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ANKARA, Turkey (AP) A Turkish court on Friday formally charged an internationally known pianist and composer with insulting Islamic religious values in comments he made on Twitter."Akyol said Say's tweets and retweets on social media cannot be considered as public remarks because only people who follow him can see them. In one tweet cited in the indictment, Say said: "What if there is raki (traditional anisette drink) in paradise but not in hell, while there is Chivas Regal (scotch) in hell and not in paradise? What will happen then? This is the most important question!!"" Say shouldn't be charged for asking such relevant questions. Can I be moved to a dimension with both Yeni Raki and single malts? xoxo " Islam forbids alcohol and many Islamists might consider such remarks unacceptable. In one of the pianist's retweets, one excerpt questioned whether paradise was a "brothel?" according to the indictment." Paradise without a drink isn't paradise, broski. Allah (smh) and The Prophet (AMBER) promised me better than that.
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first of all, it's twitter and second of all, nobody cares what a pianist thinks or Says.
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nobody cares what a pianist thinks or Says.ZumaJones07
LOL

Islam is sh*t

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ANKARA, Turkey (AP) A Turkish court on Friday formally charged an internationally known pianist and composer with insulting Islamic religious values in comments he made on Twitter."Akyol said Say's tweets and retweets on social media cannot be considered as public remarks because only people who follow him can see them. In one tweet cited in the indictment, Say said: "What if there is raki (traditional anisette drink) in paradise but not in hell, while there is Chivas Regal (scotch) in hell and not in paradise? What will happen then? This is the most important question!!"" Say shouldn't be charged for asking such relevant questions. Can I be moved to a dimension with both Yeni Raki and single malts? xoxo " Islam forbids alcohol and many Islamists might consider such remarks unacceptable. In one of the pianist's retweets, one excerpt questioned whether paradise was a "brothel?" according to the indictment." Paradise without a drink isn't paradise, broski. Allah (smh) and The Prophet (AMBER) promised me better than that.MrPraline

Good thing he didn't insult Ataturk. That's be a much worse insult to Turks. Oh well. And people complain about how bad it is in the U.S.

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#8 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

Islam is sh*t

PWSteal_Ldpinch
I agree with this sentiment.

word allah (nsfw) could've made a better religion
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allah (nsfw)MrPraline

BAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA

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And they want to join the European Union. :lol:
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[QUOTE="PWSteal_Ldpinch"][QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

Islam is sh*t

MrPraline
I agree with this sentiment.

word allah (nsfw) could've made a better religion

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[QUOTE="PWSteal_Ldpinch"][QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

Islam is sh*t

MrPraline

I agree with this sentiment.

word allah (nsfw) could've made a better religion

I could've made a better religion, sheeeeeeeeit.

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#13 MAZ85
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there is no alcoholic beverages in hell
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there is no alcoholic beverages in hell MAZ85
so heaven has a monopoly on them?
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there is no alcoholic beverages in hell MAZ85
There are but you're always the designated driver.

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#16 Crunchy_Nuts
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Turkey looks good on the surface.
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[QUOTE="MAZ85"]there is no alcoholic beverages in hell toast_burner

There are but you're always the designated driver.

so muslim women can finally drive in the afterlife? what a progressive religion! the prophet (saw I, II, III) was right after all.
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Turkey has serious problems with free speech. IIRC, insulting Ataturk is considered a crime.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="MAZ85"]there is no alcoholic beverages in hell MrPraline

There are but you're always the designated driver.

so muslim women can finally drive in the afterlife? what a progressive religion! the prophet (saw I, II, III) was right after all.

Depends. If they died virgins then they'll be slaves for eternity.
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]There are but you're always the designated driver.Crunchy_Nuts
so muslim women can finally drive in the afterlife? what a progressive religion! the prophet (saw I, II, III) was right after all.

Depends. If they died virgins then they'll be slaves for eternity.

sad :{
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hope achmed, omar, hassan and farid enjoy the WoW connoisseurs then
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hope achmed, omar, hassan and farid enjoy the WoW connoisseurs thenMrPraline
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmN2cVOr5W4
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"]hope achmed, omar, hassan and farid enjoy the WoW connoisseurs thenBossPerson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmN2cVOr5W4

LOL HERE I AM
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Uh oh, some dude insulted Islam again.

Somebody issue a Fatwa, this is a religious emergency!

:roll:

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#25 MrPraline
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Uh oh, some dude insulted Islam again.

Somebody issue a Fatwa, this is a religious emergency!

:roll:

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allah (acab) is not a big fan of critics apparently
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Don't trust any religion with a pedophile as the founder.

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Don't trust any religion with a pedophile as the founder.

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mhm muhammed (cps) liked them young
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Muslims need to stop being so sensitive.
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This boys and girls is a good demonstration of why separation of church and state is a pretty swell thing.
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there is no alcoholic beverages in hell MAZ85
But there is .... in most turkey restaurant (including moslem owner) for most secular turks..... beer is Halal
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#31 Darkman2007
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Turkey has serious problems with free speech. IIRC, insulting Ataturk is considered a crime.

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its a bit of a paradox though , on the one hand Turkey is one of the most free countries in the Middle East (I know sometimes Turkey likes to pretend its in Europe , but lets be honest, its as much in the Middle East) , but they also have serious problems with things like this.
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[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

Islam is sh*t

PWSteal_Ldpinch

I agree with this sentiment.

YEAH!:lol:

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Turkey has serious problems with free speech. IIRC, insulting Ataturk is considered a crime.

Darkman2007

its a bit of a paradox though , on the one hand Turkey is one of the most free countries in the Middle East (I know sometimes Turkey likes to pretend its in Europe , but lets be honest, its as much in the Middle East) , but they also have serious problems with things like this.

Not being the worst doesn't make you good.

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This boys and girls is a good demonstration of why separation of church and state is a pretty swell thing.Ace6301
seperation of religion and state is not something that is exactly abound in this region , for both political and cultural reasons. ie, don't count on any country in this region to suddenly become liberal.
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Wirds hurt.
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Durka durka

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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Turkey has serious problems with free speech. IIRC, insulting Ataturk is considered a crime.

toast_burner

its a bit of a paradox though , on the one hand Turkey is one of the most free countries in the Middle East (I know sometimes Turkey likes to pretend its in Europe , but lets be honest, its as much in the Middle East) , but they also have serious problems with things like this.

Not being the worst doesn't make you good.

UK recently jailed that woman who rant racism on the tram for 5 month, do you think that's justified? I'm not saying it's not justified, but at the same time, was it that bad and what would they charge her with? offensive speech?

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] its a bit of a paradox though , on the one hand Turkey is one of the most free countries in the Middle East (I know sometimes Turkey likes to pretend its in Europe , but lets be honest, its as much in the Middle East) , but they also have serious problems with things like this.Ncsoftlover

Not being the worst doesn't make you good.

UK recently jailed that woman who rant racism on the tram for 5 month, do you think that's justified? I'm not saying it's not justified, but at the same time, was it that bad and what would they charge her with? offensive speech?

Hate speech laws tie in closely with the public disturbance laws. She is allowed to be racist and say racist things, but when you harass other people and cause a stir that could spark violence, then it is illegal.

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[QUOTE="MAZ85"]there is no alcoholic beverages in hell hippiesanta
But there is .... in most turkey restaurant (including moslem owner) for most secular turks..... beer is Halal

warm beer?

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Islam ?

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[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Not being the worst doesn't make you good.

toast_burner

UK recently jailed that woman who rant racism on the tram for 5 month, do you think that's justified? I'm not saying it's not justified, but at the same time, was it that bad and what would they charge her with? offensive speech?

Hate speech laws tie in closely with the public disturbance laws. She is allowed to be racist and say racist things, but when you harass other people and cause a stir that could spark violence, then it is illegal.

yeah, I kind of see it now, I guess it's more in line with the executing gays leaflet case, but I still think the line can be blurry at times, you can't easily distinguish between speech within your rights and speech that's hateful and may cause public disturbance, I mean, if you're going to make a speech/opinion, it's often made to the public, I think there's up and downs with hate speech laws, I guess there's no better way around it.

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#42 quebec946
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why are muslims so hardcore religious?

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Well at least there hasn't been a fatwa issued demanding his assassination. #Progress
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"]This boys and girls is a good demonstration of why separation of church and state is a pretty swell thing.Darkman2007
seperation of religion and state is not something that is exactly abound in this region , for both political and cultural reasons. ie, don't count on any country in this region to suddenly become liberal.

I'm aware of that. It's an unfortunate state of affairs.
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#45 WeepsForFools
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Could they be any pettier? Nope. They have nothing better to do but cry and b!tch because someone says anything remotely negative about them or their practice, pathetic. Insecure sheep.
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God bless the AKP. Hate speech != Free speech
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#47 Jebus213
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why are muslims so hardcore religious?

quebec946
Never understood why they get offended so easily.
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[QUOTE="quebec946"]

why are muslims so hardcore religious?

Jebus213
Never understood why they get offended so easily.

Insecure, if they thought their religion was truly "the way" they would not care what others thought, they have to continually find reasons justify their beliefs.
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rofl
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[QUOTE="quebec946"]

why are muslims so hardcore religious?

Jebus213
Never understood why they get offended so easily.

Because they think Westerners want them dead......