Under 20 year olds should not be able to have kids.

Iam fed up of seeing teenagers getting pregnant just because they can, when they are still growing up themselves, having one way too early and wasting some of their life away because of it. Why the hell would you want a child under the age of 20? You props be still in education and don't even a have a job to support the child. And props wont make good parents, seeing as they most likely be too soft on the child, so child will grow up to be a scumbag.

If I have it my way humans wont be able to procreate until at least the age of 24, and if a couple wants to have a child then they have to prove themselves worthy, then they would be allowed to take a drug that lets them procreate. This is good since you have responsible people having kids, instead of irresponsible parents who cant look after their kids so they end up being foster kids, and scumbags because mummy and daddy failed to be scrict and responisble, plus no child abuse. Also this will also decrease the population because child birth is controlled, instead of increasing an overpopulated planet.

I'm actually not really apposed to an age limit on having kids. It would solve both over population problems along with kids having kids which never ends well and just costs tax payer dollars when they end up on welfare. The issue though is can you force someone to have an abortion?

Well we can have a supression field like in Half-Life 2 where it makes humans unable to have kids, or force all females into taking a drug at a young age so that they wont be able to procreate, and the only way to be able to procreate again is to get a drug that allows you you to do so by proofing yourselv as a couple that your responsable enough to do so.

"You props be still in education and dont evenahave a job to support the child."

It sounds like you should probably work to be better educated as well.

thegerg

Just a typo big woop.

I'm actually not really apposed to an age limit on having kids. It would solve both over population problems along with kids having kids which never ends well and just costs tax payer dollars when they end up on welfare. The issue though is can you force someone to have an abortion?

Pirate700

A few weeks ago there was a court inquiry in the United States where the judge considered the possibility of ordering a retarded lady in her 30s to have an abortion (there were some medical issues I believe) against the wishes of her adoptive parents, but ultimately the judge decided not to do so.

Anyone under 25 shouldnt be able to.

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I'm actually not really apposed to an age limit on having kids. It would solve both over population problems along with kids having kids which never ends well and just costs tax payer dollars when they end up on welfare. The issue though is can you force someone to have an abortion?

whipassmt

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"You props be still in education and dont evenahave a job to support the child."

It sounds like you should probably work to be better educated as well.

thegerg

Just a typo big woop.

If you not going to contribute to the topic then piss off.

F*ck age limit. People should have to prove their financial ability, parental ability and a sufficient reason before being able to have a child. You know how much less of a burden unwanted children (and overpopulation) would be when everyone gets sterilized at birth and only reversed when they can prove they would be capable parents? And hey, there is the abortion problem solved.Zeviander

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I'm actually not really apposed to an age limit on having kids. It would solve both over population problems along with kids having kids which never ends well and just costs tax payer dollars when they end up on welfare. The issue though is can you force someone to have an abortion?

Pirate700

Mass producing these things?

Well we can have a supression field like in Half-Life 2 where it makes humans unable to have kids, or force all females into taking a drug at a young age so that they wont be able to procreate, and the only way to be able to procreate again is to get a drug that allows you you to do so by proofing yourselv as a couple that your responsable enough to do so.

ultimate-k

Well we can have a supression field like in Half-Life 2 where it makes humans unable to have kids, or force all females into taking a drug at a young age so that they wont be able to procreate, and the only way to be able to procreate again is to get a drug that allows you you to do so by proofing yourselv as a couple that your responsable enough to do so.

ultimate-k

Why the females?

Actually I would say that throughout human history people have had children before they were 20. The thing I find more anomalous, is that today there a many women who don't have kids until they are in their thirties.

Physically speaking, by 16 or so a female human should be able to bear a child without any major complications. Obviously then mental and emotional maturity must be factored in, and are probably harder to evaluate (or at least to come up with a definitive set of criteria to use) than physical maturity.

I do not really have a problem with young people having kids if they are mature enough. 16 and 17 is iffy, though a mature couple in the age of 18 and 19 is not problematic.

Obviously things will happen where kids are born to those who are not mature enough, but society just has to cope with that. Among other things one would expect that when younger people have kids, particularly when the new parents still live with their own parents, that the baby's grandparents would help the parents to parent (indeed they would be younger than most grandparents and thus have more energy).

As for all the silly machinations and plots people have so far mentioned (sterilizations, etc.) to control people's child-bearing, these schemes shall come to naught "Because the history of evolution is that life escapes all barriers. Life breaks free. Life expands to new territories. Painfully, perhaps even dangerously. But life finds a way."

Haven't there been enough oppressive totalitarian regimes to know that the OP's ideas are terrible?Laihendi

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]Haven't there been enough oppressive totalitarian regimes to know that the OP's ideas are terrible?Zeviander

So the government should be able to tell adults what they can and cant do with their bodies?Capitan_Kid

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I'm actually not really apposed to an age limit on having kids. It would solve both over population problems along with kids having kids which never ends well and just costs tax payer dollars when they end up on welfare. The issue though is can you force someone to have an abortion?

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]So basically what you're saying is that people shouldn't be allowed to have kids unless you personally think it's okay, and that the entire country should be forcibly injected with drugs so that they will behave in a manner that you find acceptable. Hitler would be proud.Zeviander

Please explain how the government forcing the entire country to take a drug that will prevent them from having children until the government decides they may reproduce is not oppressive and totalitarian.Laihendi

Also find it disgusting that people are having kids just for tax money, this will also stop people having kids just for free tax money comming out of tax payers money.

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]So the government should be able to tell adults what they can and cant do with their bodies?Zeviander

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]Please explain how the government forcing the entire country to take a drug that will prevent them from having children until the government decides they may reproduce is not oppressive and totalitarian.Zeviander

Haven't there been enough oppressive totalitarian regimes to know that the OP's ideas are terrible?Laihendi

Sample size isn't big enough! :P

[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]Please explain how the government forcing the entire country to take a drug that will prevent them from having children until the government decides they may reproduce is not oppressive and totalitarian.Laihendi

everywhere should be like china with the one kid policy or whatever that way people will be more careful and if they do get pregnant they know they've used up their one chance if they get pregnant again they have to get an abortion or pay a fine or go to jail or whatever have condoms etc available f***ing everywhere vending machines and s*** couples/women can apply to have another child by going to the part of the government that enforces it and proving their capability financially and even psychologically maybe this basic outline slows overpopulation and creates jobs within the government for the policing of the situation, for people in the birth control/safe sex industry, within womens healthcare and in child care for the dumb f***s that have to give up babies boom the world stops getting dumber and using up all its resources plus there are extra jobs so more people working and a more stable economy thank me latercheese_game619

Regardless of the effects of your plan, it cannot justify using the immoral and unjust means that you speak of.whipassmt

Physically speaking, by 16 or so a female human should be able to bear a child without any major complications. Obviously then mental and emotional maturity must be factored in, and are probably harder to evaluate (or at least to come up with a definitive set of criteria to use) than physical maturity.

whipassmt

Source? From what learned in high school, if a couple is under 20, the chance of birth defects are drastically higher than if they were a little older. Possibly due to underdeveloped parts of the body still?

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Physically speaking, by 16 or so a female human should be able to bear a child without any major complications. Obviously then mental and emotional maturity must be factored in, and are probably harder to evaluate (or at least to come up with a definitive set of criteria to use) than physical maturity.

Zlurodirom

Source? From what learned in high school, if a couple is under 20, the chance of birth defects are drastically higher than if they were a little older. Possibly due to underdeveloped parts of the body still?

Most teenagers who got pregnant or got somebody else pregnant didn't do so on purpose... It's not "I am sexually mature, my ovaries work so let's have a baby right now, because I CAN!". It's "Lol whoops should have used a condom".

There are plenty of parents at any age who are 'soft' on children. It's how they grew up that will shape them as a parent. I have been, and will always be "Go ahead and stick that penny in the light socket. See what happens" guy, and I'll be that way to my kids too. Also, it is against every freedom law to force birth control on somebody, and do you realize how much that would cost? You can't even do free healthcare in the US, where do you think this is gonna come from?

I know plenty of people who waited until they were in their mid 20s or even 30s to have a kid, and they still treated that kid like crap, or abused them. People can abuse their OWN kids too you know, not just foster parents.

Maybe you just shouldn't have children, you don't seem to have a very good grasp on much of anything. Just lay low and allow people who know what they're talking about to make the decisions.

[QUOTE="whipassmt"]Regardless of the effects of your plan, it cannot justify using the immoral and unjust means that you speak of.cheese_game619

F*ck age limit. People should have to prove their financial ability, parental ability and a sufficient reason before being able to have a child. You know how much less of a burden unwanted children (and overpopulation) would be when everyone gets sterilized at birth and only reversed when they can prove they would be capable parents? And hey, there is the abortion problem solved.Zeviander

Quite Libertarian of you.

To those who advocate forced sterilization, I'm curious where you see yourselves in all of this. Do you see yourselves as one of the people who is (or will be) responsible enough to be allowed to have children? Or do you think that under such a plan you would forever be forcibly prohibited from ever having children? Also, if the problem is our tax dollars getting "stolen" to care for babies, I'm curious about something. What exactly are we then supposed to do about the aging population? Lots of elderly people are taken care of by family. Like, kids and grandkids and such. By preventing those people from starting families, aren't we sort of then dooming ourselves to a system where we have to take care of the elderly instead? Seems to me like you're paying for other peoples' mistakes either way. MrGeezer