Troma, Snuff and other extreme genres

Later tonight I'm going to watch "Ichi the Killer" for the first time, maybe followed by "Salò" if I can handle them both in a row.

Ichi the Killer: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0296042/

Salò: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073650/

You into the more extreme side of film making? List some of your favorite films, and motivate what you like about them.

Not really a fan of any type of extreme gore movies, I dont see the pleasure in watching them unless they have a very good plot and a point behind the gore.SaintLeonidas

Plot can be discussed, but often the whole point behind certain films like that is just expressing the art of the gore itself.

Isn't a snuff film simply a real murder in a movie? which is illegal so its not like you can go to your local video store or move theatre and see a snuff film.Mayhem48

Yeah the term "snuff" refers to those urban legendary Italian whack job films, but there are certain films made to look like snuff movies, such as August Underground.

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]Not really a fan of any type of extreme gore movies, I dont see the pleasure in watching them unless they have a very good plot and a point behind the gore.Scarebaby

Plot can be discussed, but often the whole point behind certain films like that is just expressing the art of the gore itself.

i dont see any art in gore or torture, there isnt any, unless like I said there is a plot/point to why there is gore.

Not really a fan of any type of extreme gore movies, I dont see the pleasure in watching them unless they have a very good plot and a point behind the gore.SaintLeonidas

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]Not really a fan of any type of extreme gore movies, I dont see the pleasure in watching them unless they have a very good plot and a point behind the gore.freek666

Yes its Arrested Development, and lol :)

it's "trauma" not "troma"

sorry, but bad spelling really drives me mad.

it's "trauma" not "troma"

sorry, but bad spelling really drives me mad.

Komodog

He might have meant these fellas.

i dont see any art in gore or torture, there isnt any, unless like I said there is a plot/point to why there is gore.SaintLeonidas

It is an acknowledged genre and a certain way some directors choose to express themselves, regardless of your own personal opinion. Not saying that all gore flicks have a point or any depth at all, of course.

see cannibal holocaust aswell. really disgusting, but utterly brilliantGEARS_0f_war983

Admittedly, it was groundbreaking but that's all the charm it holds for me, unfortunately.

Contrary to popular belief, there are no snuff movies.DrSponge

I'll just repeat my previous statement here: The term "snuff" refers to those urban legendary Italian whack job films, but there are certain films made to look like snuff movies, such as August Underground.

it's "trauma" not "troma"

sorry, but bad spelling really drives me mad.

Komodog

Get a clue.

Ooh. Sounds sweet.

see cannibal holocaust aswell. really disgusting, but utterly brilliantGEARS_0f_war983

I've got it and I'm an avid horror film fan. What is so great about Cannibal Holocaust? What is the artistic merit in butchering animals on-screen for "entertainment"?? It's just a pseudo-documentary trashfest bordering on idiotic at best.

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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]Not really a fan of any type of extreme gore movies, I dont see the pleasure in watching them unless they have a very good plot and a point behind the gore.SaintLeonidas

Plot can be discussed, but often the whole point behind certain films like that is just expressing the art of the gore itself.

i dont see any art in gore or torture, there isnt any, unless like I said there is a plot/point to why there is gore.

It's entertainment, as everything else in the movie business.

I question people's sanity who enjoy watching movies like that.sSubZerOo

Wow, could you be a bit more dramatic? The people who go out on the street and butcher others are insane. The people who stay indoors in their nice and quiet corners and watch movies with fake blood and pretend homicides are not. And even if some of them are, isn't it better to watch movies than to take actions to outlet their interest in gore? "Cannibal Holocaust" is a borderline case, since it contains the actual killings of a pig and a turtle, and I didn't enjoy that movie one bit.

eh nothing extreme but i do enjoy a good gore fest now and then, movies like Starship troopers and saving private ryan, its refreshing to watch something that hasnt been toned down, i appreciate realism

I love troma movies

I only own a few but I've seen a handful

well, salo does suck....

i mean, its like watching men behind the sun but with rapes, torture, kids dying.... it sux so much the movie isnt enjoyable at any point, and i did enjoy ad laugh with ichi XD but salo man.... well dammit dude haha

yeah, ud ask why the **** did i watch it... i offered myself to make a school project bout it XD it was soooo daaaaamn haaaaaard to get... legally tht is :P

aaand yeah! gore can be unfun at very realistic rates...

but

you cant deny its fun sometimes... i mean, watch a movie where a guy gets his head chopped, and he wont bleed....

it looks fake and you wont like it, but with blood itll look good XD

still, tht could be me, since i play with blood when i bleed XD with water and stuff! :D... :S

well, salo does suck....

i mean, its like watching men behind the sun but with rapes, torture, kids dying.... it sux so much the movie isnt enjoyable at any point, and i did enjoy ad laugh with ichi XD but salo man.... well dammit dude haha

yeah, ud ask why the **** did i watch it... i offered myself to make a school project bout it XD it was soooo daaaaamn haaaaaard to get... legally tht is :P

Bliind-Guardian

You made a school project about the movie itself or about Pasolini? I'm intrigued.

aaand yeah! gore can be unfun at very realistic rates...

but

you cant deny its fun sometimes... i mean, watch a movie where a guy gets his head chopped, and he wont bleed....

it looks fake and you wont like it, but with blood itll look good XD

still, tht could be me, since i play with blood when i bleed XD with water and stuff! :D... :S

Bliind-Guardian

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well, salo does suck....

i mean, its like watching men behind the sun but with rapes, torture, kids dying.... it sux so much the movie isnt enjoyable at any point, and i did enjoy ad laugh with ichi XD but salo man.... well dammit dude haha

yeah, ud ask why the **** did i watch it... i offered myself to make a school project bout it XD it was soooo daaaaamn haaaaaard to get... legally tht is :P

Scarebaby

You made a school project about the movie itself or about Pasolini? I'm intrigued.

nah, it was bout the movie haha but yeah, my teacher didnt think i would dare to do it, so i did it for a good grade! still had to research something bout the dude, since it amazed m that he was suck a religious fanatic, and i think he was homosexual XD how the hell does a homosexual and religious fanatic make something like that? i donno XD, but he did grow up in a hard way :S

Ooh! Which one is your favorite? Mine so far is Decampitated. Love your sig btw. Scarebaby

terror firmer is the pinnacle of troma movies

I already posted some but I can't seem to get them past the censor bypass

besides toxic avenger that is

nah, it was bout the movie haha but yeah, my teacher didnt think i would dare to do it, so i did it for a good grade! still had to research something bout the dude, since it amazed m that he was suck a religious fanatic, and i think he was homosexual XD how the hell does a homosexual and religious fanatic make something like that? i donno XD, but he did grow up in a hard way :S Bliind-Guardian

You wouldn't by any chance still have the school paper available? I would love to take a look at it, if it's not too bold to ask.

I have watched so many gory movies, nothing bothers me. its not the gore so much, its the intent of the scene. Its also the pacing and editing that make a scene effective. Sometimes gore is just boring..other times it makes you sit up off the couch with your mouth hanging open with amazement.

Highly recommend a new film called INSIDE. Its a French movie that is very brutal and disturbing about a pregnant woman being stalked by a maniac woman who wants to steal her baby...the hard way.

[QUOTE="Scarebaby"]Ooh! Which one is your favorite? Mine so far is Decampitated. Love your sig btw. nightshade85

terror firmer is the pinnacle of troma movies

I already posted some but I can't seem to get them past the censor bypass

besides toxic avenger that is

Hah, Terror Firmer is excruciating XD Have you seen Cannibal the Musical or Tromeo and Juliet?

[QUOTE="Bliind-Guardian"]nah, it was bout the movie haha but yeah, my teacher didnt think i would dare to do it, so i did it for a good grade! still had to research something bout the dude, since it amazed m that he was suck a religious fanatic, and i think he was homosexual XD how the hell does a homosexual and religious fanatic make something like that? i donno XD, but he did grow up in a hard way :S Scarebaby

You wouldn't by any chance still have the school paper available? I would love to take a look at it, if it's not too bold to ask.

sorry XD the teacher keeps all papers fo"future references", but i could ask him if he still has it, was bout a year ago when i made the rep, still it would be hard since i live in mexico, and i never save my word homeworks XD, but if i get it back, ill copy it again and send it to you if you wish

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[QUOTE="Scarebaby"]Ooh! Which one is your favorite? Mine so far is Decampitated. Love your sig btw. Scarebaby

terror firmer is the pinnacle of troma movies

I already posted some but I can't seem to get them past the censor bypass

besides toxic avenger that is

Hah, Terror Firmer is excruciating XD Have you seen Cannibal the Musical or Tromeo and Juliet?

... you've seen it, I'm impressed -

I've seen the trailers - but not the movies, I will keep an eye out if they are recommended

... you've seen it, I'm impressed -

I've seen the trailers - but not the movies, I will keep an eye out if they are recommended

nightshade85

I strongly recommend them. Beware of Tromeo though. It's a bit... odd.

sorry XD the teacher keeps all papers fo"future references", but i could ask him if he still has it, was bout a year ago when i made the rep, still it would be hard since i live in mexico, and i never save my word homeworks XD, but if i get it back, ill copy it again and send it to you if you wish Bliind-Guardian

Oh no, that's alright then, I was just a bit curious. Nevermind it if you don't have it neatly available.

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... you've seen it, I'm impressed -

I've seen the trailers - but not the movies, I will keep an eye out if they are recommended

Scarebaby

I strongly recommend them. Beware of Tromeo though. It's a bit... odd.

sorry XD the teacher keeps all papers fo"future references", but i could ask him if he still has it, was bout a year ago when i made the rep, still it would be hard since i live in mexico, and i never save my word homeworks XD, but if i get it back, ill copy it again and send it to you if you wish Bliind-Guardian

Oh no, that's alright then, I was just a bit curious. Nevermind it if you don't have it neatly available.

it's worse than terror firmer?

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It's been a while since I watched Terror Firmer, but I remember that Tromeo grossed me out more. It's more random.

I watched parts of August Underground but i stopped because it got boring after a while.Toshan1337

But that's what makes it so good! It's so real and convincing, which makes it all the more unsettling.

It's been a while since I watched Terror Firmer, but I remember that Tromeo grossed me out more. It's more random.

Scarebaby

if it's worse than terror firmer I will look into it - you may have to rekindle your experiencewith it though, that movie was just over the top

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It's been a while since I watched Terror Firmer, but I remember that Tromeo grossed me out more. It's more random.

nightshade85

if it's worse than terror firmer I will look into it - you may have to rekindle your experiencewith it though, that movie was just over the top

Yeah, I'll watch it soon again, I'm having Troma night with some friends.

[QUOTE="Toshan1337"]I watched parts of August Underground but i stopped because it got boring after a while.Scarebaby

But that's what makes it so good! It's so real and convincing, which makes it all the more unsettling.

I guess i don't like it because it doesn't have a real story. But that Ichi The Killer seems pretty good. Worth checking out?

Later tonight I'm going to watch "Ichi the Killer" for the first time, maybe followed by "Salò" if I can handle them both in a row.

Ichi the Killer: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0296042/

Salò: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073650/

You into the more extreme side of film making? List some of your favorite films, and motivate what you like about them.

Scarebaby

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[QUOTE="Toshan1337"]I watched parts of August Underground but i stopped because it got boring after a while.Toshan1337

But that's what makes it so good! It's so real and convincing, which makes it all the more unsettling.

I guess i don't like it because it doesn't have a real story. But that Ichi The Killer seems pretty good. Worth checking out?

How could it have a story and still maintain its credibility? It was supposed to look authentic which it greatly succeeded in by cutting out the unnecessary drama and action.

I haven't watched Ichi yet, so I'll have to get back to you on that.

seen them both, only part of Ichi that made me quiver was the nipple slicing; as for Sodom, the excrement eating made me sick to my stomach. you should watch Cannibal Holocaust, pretty intense.

though it depends on what you find ''disturbing'', Ichi is pretty damn extreme; (there's a child murder near the end, though...)

[spoiler] it was just an illusion [/spoiler]

'fight for your life' had some child murder - check that one out too.GUNpoint_

Expectations are sky high for Ichi. But please check my earlier posts in this thread for my views on Cannibal Holocaust. I don't hold it in very high regard at all.