Unbelievable Ancient Structures article

An interesting reading. Let your minds be open.

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2011/08/6_ancient_things_that_were_probably_built_by_alien.php

What is OT's obsession with this stupid ancient alien bs?

Hmm...intriguing

What is OT's obsession with this stupid ancient alien bs?

majoras_wrath

Hmm...intriguing

CHOASXIII

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]

What is OT's obsession with this stupid ancient alien bs?

MushroomWig

There is a show called, "Ancient Aliens" on History Channel and this weird guy is one of the supposed experts.

[QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

Hmm...intriguing

majoras_wrath

Me too.

>There is a show called, "Ancient Aliens" on History Channel and this weird guy is one of the supposed experts.

CHOASXIII

I had to laugh, yeah out of all the "experts", the dude with the spray-on tan and the electrified hair always got a laugh from me. Wait I sense one coming right now, here it comes :lol:

its on rite nao!!! u guys got an ancient responsibility to to watch it and please our alien overlords!!!!!!!1!1!11010101010

Jesus was an alien

So it's not even possible that ancient people had help moving blocks 800 tons each and 290 feet long? I mean until we figure out what techniques they used, it's pretty much anything is possible at the moment.

So it's not even possible that ancient people had help moving blocks 800 tons each and 290 feet long? I mean until we figure out what techniques they used, it's pretty much anything is possible at the moment.

Morphic

[QUOTE="Morphic"]

So it's not even possible that ancient people had help moving blocks 800 tons each and 290 feet long? I mean until we figure out what techniques they used, it's pretty much anything is possible at the moment.

Commander-Gree

im pretty sure these techneques of building the known wonders of the world are well documented at the moment, but like you said its the motivation that actually makes ancient civilizations bother to learn on their own.

[QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]>There is a show called, "Ancient Aliens" on History Channel and this weird guy is one of the supposed experts.

MushroomWig

It's on netflix. I like the show :P

You all need to take a chill pill. Having his article dismissed just because it has the word alien in it is quite unfair.

How would you like it if your idea was dismissed (as it should be) because one doesn't consider aliens as a possibility?

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]

[QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]>There is a show called, "Ancient Aliens" on History Channel and this weird guy is one of the supposed experts.

catfishmoon23

It's on netflix. I like the show :P

So it's not even possible that ancient people had help moving blocks 800 tons each and 290 feet long? I mean until we figure out what techniques they used, it's pretty much anything is possible at the moment.

Morphic

Lots of manpower and as was already said, motivation.

If those structures were built by ancient people, that's pretty cool. If they were indeed built by aliens, considering their superior technology, that's pretty pathetic.

[QUOTE="Morphic"]

So it's not even possible that ancient people had help moving blocks 800 tons each and 290 feet long? I mean until we figure out what techniques they used, it's pretty much anything is possible at the moment.

OrlandoEngelaar

Lots of manpower and as was already said, motivation.

There are plenty of ancient structures on this planet that simply couldn't have been achieved using mass manpower and the technology that current mainstream historians attribute to ancient man. Granite and diorite blocks weighing between 600 and 1200 tons, apparently lifted anywhere from 10 to 50 feet into the air in some of these structures. Oftentimes they are machined to a level of precision that we struggle to master with modern technology. If it seems impossible that people thousands of years ago with a few pullies and chisels could've done the work, then it probably is. That's the simplest answer. I know several engineers and architects who have watched ancient aliens and read other material on this subject, and they agree that in the real world it's 99.9999999% impossible that some of these feats could've been achieved with any level of technology or manpower known to be available prior to the 20th century. There are lots of theories and explanations given by mainstream archeologists who have little or no hands-on experience with construction. Those people aren't even qualified to speak on the subject of how it was even logistically possible to build such structures with the precision and detail that we see, and with the types of rock that were used. That article doesn't even mention some of the most impressive structures that are out there.

Bottom line is this- When you look at the roots of religions around the world, the complexity and scale of ancient monolithic strucutures (and often the passed-down stories regarding their construction), the overall theme that humans were created by visitors from the heavens that's present in almost all ancient cultures, and modern UFO/alien stories, there is only 1 conclusion that covers all the bases. That is Ancient Astronaut theory.

The evidence is there.

-Physical structures that we sometimes couldn't even build today. You can't use mass manpower as an explanation because in many cases you couldn't fit nearly enough people around such monolithic blocks of stone to be able to budge them. That doesn't even account for the process of quarrying and moving the stones to the building sites, and then lifting them stories-high into position.

-Remains of giants such as described in the Bible and other, even more ancient texts

-Millennia-old paintings and sculptures of humanoid beings in space suits and/or flying craft

-Multiple ancient texts that correlate the evidence for ancient atomic war on this planet brought about by visitors from space (Mohenjo-Daro is one such site). When you look at the evidence from Mohenjo Daro, the only explanation available is that an atomic device of some kind detonated there thousands of years ago. The data is there, the ruins are there with the vitrification, the radiation readings are there.. the people are there lying in the streets. At least one author even thinks he has the blast center pegged.

-Paintings from as early as 800-900 AD depicting UFOs overflying important events. There are literally dozens of paintings like this. Not only do they have UFOs, but sometimes humanoid beings flying the craft.

It's well past time to really open our eyes to what's been laid out for us to see.

If those structures were built by ancient people, that's pretty cool. If they were indeed built by aliens, considering their superior technology, that's pretty pathetic.

Blaze787

Why is it pathetic? Because they used stone? It lasts a heck of a lot longer than the materials that we're using today.

[QUOTE="Blaze787"]

If those structures were built by ancient people, that's pretty cool. If they were indeed built by aliens, considering their superior technology, that's pretty pathetic.

hartsickdiscipl

Why is it pathetic? Because they used stone? It lasts a heck of a lot longer than the materials that we're using today.

wow some are plane idiots that joke on past time structrures built then, seems like you can never win withOT fact or not this show is bringing new light in to stuff and moste of it is all fact!

[QUOTE="Blaze787"]

If those structures were built by ancient people, that's pretty cool. If they were indeed built by aliens, considering their superior technology, that's pretty pathetic.

hartsickdiscipl

Why is it pathetic? Because they used stone? It lasts a heck of a lot longer than the materials that we're using today.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Blaze787"]

If those structures were built by ancient people, that's pretty cool. If they were indeed built by aliens, considering their superior technology, that's pretty pathetic.

Nibroc420

Why is it pathetic? Because they used stone? It lasts a heck of a lot longer than the materials that we're using today.

Needless to say that if extraterrestrials advanced enough to make it across space did come to Earth, they would have advanced electronics and materials. However, that doesn't mean that they would use such materials for all applications. That's not even getting into the fact that most Ancient Astronaut theorists that I'm familiar with actually believe that humans were primarily responsible for the hands-on work at monolithic sites. Aliens are given credit for the engineering, providing tools, and giving instruction. If they (aliens) did engineer mankind to help in their efforts to mine for gold, as is the tradition in some ancient writings, they clearly intended to use humans to do the hard labor. There's no reason to believe that they would've done any differently when buliding monolithic structures. Plus there is this- Earth wasn't their home planet. Earth was the site of a mission.. a mission for which the visitors had already brought the technology needed. They weren't looking to do a full-scale colonization of the Earth. When you look at it this way, it makes more sense that they used monolithic stone construction for their bases of operation and other projects here. They would've known that granite and diorite will last for many thousands of years. According to some translations of ancient Sumerian texts, the Anunnaki were here for many thousands of years before their mission was "complete." What I'm saying is this- They didn't need (or intend) to reproduce their level of technology on a large scale here on Earth, and then leave it. What we find today are the structures that they created or oversaw the creation of... structures that are made of stone, and are very appopriate for their purposes.

What we find today are the structures that they created or oversaw the creation of... structures that are made of stone, and are very appopriate for their purposes.

hartsickdiscipl

[QUOTE="OrlandoEngelaar"]

[QUOTE="Morphic"]

So it's not even possible that ancient people had help moving blocks 800 tons each and 290 feet long? I mean until we figure out what techniques they used, it's pretty much anything is possible at the moment.

hartsickdiscipl

Lots of manpower and as was already said, motivation.

There are plenty of ancient structures on this planet that simply couldn't have been achieved using mass manpower and the technology that current mainstream historians attribute to ancient man. Granite and diorite blocks weighing between 600 and 1200 tons, apparently lifted anywhere from 10 to 50 feet into the air in some of these structures. Oftentimes they are machined to a level of precision that we struggle to master with modern technology. If it seems impossible that people thousands of years ago with a few pullies and chisels could've done the work, then it probably is. That's the simplest answer. I know several engineers and architects who have watched ancient aliens and read other material on this subject, and they agree that in the real world it's 99.9999999% impossible that some of these feats could've been achieved with any level of technology or manpower known to be available prior to the 20th century. There are lots of theories and explanations given by mainstream archeologists who have little or no hands-on experience with construction. Those people aren't even qualified to speak on the subject of how it was even logistically possible to build such structures with the precision and detail that we see, and with the types of rock that were used. That article doesn't even mention some of the most impressive structures that are out there.

Bottom line is this- When you look at the roots of religions around the world, the complexity and scale of ancient monolithic strucutures (and often the passed-down stories regarding their construction), the overall theme that humans were created by visitors from the heavens that's present in almost all ancient cultures, and modern UFO/alien stories, there is only 1 conclusion that covers all the bases. That is Ancient Astronaut theory.

The evidence is there.

-Physical structures that we sometimes couldn't even build today. You can't use mass manpower as an explanation because in many cases you couldn't fit nearly enough people around such monolithic blocks of stone to be able to budge them. That doesn't even account for the process of quarrying and moving the stones to the building sites, and then lifting them stories-high into position.

-Remains of giants such as described in the Bible and other, even more ancient texts

-Millennia-old paintings and sculptures of humanoid beings in space suits and/or flying craft

-Multiple ancient texts that correlate the evidence for ancient atomic war on this planet brought about by visitors from space (Mohenjo-Daro is one such site). When you look at the evidence from Mohenjo Daro, the only explanation available is that an atomic device of some kind detonated there thousands of years ago. The data is there, the ruins are there with the vitrification, the radiation readings are there.. the people are there lying in the streets. At least one author even thinks he has the blast center pegged.

-Paintings from as early as 800-900 AD depicting UFOs overflying important events. There are literally dozens of paintings like this. Not only do they have UFOs, but sometimes humanoid beings flying the craft.

It's well past time to really open our eyes to what's been laid out for us to see.

So it's not even possible that ancient people had help moving blocks 800 tons each and 290 feet long? I mean until we figure out what techniques they used, it's pretty much anything is possible at the moment.

Morphic

So yeah...people are overlooking a major possibility. Maybe the aliens didn't do this, but this is actually PROOF OF GOD.

Anyway, I've said it before but I'll say it again. As far as pop culture is concerned, aliens are just gods for people who want to act like they're too grown up to believe in gods. We can all laugh our asses off at the dumbass ancient people who believed that lightning and earthquakes were caused by angry gods. Then we immediately see some buildings that we don't know how they were made, and say "aliens must have done it".

[QUOTE="Morphic"]

So it's not even possible that ancient people had help moving blocks 800 tons each and 290 feet long? I mean until we figure out what techniques they used, it's pretty much anything is possible at the moment.

MrGeezer

So yeah...people are overlooking a major possibility. Maybe the aliens didn't do this, but this is actually PROOF OF GOD.

Anyway, I've said it before but I'll say it again. As far as pop culture is concerned, aliens are just gods for people who want to act like they're too grown up to believe in gods. We can all laugh our asses off at the dumbass ancient people who believed that lightning and earthquakes were caused by angry gods. Then we immediately see some buildings that we don't know how they were made, and say "aliens must have done it".

and to the fun fact killer i believe in god , i believe these ancient aliens were and are fallen angles, witch the people of that time seen them as gods.

[QUOTE="Morphic"]

So it's not even possible that ancient people had help moving blocks 800 tons each and 290 feet long? I mean until we figure out what techniques they used, it's pretty much anything is possible at the moment.

MrGeezer

So yeah...people are overlooking a major possibility. Maybe the aliens didn't do this, but this is actually PROOF OF GOD.

Anyway, I've said it before but I'll say it again. As far as pop culture is concerned, aliens are just gods for people who want to act like they're too grown up to believe in gods. We can all laugh our asses off at the dumbass ancient people who believed that lightning and earthquakes were caused by angry gods. Then we immediately see some buildings that we don't know how they were made, and say "aliens must have done it".

When I look back at the roots of ancient religions around the world, the gods that they describe really do sound like aliens with advanced technology. I still believe in a supreme creator, but I also believe in the Ancient Astronaut theory. Unlike Giorgio Tsoukalos on Ancient Aliens, I realize that you can have humans basing their religions mainly off of experiences with physical E.T.'s, and still have "God." When people start trying to say that the concepts are somehow mutually exclusive, they're way off-base IMO. If you read some of the ancient Sumerian translations about the Anunnaki (those who from the heavens came), even they believed in a supreme creator. There was even a debate among these "Gods" about whether or not they were doing something against his will by engineering humans and populating the earth with them.

theory is a joke in it self, but this show is showing eveidence of somthing right in our face you cant denie that!

rooktook

It's showing us stuff that we don't currently know how it came to be.

And then it's saying, "we don't know how it happened, so aliens must have done it".

Again...that's no different than looking at a thunderstorm approaching and saying that someone must have made Zeus angry.

Maybe aliens did it, maybe they didn't. The thing is, the "alien theorists" aren't bringing anything to the table other than gut feelings and wild speculation. If it's so ****ing clear that aliens did this ****, then maybe they can start providing some actual SOLID EVIDENCE that stands up to critical scrutiny.

[QUOTE="Morphic"]

So it's not even possible that ancient people had help moving blocks 800 tons each and 290 feet long? I mean until we figure out what techniques they used, it's pretty much anything is possible at the moment.

MrGeezer

So yeah...people are overlooking a major possibility. Maybe the aliens didn't do this, but this is actually PROOF OF GOD.

Anyway, I've said it before but I'll say it again. As far as pop culture is concerned, aliens are just gods for people who want to act like they're too grown up to believe in gods. We can all laugh our asses off at the dumbass ancient people who believed that lightning and earthquakes were caused by angry gods. Then we immediately see some buildings that we don't know how they were made, and say "aliens must have done it".

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="Morphic"]

So it's not even possible that ancient people had help moving blocks 800 tons each and 290 feet long? I mean until we figure out what techniques they used, it's pretty much anything is possible at the moment.

hartsickdiscipl

So yeah...people are overlooking a major possibility. Maybe the aliens didn't do this, but this is actually PROOF OF GOD.

Anyway, I've said it before but I'll say it again. As far as pop culture is concerned, aliens are just gods for people who want to act like they're too grown up to believe in gods. We can all laugh our asses off at the dumbass ancient people who believed that lightning and earthquakes were caused by angry gods. Then we immediately see some buildings that we don't know how they were made, and say "aliens must have done it".

When I look back at the roots of ancient religions around the world, the gods that they describe really do sound like aliens with advanced technology. I still believe in a supreme creator, but I also believe in the Ancient Astronaut theory. Unlike Giorgio Tsoukalos on Ancient Aliens, I realize that you can have humans basing their religions mainly off of experiences with physical E.T.'s, and still have "God." When people start trying to say that the concepts are somehow mutually exclusive, they're way off-base IMO. If you read some of the ancient Sumerian translations about the Anunnaki (those who from the heavens came), even they believed in a supreme creator. There was even a debate among these "Gods" about whether or not they were doing something against his will by engineering humans and populating the earth with them.

Look dude...you can believe whatever you want to believe. You can believe that the Earth is flat, you can believe that the Earth is hollow, you can believe that President Obama is a Muslim, you can believe that the government of the USA orchestrated the 9/11 attacks...you can BELIEVE whatever the hell you want to believe.

But until you've got the solid evidence to back that **** up, then you don't have a leg to stand on.

[QUOTE="rooktook"]theory is a joke in it self, but this show is showing eveidence of somthing right in our face you cant denie that!

MrGeezer

It's showing us stuff that we don't currently know how it came to be.

And then it's saying, "we don't know how it happened, so aliens must have done it".

Again...that's no different than looking at a thunderstorm approaching and saying that someone must have made Zeus angry.

Maybe aliens did it, maybe they didn't. The thing is, the "alien theorists" aren't bringing anything to the table other than gut feelings and wild speculation. If it's so ****ing clear that aliens did this ****, then maybe they can start providing some actual SOLID EVIDENCE that stands up to critical scrutiny.

Based on your comment, I really don't think that you've delved very deeply into the data that's available. There are multiple ancient written records that detail the construction projects and wars of the "gods," and physical evidence to back it up. People just aren't connecting the dots. It's not that the evidence isn't there or isn't being presented.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="Morphic"]

So it's not even possible that ancient people had help moving blocks 800 tons each and 290 feet long? I mean until we figure out what techniques they used, it's pretty much anything is possible at the moment.

DigitalExile

So yeah...people are overlooking a major possibility. Maybe the aliens didn't do this, but this is actually PROOF OF GOD.

Anyway, I've said it before but I'll say it again. As far as pop culture is concerned, aliens are just gods for people who want to act like they're too grown up to believe in gods. We can all laugh our asses off at the dumbass ancient people who believed that lightning and earthquakes were caused by angry gods. Then we immediately see some buildings that we don't know how they were made, and say "aliens must have done it".

Except that it DOESN'T ANSWER ANYTHING.

Because even if you "explain" this kind of **** by saying "aliens that may not exist must have done it", then that still doesn't explain how it was done. It's merely appealing to a (possibly nonexistant) higher power in order to AVOID coming up with an explanation. It's fundamentally no different than seeing some weird **** and then having absolutely no interest whatsoever in discovering what happened. And instead dismissing the whole thing by shrugging your shoulders and saying, "who cares how it happened? It was probably magic or something."

[QUOTE="rooktook"]theory is a joke in it self, but this show is showing eveidence of somthing right in our face you cant denie that!

MrGeezer

It's showing us stuff that we don't currently know how it came to be.

And then it's saying, "we don't know how it happened, so aliens must have done it".

Again...that's no different than looking at a thunderstorm approaching and saying that someone must have made Zeus angry.

Maybe aliens did it, maybe they didn't. The thing is, the "alien theorists" aren't bringing anything to the table other than gut feelings and wild speculation. If it's so ****ing clear that aliens did this ****, then maybe they can start providing some actual SOLID EVIDENCE that stands up to critical scrutiny.

Except that it DOESN'T ANSWER ANYTHING.

Because even if you "explain" this kind of **** by saying "aliens that may not exist must have done it", then that still doesn't explain how it was done. It's merely appealing to a (possibly nonexistant) higher power in order to AVOID coming up with an explanation. It's fundamentally no different than seeing some weird **** and then having absolutely no interest whatsoever in discovering what happened. And instead dismissing the whole thing by shrugging your shoulders and saying, "who cares how it happened? It was probably magic or something."

MrGeezer

I know, it's a theory without hard evidence, but it's better than just sitting back and concluding "****ed if I know..."

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"] Here's the thing...notice how the prevailing "theory" right now is basically, "we don't know how it happened, so aliens did it". How is that fundamentally any different than the dumbass ancient people saying "god did it" whenever they saw something that THEY couldn't explain?

So yeah...people are overlooking a major possibility. Maybe the aliens didn't do this, but this is actually PROOF OF GOD.

Anyway, I've said it before but I'll say it again. As far as pop culture is concerned, aliens are just gods for people who want to act like they're too grown up to believe in gods. We can all laugh our asses off at the dumbass ancient people who believed that lightning and earthquakes were caused by angry gods. Then we immediately see some buildings that we don't know how they were made, and say "aliens must have done it".

MrGeezer

When I look back at the roots of ancient religions around the world, the gods that they describe really do sound like aliens with advanced technology. I still believe in a supreme creator, but I also believe in the Ancient Astronaut theory. Unlike Giorgio Tsoukalos on Ancient Aliens, I realize that you can have humans basing their religions mainly off of experiences with physical E.T.'s, and still have "God." When people start trying to say that the concepts are somehow mutually exclusive, they're way off-base IMO. If you read some of the ancient Sumerian translations about the Anunnaki (those who from the heavens came), even they believed in a supreme creator. There was even a debate among these "Gods" about whether or not they were doing something against his will by engineering humans and populating the earth with them.

Look dude...you can believe whatever you want to believe. You can believe that the Earth is flat, you can believe that the Earth is hollow, you can believe that President Obama is a Muslim, you can believe that the government of the USA orchestrated the 9/11 attacks...you can BELIEVE whatever the hell you want to believe.

But until you've got the solid evidence to back that **** up, then you don't have a leg to stand on.

I don't believe that the Earth is hollow or flat. I don't feel that I have sufficient reason to believe that Obama is a Muslim, nor do I care. I feel that I've seen sufficient evidence to suggest that some elements of the US government were at least aware of the 9/11 attacks, and may have played a part in them.

I'm much more sure that the basic tenets of the ancient astronaut theory are accurate than I am of any of the other things that you mentioned. The evidence strongly points that way. Whether you choose to accept the evidence as enough to convince you is your choice. Before you criticize and belittle relatively new ideas, I suggest you do the legwork first. Read a few of Sitchin's translations, read a few of Von Daniken's books, and watch all of the Ancient Aliens episodes. Then read the Bible and the Qur'an and tell me that the picture doesn't look like ancient astronaut theorists are on the right track. Listen to the legends and stories passed-down by Native Americans about the "star brothers," read about the physical descriptions of the pre-Incan God Viracocha, and compare it to the descriptions of the gods in the apocryphal book of Enoch and Sumerian texts.

Consider all forms of evidence.

Based on your comment, I really don't think that you've delved very deeply into the data that's available. There are multiple ancient written records that detail the construction projects and wars of the "gods," and physical evidence to back it up. People just aren't connecting the dots. It's not that the evidence isn't there or isn't being presented.

hartsickdiscipl

You can think whatever the hell you want, but you still haven't even demonstrated that interstellar space travel is even POSSIBLE for these supposed aliens/gods that you think have to exist because of some old-ass writings that you saw and almost certainly took out of context.

You're resorting to aliens as the only "explanation" for how this stuff could have happened, but you haven't even established that aliens could have done it.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Except that it DOESN'T ANSWER ANYTHING.

Because even if you "explain" this kind of **** by saying "aliens that may not exist must have done it", then that still doesn't explain how it was done. It's merely appealing to a (possibly nonexistant) higher power in order to AVOID coming up with an explanation. It's fundamentally no different than seeing some weird **** and then having absolutely no interest whatsoever in discovering what happened. And instead dismissing the whole thing by shrugging your shoulders and saying, "who cares how it happened? It was probably magic or something."

DigitalExile

I know, it's a theory without hard evidence, but it's better than just sitting back and concluding "****ed if I know..."

Wrong.

Saying "****ed if I know" is EXACTLY what people should be doing.

You hear some weird **** that you can't explain and say "It must be ghosts", you've just ELIMINATED all other possibilities. It might just be a broken radiator or something. Which you're never gonna find out about, because you start trying to solve the problem by hiring ghost hunters instead of simply asking a ****ing mechanic.

If you don't know, then you don't know. PRETENDING that you know because you're afraid of gaps in knowledge leads to LIMITING the opportunities to find out what the hell is really happening.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Based on your comment, I really don't think that you've delved very deeply into the data that's available. There are multiple ancient written records that detail the construction projects and wars of the "gods," and physical evidence to back it up. People just aren't connecting the dots. It's not that the evidence isn't there or isn't being presented.

MrGeezer

You can think whatever the hell you want, but you still haven't even demonstrated that interstellar space travel is even POSSIBLE for these supposed aliens/gods that you think have to exist because of some old-ass writings that you saw and almost certainly took out of context.

You're resorting to aliens as the only "explanation" for how this stuff could have happened, but you haven't even established that aliens could have done it.

You have to work backwards when it comes to this subject. That's how logical deduction works. You figure out what's not possible, and then you can figure out what the most likely explanation is. You oftentimes can't explain exactly how something happened, but you know that it's the best explanation because you know that the other possiblities really aren't possible. You figure out the details as you go.. like a police investigation. It really helps to have physical evidence and eyewitness testimony in such cases. We have both. You see.. I don't have to prove that interstellar travel or monolithic stone construction is possible for a proposed alien race visiting the Earth. Those ideas prove themselves in the process of deducing what didn't happen.

We know quite a bit about human capabilities. I hope we can agree on that. We should also know approximately what level of development and technology it takes to construct something. I can show that it's 99.999% impossible for a group of people with nothing more advanced than a wheel and pulley and a few chisels to construct something that we'd have trouble duplicating today. Once that's been shown, we have to look outside the box.

If I know that the people of the period all say that some type of advanced gods came down from the heavens and either created or instructed humans, I have to think that something like that probably happened. That gives me something to proceed with. From there I can try to figure out the details by looking at physical evidence and the finer points of the written and oral traditions passed-down. In some cases these same stories that are written or otherwise passed-down make it clear that certain monolithic structures were created or engineered by these gods. Now if I know humans, I know that they like to take credit for what they've accomplished. It's not consistent with human nature to build a monumental structure and then deny having built it.

i applase you!!! in the end the good old fashin bible will prove to be the word of god and ancient or future will not hold the word down

i applase you!!! in the end the good old fashin bible will prove to be the word of god and ancient or future will not hold the word down

rooktook

I believe that the Bible, the Torah, the Qur'an, the Bhagavad Gita, and various other ancient texts detailing human interactions with forces from the heavens are all "the word of God." I was raised as a very strict Christian, but have had to open my eyes to the bigger truths that link all of the big, ancient religions together. They're all telling the same or very similar stories from different points of view. Sometimes not much different at all. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all branched off from the same roots.

[QUOTE="rooktook"]

i applase you!!! in the end the good old fashin bible will prove to be the word of god and ancient or future will not hold the word down

hartsickdiscipl

I believe that the Bible, the Torah, the Qur'an, the Bhagavad Gita, and various other ancient texts detailing human interactions with forces from the heavens are all "the word of God." I was raised as a very strict Christian, but have had to open my eyes to the bigger truths that link all of the big, ancient religions together. They're all telling the same or very similar stories from different points of view. Sometimes not much different at all. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all branched off from the same roots.

[QUOTE="rooktook"]

i applase you!!! in the end the good old fashin bible will prove to be the word of god and ancient or future will not hold the word down

hartsickdiscipl

I believe that the Bible, the Torah, the Qur'an, the Bhagavad Gita, and various other ancient texts detailing human interactions with forces from the heavens are all "the word of God." I was raised as a very strict Christian, but have had to open my eyes to the bigger truths that link all of the big, ancient religions together. They're all telling the same or very similar stories from different points of view. Sometimes not much different at all. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all branched off from the same roots.