Ultimate NObama Thread

Post any thing that you think obama has done wrong, has wrong with his policy or anything else that you think is bad about Obama, except his that he is black or that his middle name is hussain because that is stupid.

Please refrain from posting an endless post, comminting on Obama near endless stupidity. I guess if you want to try to refute the facts about Obama I would love to see it, and then I hope you learn that you were wrong for supporting Obama in the first Place.

I will start Obama is an Idiot because his tax policy that he claims will only raise taxes for the 250K+ will end the bush tax cuts raisng income tax for everyone paying income tax already, and he will raise corprate tax that is already the 2nd highest in the world, and that will hurt the economy, and raise everyother tax the federal goverment has, again hurting the economy. Telling people one thing then doing another, come on now, Thats not change, that more of the Same. NObama 08

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/obama-fannie-mae-freddie-mac-campaign-contributions-mortgage-crisis-lobbyists-truth-about-obama-more-obama-lies/

Now we learn
that Obama was the third highest recipient of campaign contributions
from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that have just been bailed out
by the government. Here are the top recipients of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, 1989-2008:

Name
Office
Party/State
Total

1. Dodd, Christopher J
S
D-CT
$133,900

2. Kerry, John
S
D-MA
$111,000

3. Obama, Barack
S
D-IL
$105,849

Ya sure looks like a guy thats going to make a CHANGE...

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/obama-fannie-mae-freddie-mac-campaign-contributions-mortgage-crisis-lobbyists-truth-about-obama-more-obama-lies/

Now we learn
that Obama was the third highest recipient of campaign contributions
from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that have just been bailed out
by the government. Here are the top recipients of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, 1989-2008:

Name
Office
Party/State
Total

1. Dodd, Christopher J
S
D-CT
$133,900

2. Kerry, John
S
D-MA
$111,000

3. Obama, Barack
S
D-IL
$105,849

Ya sure looks like a guy thats going to make a CHANGE...

DanBrim1

Also on the most recent list Obama moved to #2, and he has the former CEO for Freddie Mac as an economic adviser.

I'm probably going to vote for Obama, but he really dissapointed me by supporting this wall street bailout.

btw I like your sig, DanBrim

I'm probably going to vote for Obama, but he really dissapointed me by supporting this wall street bailout.

btw I like your sig, DanBrim

Palax

All I will say is: ACORNStevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Palax"]

I'm probably going to vote for Obama, but he really dissapointed me by supporting this wall street bailout.

btw I like your sig, DanBrim

Jacobistheman

I'm confused as to why both candidates supported the bailout....this is a very socialist move and John McCain is supposed to be the republican against big gov't....Most Americans were against this bill, but yet both candidates supported it :|

Post any thing that you think obama has done wrong, has wrong with his policy or anything else that you think is bad about Obama, except his that he is black or that his middle name is hussain because that is stupid.

Please refrain from posting an endless post, comminting on Obama near endless stupidity. I guess if you want to try to refute the facts about Obama I would love to see it, and then I hope you learn that you were wrong for supporting Obama in the first Place.

I will start Obama is an Idiot because his tax policy that he claims will only raise taxes for the 250K+ will end the bush tax cuts raisng income tax for everyone paying income tax already, and he will raise corprate tax that is already the 2nd highest in the world, and that will hurt the economy, and raise everyother tax the federal goverment has, again hurting the economy. Telling people one thing then doing another, come on now, Thats not change, that more of the Same. NObama 08

Jacobistheman

Obama's no idiot, neither is McCain. Many economists agree that only 5% of American's would have a tax increase under his plan. Our corporate tax is currently 2nd in the world, but at the low end when you figure in the breaks they get to write off. You talk of hurting the economy, how much have these massive tax cuts we've had the last 6 years helped? Lowest job growth in 60 years, lowest income increases for workers vs. inflation ever, health care costs 4X more in 8 years for most families. Why don't you and all the people who "hate" one candidate or the other really look at their stances on issues and see what experts in those fields say about them.

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/obama-fannie-mae-freddie-mac-campaign-contributions-mortgage-crisis-lobbyists-truth-about-obama-more-obama-lies/

Now we learn
that Obama was the third highest recipient of campaign contributions
from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that have just been bailed out
by the government. Here are the top recipients of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, 1989-2008:

Name
Office
Party/State
Total

1. Dodd, Christopher J
S
D-CT
$133,900

2. Kerry, John
S
D-MA
$111,000

3. Obama, Barack
S
D-IL
$105,849

Ya sure looks like a guy thats going to make a CHANGE...

DanBrim1

I thought it was second? But the thing is he has received more contributions from Fannie Mae in 4 years than any other Senator has in 20 years.

I also don't understand how he thinks corporations aren't going to outsource when he is going to raise the already ridiculously high taxes on them.

[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"]

Post any thing that you think obama has done wrong, has wrong with his policy or anything else that you think is bad about Obama, except his that he is black or that his middle name is hussain because that is stupid.

Please refrain from posting an endless post, comminting on Obama near endless stupidity. I guess if you want to try to refute the facts about Obama I would love to see it, and then I hope you learn that you were wrong for supporting Obama in the first Place.

I will start Obama is an Idiot because his tax policy that he claims will only raise taxes for the 250K+ will end the bush tax cuts raisng income tax for everyone paying income tax already, and he will raise corprate tax that is already the 2nd highest in the world, and that will hurt the economy, and raise everyother tax the federal goverment has, again hurting the economy. Telling people one thing then doing another, come on now, Thats not change, that more of the Same. NObama 08

btaylor2404

Obama's no idiot, neither is McCain. Many economists agree that only 5% of American's would have a tax increase under his plan. Our corporate tax is currently 2nd in the world, but at the low end when you figure in the breaks they get to write off. You talk of hurting the economy, how much have these massive tax cuts we've had the last 6 years helped? Lowest job growth in 60 years, lowest income increases for workers vs. inflation ever, health care costs 4X more in 8 years for most families. Why don't you and all the people who "hate" one candidate or the other really look at their stances on issues and see what experts in those fields say about them.

Also over the last 8 years the economy has grown a lot more under Bush than under 8 years of Clinton, despite the 9/11 attacks that killed our economy, the recession that we were going into in 2000 and 2001 that lower taxes stoped, and the crash of the morgage market, that is rooted in the 1990s, and which Bush, and Mccain wrote bills to try to stop that were voted down.

[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"][QUOTE="Palax"]

I'm probably going to vote for Obama, but he really dissapointed me by supporting this wall street bailout.

btw I like your sig, DanBrim

Palax

I'm confused as to why both candidates supported the bailout....this is a very socialist move and John McCain is supposed to be the republican against big gov't....Most Americans were against this bill, but yet both candidates supported it :|

[QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="Jacobistheman"][QUOTE="Palax"]

I'm probably going to vote for Obama, but he really dissapointed me by supporting this wall street bailout.

btw I like your sig, DanBrim

Jacobistheman

I'm confused as to why both candidates supported the bailout....this is a very socialist move and John McCain is supposed to be the republican against big gov't....Most Americans were against this bill, but yet both candidates supported it :|

both of them went alont with it because the government didn't have any better ideas...pretty sad, considering the bailout will de-value the dollar to an extent never seen before

[QUOTE="btaylor2404"][QUOTE="Jacobistheman"]

Post any thing that you think obama has done wrong, has wrong with his policy or anything else that you think is bad about Obama, except his that he is black or that his middle name is hussain because that is stupid.

Please refrain from posting an endless post, comminting on Obama near endless stupidity. I guess if you want to try to refute the facts about Obama I would love to see it, and then I hope you learn that you were wrong for supporting Obama in the first Place.

I will start Obama is an Idiot because his tax policy that he claims will only raise taxes for the 250K+ will end the bush tax cuts raisng income tax for everyone paying income tax already, and he will raise corprate tax that is already the 2nd highest in the world, and that will hurt the economy, and raise everyother tax the federal goverment has, again hurting the economy. Telling people one thing then doing another, come on now, Thats not change, that more of the Same. NObama 08

Jacobistheman

Obama's no idiot, neither is McCain. Many economists agree that only 5% of American's would have a tax increase under his plan. Our corporate tax is currently 2nd in the world, but at the low end when you figure in the breaks they get to write off. You talk of hurting the economy, how much have these massive tax cuts we've had the last 6 years helped? Lowest job growth in 60 years, lowest income increases for workers vs. inflation ever, health care costs 4X more in 8 years for most families. Why don't you and all the people who "hate" one candidate or the other really look at their stances on issues and see what experts in those fields say about them.

Also over the last 8 years the economy has grown a lot more under Bush than under 8 years of Clinton, despite the 9/11 attacks that killed our economy, the recession that we were going into in 2000 and 2001 that lower taxes stoped, and the crash of the morgage market, that is rooted in the 1990s, and which Bush, and Mccain wrote bills to try to stop that were voted down.

Are you serious? As I said corporate taxes are a wash because of the write offs. Capital gains don't need to be as high as he wants them, but we do need an increase there. And the economy growing more over the last 8 years is just insane. I'll post a non-partisan link if I have the time to find it again. Mortgage crisis is partly Clinton's fault, but it's Bush who started the term "ownership society" everyone should have a house.

He's the lesser of two idiots...nuff said.jointed

So true...

[QUOTE="jointed"]He's the lesser of two idiots...nuff said.Dunkonya

So true...

That seems to be the United States Presidential Candidates Motto as of recent years, hasn't it?

Oh man, this is all so amusing to watch from a Canadian perspective. No one cares about our election. Not even us :|

He hasn't made a big enough issue of McCain being in bed with the lobbists and McCain's own assertions that he knows nothing about the economy when we are facing one of the biggest economic crisis of our time.

I also think its disgraceful how Obama has decided not to bring to the forefront Palin and her husband's links to the Alaskan Independence Party, who have declared their hatred for America.

You disappoint me greatly Mr Obama.

His tax cuts are just going to be trouble, and he agreed for the bailout plan. If Obama screws over the US, than I can just sit back in Canada and watch the fire burn. McCain is clearly better than Obama, but some people don't see that yet.Vilot_Hero

What he did wrong?

Where to start?

Seriously, my brain is overloading.

of course this poll is a bit off, as you can see there are far fewer republicans than democrats polled, however if you look at the independents almost all of them are for obama.

How he didn't vote on the GI bill. Oh wait that was McCain.MrArmageddon8

I could have sworn that McCain voted against that because it included a timetable for the war.

[QUOTE="MrArmageddon8"]How he didn't vote on the GI bill. Oh wait that was McCain.Zentrenius

I could have sworn that McCain voted against that because it included a timetable for the war.

I am highly against Obama's socialist tendencies and mesmerizing everyone into loving the nanny state. It's ludicrous, in my opinion the smaller the government is and less bureaucracy we have, the more liberty I feel. Less is more as they say...

I should note that McCain is also a NO go in my book. He is every bit as crappy of a candidate as Obama but in different ways.

[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"][QUOTE="Palax"]

I'm probably going to vote for Obama, but he really dissapointed me by supporting this wall street bailout.

btw I like your sig, DanBrim

Palax

I'm confused as to why both candidates supported the bailout....this is a very socialist move and John McCain is supposed to be the republican against big gov't....Most Americans were against this bill, but yet both candidates supported it :|

So nobody can agree on anything anymore?

Post any thing that you think obama has done wrong, has wrong with his policy or anything else that you think is bad about Obama, except his that he is black or that his middle name is hussain because that is stupid.

Please refrain from posting an endless post, comminting on Obama near endless stupidity. I guess if you want to try to refute the facts about Obama I would love to see it, and then I hope you learn that you were wrong for supporting Obama in the first Place.

I will start Obama is an Idiot because his tax policy that he claims will only raise taxes for the 250K+ will end the bush tax cuts raisng income tax for everyone paying income tax already, and he will raise corprate tax that is already the 2nd highest in the world, and that will hurt the economy, and raise everyother tax the federal goverment has, again hurting the economy. Telling people one thing then doing another, come on now, Thats not change, that more of the Same. NObama 08

Jacobistheman

lol

i saw a bumper sticker last night that said "NObama" on it.

His tax cuts are just going to be trouble, and he agreed for the bailout plan. If Obama screws over the US, than I can just sit back in Canada and watch the fire burn. McCain is clearly better than Obama, but some people don't see that yet.Vilot_Hero

Tax cuts? You mean like the tax cuts McCain proposes?

McCain voted YES on the bailout plan. He even suspended his campaign to go to Washington to get it past! Typical looking at an issue with one eye closed.

[QUOTE="Dunkonya"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]He's the lesser of two idiots...nuff said.SlorgieNel

So true...

That seems to be the United States Presidential Candidates Motto as of recent years, hasn't it?

Oh man, this is all so amusing to watch from a Canadian perspective. No one cares about our election. Not even us :|

I know what you mean...:|

All I can say is McCains head looks like a potatoaaronmullan

this post is full of WIN!

Some food for thought for McCain supporters-

On the Iraq war-

2002- "I believe we will can win an overwhelming victory in a very very short period of time."

Jan. 2007- "Americans were led to believe that this would be some kind of day at the beach, which many of us fully understand that this would be a very very difficult undertaking."

Straight talk John?

Here is some more John McCain "flip-flops"-

Flip flopping on the bailout-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWI35eNnDOw

Flip-flopping on torture bill-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWJXvWNoRwM

Flip-flopping on religious right-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbrejLsixwk

Flip-flopping on ethanol right before he ran in Iowa (Iowa produces a large amount of ethanol from corn)-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT3q3PVZ_ck&feature=related

Flip-flopping on tax cuts-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYsKiA3Myyw&feature=related

Flip-flopping on gay marriage-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeBw28tX5Nw&feature=related

Flip-flopping on ethics reform-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CZLTFvMM_E&feature=related

He even flip-flops on his view of the Confederate flag-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN8EMmML-es&feature=related

This are just the ones I could scrounge up in 10 minutes. Who is willingly to bet there's a hell of a lot more?

Each one of these issues he has flip-flopped on he has done so to gear up for his campaign. He took a stance in 2000, ran and loss. Now starting in 2006 he began to change his mind....A LOT.

Well the fact that I disagree with him on alot of things, oh and he calls himself religious to gain votes, Biggest hypocriteever.ferrari2001

All politicians do this. Including McCain

You shouldn't vote for Obama for President because he's a politican. If we wanted somebody to be reasonable and work our way out of this mess, a politician is the last kind of person we'd want to be in charge of that. You also shouldn't vote for McCain for that reason.

Vote for me. Trust me, I'm good.

What annoys me is how some people get so into this election, they forget that both candidates have good and bad qualities. But we get so caught up in the smearing, we convince ourselves that the candidate we don't like has absolutely NO redeeming qualities, and that he is the anti-Christ or something. Seriously, I'm sure that no matter who gets elected, the new president will NOT destroy our country.pyromaniac223

Some food for thought for McCain supporters-

On the Iraq war-

2002- "I believe we will can win an overwhelming victory in a very very short period of time."

Jan. 2007- "Americans were led to believe that this would be some kind of day at the beach, which many of us fully understand that this would be a very very difficult undertaking."

Straight talk John?

Here is some more John McCain "flip-flops"-

Flip flopping on the bailout-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWI35eNnDOw

Flip-flopping on torture bill-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWJXvWNoRwM

Flip-flopping on religious right-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbrejLsixwk

Flip-flopping on ethanol right before he ran in Iowa (Iowa produces a large amount of ethanol from corn)-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT3q3PVZ_ck&feature=related

Flip-flopping on tax cuts-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYsKiA3Myyw&feature=related

Flip-flopping on gay marriage-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeBw28tX5Nw&feature=related

Flip-flopping on ethics reform-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CZLTFvMM_E&feature=related

He even flip-flops on his view of the Confederate flag-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN8EMmML-es&feature=related

This are just the ones I could scrounge up in 10 minutes. Who is willingly to bet there's a hell of a lot more?

Each one of these issues he has flip-flopped on he has done so to gear up for his campaign. He took a stance in 2000, ran and loss. Now starting in 2006 he began to change his mind....A LOT.

mfacek

Everything is wrong with Obama. bungie93