, that would be a good idea. Some people who are depressed do not know who to go to and sometimes feel like they are an outcast, and that if they go to anyone for help, the person will just brush them away.

DJ_Novakain

Exactly. I'll take a guess that anyone on this thread that is bashing the cause has never actually had experiences with depression. And no, I"m not talking about the kind you get after you break up with someone, etc. I'm talking about clinical depression that requires treatment. If you haven't has that experience, you can't bash this cause. I've been in that situation before, and it's unimaginable how bad it really is. So before someone starts saying, "oh suck it up you frickin whiny lil emo b****", consider the fact that you haven't been in that posistion and have NO clue what it feels like. If you have had clinical depression before though, and still want to say that, well then, go ahead. You have the right I suppose.

You give me too little credit. Im fully aware of what clinical depression is and that it is a serious problem. Ive never given money to a charity, and if I did, I wouldn't mind giving some to depression victims and such. But I will not do so through Hot Topic and I certainly won't buy that mallgoth shirt. Just give me the address of a clinic and ill send them a cashiers check... kay?

Tell me though, Have you had it yourself? Do you actually know how it feels to have it?

And btw, you're not supoprting that cause "through" hot topic. There are MANY other places you can buy those shirts. They even had a seperate both set up for it at a recent music festival I went to, and it was not Hot Topic sponsored.

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]

:lol: I found a mistake on Hot Topic's website. :P Instead of "injury" they put "injuy".

Anyway, that would be a good idea. Some people who are depressed do not know who to go to and sometimes feel like they are an outcast, and that if they go to anyone for help, the person will just brush them away.

SynysterFreak

Exactly. I'll take a guess that anyone on this thread that is bashing the cause has never actually had experiences with depression. And no, I"m not talking about the kind you get after you break up with someone, etc. I'm talking about clinical depression that requires treatment. If you haven't has that experience, you can't bash this cause. I've been in that situation before, and it's unimaginable how bad it really is. So before someone starts saying, "oh suck it up you frickin whiny lil emo b****", consider the fact that you haven't been in that posistion and have NO clue what it feels like. If you have had clinical depression before though, and still want to say that, well then, go ahead. You have the right I suppose.

You give me too little credit. Im fully aware of what clinical depression is and that it is a serious problem. Ive never given money to a charity, and if I did, I wouldn't mind giving some to depression victims and such. But I will not do so through Hot Topic and I certainly won't buy that mallgoth shirt. Just give me the address of a clinic and ill send them a cashiers check... kay?

Tell me though, Have you had it yourself? Do you actually know how it feels to have it?

And btw, you're not supoprting that cause "through" hot topic. There are MANY other places you can buy those shirts. They even had a seperate both set up for it at a recent music festival I went to, and it was not Hot Topic sponsored.

[QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]

:lol: I found a mistake on Hot Topic's website. :P Instead of "injury" they put "injuy".

Anyway, that would be a good idea. Some people who are depressed do not know who to go to and sometimes feel like they are an outcast, and that if they go to anyone for help, the person will just brush them away.

DJ_Novakain

Exactly. I'll take a guess that anyone on this thread that is bashing the cause has never actually had experiences with depression. And no, I"m not talking about the kind you get after you break up with someone, etc. I'm talking about clinical depression that requires treatment. If you haven't has that experience, you can't bash this cause. I've been in that situation before, and it's unimaginable how bad it really is. So before someone starts saying, "oh suck it up you frickin whiny lil emo b****", consider the fact that you haven't been in that posistion and have NO clue what it feels like. If you have had clinical depression before though, and still want to say that, well then, go ahead. You have the right I suppose.

You give me too little credit. Im fully aware of what clinical depression is and that it is a serious problem. Ive never given money to a charity, and if I did, I wouldn't mind giving some to depression victims and such. But I will not do so through Hot Topic and I certainly won't buy that mallgoth shirt. Just give me the address of a clinic and ill send them a cashiers check... kay?

Tell me though, Have you had it yourself? Do you actually know how it feels to have it?

And btw, you're not supoprting that cause "through" hot topic. There are MANY other places you can buy those shirts. They even had a seperate both set up for it at a recent music festival I went to, and it was not Hot Topic sponsored.

Hey, I'm not fighting you man. But you can't say you "understand" something when you have had no actual experience with it yourself. Besides, I wasn't the one making stereotypes here, now was I?

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]

:lol: I found a mistake on Hot Topic's website. :P Instead of "injury" they put "injuy".

Anyway, that would be a good idea. Some people who are depressed do not know who to go to and sometimes feel like they are an outcast, and that if they go to anyone for help, the person will just brush them away.

SynysterFreak

Exactly. I'll take a guess that anyone on this thread that is bashing the cause has never actually had experiences with depression. And no, I"m not talking about the kind you get after you break up with someone, etc. I'm talking about clinical depression that requires treatment. If you haven't has that experience, you can't bash this cause. I've been in that situation before, and it's unimaginable how bad it really is. So before someone starts saying, "oh suck it up you frickin whiny lil emo b****", consider the fact that you haven't been in that posistion and have NO clue what it feels like. If you have had clinical depression before though, and still want to say that, well then, go ahead. You have the right I suppose.

You give me too little credit. Im fully aware of what clinical depression is and that it is a serious problem. Ive never given money to a charity, and if I did, I wouldn't mind giving some to depression victims and such. But I will not do so through Hot Topic and I certainly won't buy that mallgoth shirt. Just give me the address of a clinic and ill send them a cashiers check... kay?

Tell me though, Have you had it yourself? Do you actually know how it feels to have it?

And btw, you're not supoprting that cause "through" hot topic. There are MANY other places you can buy those shirts. They even had a seperate both set up for it at a recent music festival I went to, and it was not Hot Topic sponsored.

Hey, I'm not fighting you man. But you can't say you "understand" something when you have had no actual experience with it yourself. Besides, I wasn't the one making stereotypes here, now was I?

You can cut it with that whole, BUT YOU DONT UNDERSTAAAAND BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW, crap too. Just because ive never had depression doesn't mean I can't have some concept or at least basic knowledge of what it is...

I think some of you are missing the point of what TO WRITE LOVE ON HER ARMS is about. Rather than just judge the store that sells them, why don't you read up one what the organization is for.

The following information was taken from http://www.twloha.com - FAQ's

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Q.What is To Write Love on Her Arms?
A. TWLOHA is a non-profit movement dedicated to presenting hope and finding help for those struggling with depression, addiction, self-injury and suicide. TWLOHA exists to encourage, inform, inspire, and also to invest directly into treatment and recovery.

Q: How did TWLOHA start?
A: To Write Love on Her Arms began in Orlando, FL in February 2006 as a (written) story, the true story of five days spent with a friend who was denied entry into a drug treatment center. The story was a look at those five days, and the t-shirts were printed and sold initially as a way to pay for our friend's treatment.

Q: Where does the money go?
A: TWLOHA gives 25% of all proceeds directly to treatment and recovery through the organizations listed below. Beyond that, we believe that all the work we do is important, not just donating to treatment and recovery. We have a small staff, and that includes part-time help who respond to MySpace messages and emails everyday. That's the heart of what we do. That's the most important piece, that interaction and being in a place to encourage people who are hurting. In so many cases, those are folks talking about these issues, sharing their struggles, asking for help, for the very first time. It's a privilege that we get to respond to those messages. We get opportunities to speak and be a part of different concerts, tours, events, etc. Warped Tour was obviously a huge example this summer, and we're already looking forward to next summer, so our team works to make those things happen. We're starting to focus more on our street team and ways we can equip people. We don't just want to equip them to promote TWLOHA.
We want to educate and encourage people so that they understand these issues, so they can walk with friends who are dealing with these things.

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So please stop all of this bickering about stupid Hot Topic and Emos. Have a bit of compassion and respect for something and/or someone who cares about people in need.

[QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]

:lol: I found a mistake on Hot Topic's website. :P Instead of "injury" they put "injuy".

Anyway, that would be a good idea. Some people who are depressed do not know who to go to and sometimes feel like they are an outcast, and that if they go to anyone for help, the person will just brush them away.

DJ_Novakain

Exactly. I'll take a guess that anyone on this thread that is bashing the cause has never actually had experiences with depression. And no, I"m not talking about the kind you get after you break up with someone, etc. I'm talking about clinical depression that requires treatment. If you haven't has that experience, you can't bash this cause. I've been in that situation before, and it's unimaginable how bad it really is. So before someone starts saying, "oh suck it up you frickin whiny lil emo b****", consider the fact that you haven't been in that posistion and have NO clue what it feels like. If you have had clinical depression before though, and still want to say that, well then, go ahead. You have the right I suppose.

You give me too little credit. Im fully aware of what clinical depression is and that it is a serious problem. Ive never given money to a charity, and if I did, I wouldn't mind giving some to depression victims and such. But I will not do so through Hot Topic and I certainly won't buy that mallgoth shirt. Just give me the address of a clinic and ill send them a cashiers check... kay?

Tell me though, Have you had it yourself? Do you actually know how it feels to have it?

And btw, you're not supoprting that cause "through" hot topic. There are MANY other places you can buy those shirts. They even had a seperate both set up for it at a recent music festival I went to, and it was not Hot Topic sponsored.

Hey, I'm not fighting you man. But you can't say you "understand" something when you have had no actual experience with it yourself. Besides, I wasn't the one making stereotypes here, now was I?

You can cut it with that whole, BUT YOU DONT UNDERSTAAAAND BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW, crap too. Just because ive never had depression doesn't mean I can't have some concept or at least basic knowledge of what it is...

I never said you don't have knowledge of it. That wasn't my point. I was saying you haven't had EXPERIENCE with it, so how can you say that you know what it's like? Tell me how. I'd really like to know that. Simply learning about it doesn't suddenly mean you know everything about a subject, and this applys esspecially for any type of mental disorder.

Btw, saying that Hot Topic is a bunch of mallgoth crap is making a stereotype. Like I said before, there are alot of things in there that isn't "goth". And as far as your band shirt statment before, yes, there are a LOT of band shirts in there. Wearing a shirt by your favorite band does NOT make you emo or goth though. That is stereotyping once again. They sell Bob Marley shirts in there for God's sake. What is EMO or GOTH about wearing that?

I think some of you are missing the point of what TO WRITE LOVE ON HER ARMS is about. Rather than just judge the store that sells them, why don't you read up one what the organization is for.

The following information was taken from http://www.twloha.com - FAQ's

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Q.What is To Write Love on Her Arms?
A. TWLOHA is a non-profit movement dedicated to presenting hope and finding help for those struggling with depression, addiction, self-injury and suicide. TWLOHA exists to encourage, inform, inspire, and also to invest directly into treatment and recovery.

Q: How did TWLOHA start?
A: To Write Love on Her Arms began in Orlando, FL in February 2006 as a (written) story, the true story of five days spent with a friend who was denied entry into a drug treatment center. The story was a look at those five days, and the t-shirts were printed and sold initially as a way to pay for our friend's treatment.

Q: Where does the money go?
A: TWLOHA gives 25% of all proceeds directly to treatment and recovery through the organizations listed below. Beyond that, we believe that all the work we do is important, not just donating to treatment and recovery. We have a small staff, and that includes part-time help who respond to MySpace messages and emails everyday. That's the heart of what we do. That's the most important piece, that interaction and being in a place to encourage people who are hurting. In so many cases, those are folks talking about these issues, sharing their struggles, asking for help, for the very first time. It's a privilege that we get to respond to those messages. We get opportunities to speak and be a part of different concerts, tours, events, etc. Warped Tour was obviously a huge example this summer, and we're already looking forward to next summer, so our team works to make those things happen. We're starting to focus more on our street team and ways we can equip people. We don't just want to equip them to promote TWLOHA.
We want to educate and encourage people so that they understand these issues, so they can walk with friends who are dealing with these things.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

So please stop all of this bickering about stupid Hot Topic and Emos. Have a bit of compassion and respect for something and/or someone who cares about people in need.

Kounterfit

Finally someone who doesn't have their head up their @$$.

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]

:lol: I found a mistake on Hot Topic's website. :P Instead of "injury" they put "injuy".

Anyway, that would be a good idea. Some people who are depressed do not know who to go to and sometimes feel like they are an outcast, and that if they go to anyone for help, the person will just brush them away.

SynysterFreak

Exactly. I'll take a guess that anyone on this thread that is bashing the cause has never actually had experiences with depression. And no, I"m not talking about the kind you get after you break up with someone, etc. I'm talking about clinical depression that requires treatment. If you haven't has that experience, you can't bash this cause. I've been in that situation before, and it's unimaginable how bad it really is. So before someone starts saying, "oh suck it up you frickin whiny lil emo b****", consider the fact that you haven't been in that posistion and have NO clue what it feels like. If you have had clinical depression before though, and still want to say that, well then, go ahead. You have the right I suppose.

You give me too little credit. Im fully aware of what clinical depression is and that it is a serious problem. Ive never given money to a charity, and if I did, I wouldn't mind giving some to depression victims and such. But I will not do so through Hot Topic and I certainly won't buy that mallgoth shirt. Just give me the address of a clinic and ill send them a cashiers check... kay?

Tell me though, Have you had it yourself? Do you actually know how it feels to have it?

And btw, you're not supoprting that cause "through" hot topic. There are MANY other places you can buy those shirts. They even had a seperate both set up for it at a recent music festival I went to, and it was not Hot Topic sponsored.

Hey, I'm not fighting you man. But you can't say you "understand" something when you have had no actual experience with it yourself. Besides, I wasn't the one making stereotypes here, now was I?

You can cut it with that whole, BUT YOU DONT UNDERSTAAAAND BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW, crap too. Just because ive never had depression doesn't mean I can't have some concept or at least basic knowledge of what it is...

I never said you don't have knowledge of it. That wasn't my point. I was saying you haven't had EXPERIENCE with it, so how can you say that you know what it's like? Tell me how. I'd really like to know that. Simply learning about it doesn't suddenly mean you know everything about a subject, and this applys esspecially for any type of mental disorder.

Btw, saying that Hot Topic is a bunch of mallgoth crap is making a stereotype. Like I said before, there are alot of things in there that isn't "goth". And as far as your band shirt statment before, yes, there are a LOT of band shirts in there. Wearing a shirt by your favorite band does NOT make you emo or goth though. That is stereotyping once again. They sell Bob Marley shirts in there for God's sake. What is EMO or GOTH about wearing that?

[QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]

:lol: I found a mistake on Hot Topic's website. :P Instead of "injury" they put "injuy".

Anyway, that would be a good idea. Some people who are depressed do not know who to go to and sometimes feel like they are an outcast, and that if they go to anyone for help, the person will just brush them away.

DJ_Novakain

Exactly. I'll take a guess that anyone on this thread that is bashing the cause has never actually had experiences with depression. And no, I"m not talking about the kind you get after you break up with someone, etc. I'm talking about clinical depression that requires treatment. If you haven't has that experience, you can't bash this cause. I've been in that situation before, and it's unimaginable how bad it really is. So before someone starts saying, "oh suck it up you frickin whiny lil emo b****", consider the fact that you haven't been in that posistion and have NO clue what it feels like. If you have had clinical depression before though, and still want to say that, well then, go ahead. You have the right I suppose.

You give me too little credit. Im fully aware of what clinical depression is and that it is a serious problem. Ive never given money to a charity, and if I did, I wouldn't mind giving some to depression victims and such. But I will not do so through Hot Topic and I certainly won't buy that mallgoth shirt. Just give me the address of a clinic and ill send them a cashiers check... kay?

Tell me though, Have you had it yourself? Do you actually know how it feels to have it?

And btw, you're not supoprting that cause "through" hot topic. There are MANY other places you can buy those shirts. They even had a seperate both set up for it at a recent music festival I went to, and it was not Hot Topic sponsored.

Hey, I'm not fighting you man. But you can't say you "understand" something when you have had no actual experience with it yourself. Besides, I wasn't the one making stereotypes here, now was I?

You can cut it with that whole, BUT YOU DONT UNDERSTAAAAND BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW, crap too. Just because ive never had depression doesn't mean I can't have some concept or at least basic knowledge of what it is...

I never said you don't have knowledge of it. That wasn't my point. I was saying you haven't had EXPERIENCE with it, so how can you say that you know what it's like? Tell me how. I'd really like to know that. Simply learning about it doesn't suddenly mean you know everything about a subject, and this applys esspecially for any type of mental disorder.

Btw, saying that Hot Topic is a bunch of mallgoth crap is making a stereotype. Like I said before, there are alot of things in there that isn't "goth". And as far as your band shirt statment before, yes, there are a LOT of band shirts in there. Wearing a shirt by your favorite band does NOT make you emo or goth though. That is stereotyping once again. They sell Bob Marley shirts in there for God's sake. What is EMO or GOTH about wearing that?

Mental issues are way different than any other type of sickness man. You can be as book smart as you want about a subjest like that, but you still won't be able to talk from first hand experience. All I'm saying in short, is that before you start talking like you know about the matter, consider the fact that you haven't actually had the disorder yourself, and can't understand what kind of pain it actually puts you through.

You keep on ignoring the fact that I NEVER CLAIMED TO KNOW FIRST HAND WHAT DEPRESSION IS LIKE, so stop acting like I did...

Ok man, listen. I DID NOT say that you calimed you knew what it was like first hand. I said that until you've had the expericence first hand, don't bash a cause trying to help people out that have that disorder. And yeah, I did consult a doctor. I was on meds, and was going to therapy. I didn't say that someone can't HELP you if they haven't had depression themselves. I said that they don't have the right to come down on people who have, and can't act as though just learning about it gives you the right to do so. And I'm the first to admit, therapy was not much help. At all. Hopefully most people get better results than I did, but personally, I just had to wait till it ran it's course of about 1 year. So no, someone who had just learned about it didn't help me much anyways.

EDIT* it seems I didn't do that quote thing right...

I never said anything bad about people with depression... where are you getting this?DJ_Novakain

No, you didn't. But don't stereotype the cause as supporting emos.

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]I never said anything bad about people with depression... where are you getting this?SynysterFreak

No, you didn't. But don't stereotype the cause as supporting emos.

[QUOTE="SynysterFreak"]

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]I never said anything bad about people with depression... where are you getting this?DJ_Novakain

No, you didn't. But don't stereotype the cause as supporting emos.

"Ive been in there. Its all a bunch of crappy band shirts, crappy music, and mallgoth paraphernalia. I have no interest in giving any amount, no matter how small, of my money to that corporation to encourage them to continue with their pseudo-hip corporate shenanigans..."

What was your meaning behind this statement then

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]I never said anything bad about people with depression... where are you getting this?SynysterFreak

No, you didn't. But don't stereotype the cause as supporting emos.

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"]

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]I never said anything bad about people with depression... where are you getting this?SynysterFreak

No, you didn't. But don't stereotype the cause as supporting emos.

"Ive been in there. Its all a bunch of crappy band shirts, crappy music, and mallgoth paraphernalia. I have no interest in giving any amount, no matter how small, of my money to that corporation to encourage them to continue with their pseudo-hip corporate shenanigans..."

What was your meaning behind this statement then

seriously, stop looking for trouble. Im really getting tired of your innocent victim bs...

[QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"]

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]I never said anything bad about people with depression... where are you getting this?DJ_Novakain

No, you didn't. But don't stereotype the cause as supporting emos.

"Ive been in there. Its all a bunch of crappy band shirts, crappy music, and mallgoth paraphernalia. I have no interest in giving any amount, no matter how small, of my money to that corporation to encourage them to continue with their pseudo-hip corporate shenanigans..."

What was your meaning behind this statement then

seriously, stop looking for trouble. Im really getting tired of your innocent victim bs...

Alright man, my mistake. I thought you were dissing TWLOHA. I guess I need to read better. But seriously, don't stereotype hot topic. They're not "mallgoth crap"

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="SynysterFreak"]

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]I never said anything bad about people with depression... where are you getting this?SynysterFreak

No, you didn't. But don't stereotype the cause as supporting emos.

"Ive been in there. Its all a bunch of crappy band shirts, crappy music, and mallgoth paraphernalia. I have no interest in giving any amount, no matter how small, of my money to that corporation to encourage them to continue with their pseudo-hip corporate shenanigans..."

What was your meaning behind this statement then

seriously, stop looking for trouble. Im really getting tired of your innocent victim bs...

Alright man, my mistake. I thought you were dissing TWLOHA. I guess I need to read better. But seriously, don't stereotype hot topic. They're not "mallgoth crap"

/topic resolved