@vfibsux said:
@GazaAli said:
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@Nibroc420 said:
Looks like the Western media is trying it's hardest to spin this into an anti-Russia thing.
I wish people would stop falling for the propaganda.
Bad troll!
Nope so far from what I am hearing from my cousin a large part of the Ukraine military is siding with Russia about 70% in Crimea are applying for Russian passports and posts in the Russian army the rest are leaving on busses, they're also refusing to hand over arms to this militia the interim government are training.
Reports are also coming out that large portions of the Ukrainian and Tartar did actually vote despite what some would have Us believe.
Also expect more referendums as large parts of the east are really starting to kick off.
Could you provide any sources for your claims?
Because his cousin, not that what he's saying is necessarily wrong, or right for that matter.
Of course he could be right, just this whole "my cousin said so" thing to legitimize your point is silly. If this guy was not tossing around Russian propaganda like a salad in this thread I would give him an ounce of credibility.
The western media may have some spin to it but at least it is privately owned, for the most part. I will trust western media over Russian state run media any day.
You're deeply mistaken. Western media is just as bad as Russian state-owned media, it just hides behind the facade of being "privately owned". Fox is privately owned, by the republicans that is, and NBC is privately owned, by the democrats that is. The rest can be said about Europe's privately owned media outlets but to a lesser extent I think. I've always held the belief that free, neutral, nonpartisan media is a myth, but I was still willing to somewhat accept that western media is still somehow better. However, it was quite the scene seeing how the entire American media establishment went ballistic and bat shit crazy after the developments in the Ukraine-Crimea. None of them managed to stay on topic. Instead, they decided to launch an all war on Putin the person and Russians along the way. Throughout the past few days I've read a substantial number of reports from Politico, CNN, NBC among others, they were grotesquely pathetic. Suddenly, they all got an influx of reporters and journalists who "had the rare opportunity to personally spend some time with Putin in year xxxx". They went on and on about the egotistical Putin, the insecure Putin, the corrupt Putin, the troubled Putin, Russians the racists, Russians the homophobic...etc.When you deviate from the actual situation and start attacking persons and stereotyping people, it becomes propaganda plain and simple.
Western media has proved to be able to maintain a semblance or a facade of journalistic integrity and neutrality, as long as circumstances are comfy enough and as long as the abandonment of these does not serve a purpose . Its privately owned as long as it serves the ideological and partisan interests of those who own it. When things go south, they reveal their true color which is really inline with those widely derided media outlets out there, including RT. Before you try to twist my words, this is not a defence on behalf of Russia or anything, its rather the perspective that the world is a bad place where no one gets to claim the moral high ground or contend the claim that he is ethically superior in any way you could think of.
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