Unfair criticism of Obama...?

...It seems the oil spill is Obama's fault, do people want him to put on a scuba suit and swim down their? What else can he possibly do?

The economy is Obama's fault? even though Republicans don't want to give him the powers to cut spending?

Democrat's blame Obama for not creating a more comprehensive health care bill, Republicans blame him for being socialist etc, even though he did everything to make a health care bill that would be fair to what both parties wanted. Republicans say the american people don't want health care reform, even though Barrack Obama was elected president?

Failed terrorist attacks - Obama's fault?

And yesterday Obama was criticised by Democrats for taking too long on "don't ask, don't tell" even though he is doing everything in his power to get it repealed by congress, in the face of widespread criticism from Republicans for trying to get it repealed.

I don't think people are realistic at all, the president's office is the hardest job in the world, and Obama is doing his best to get the changes Democrats want, but also to keep Republicans happy.... yet he is still called spineless by Democrats and a communist by Republicans.

It's just my opinion, maybe i'm wrong but some of the critisism doesn't make sense to me. Give the man a chance...

I thought republicans were all for "drill baby drill"? :roll:

Let's not blame the oil companies and their unsafe procedures. Can't punish capitalism!

I don't feel criticism toward him when it comes to DADT is unwarranted. He promised many things to the LGBT community and has so far delivered on nothing.

I don't feel criticism toward him when it comes to DADT is unwarranted. He promised many things to the LGBT community and has so far delivered on nothing.Pixel-Pirate

I thought they were coming pretty close to DADT reform, weren't they?

Opponents of any world leader will only focus on the negative things that happen during their term. Not being American I can't really comment on Obama's policies but from what I've heard he's not really popular over there.

Obama basically gets treated by republicans the way Bush was treated by democrats. That's not entirely fair however, as he hasn't done nearly as many things worthy of criticism as Bush did. Ninja-Hippo

Obama basically gets treated by republicans the way Bush was treated by democrats. That's not entirely fair however, as he hasn't done nearly as many things worthy of criticism as Bush did. Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Obama basically gets treated by republicans the way Bush was treated by democrats. That's not entirely fair however, as he hasn't done nearly as many things worthy of criticism as Bush did. LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Obama basically gets treated by republicans the way Bush was treated by democrats. That's not entirely fair however, as he hasn't done nearly as many things worthy of criticism as Bush did. Ninja-Hippo

Bush is still bad mouthed and he hasn't been President for over a year and by those not even from the US.

There is no such thing as "unfair" criticism when it comes to a political figure of any party, and as the president, Obama will constantly fall under attack and be blamed for countless things he had no such control over...like the fact that my neighbor refuses to trim the HEDGES!!! ::shakes fist::

Presidents always get unfair criticism it just comes with the territory.

But right and wrong in politics is still subjective. I don't find either one to be a worthwhile president TBH....but proponents of both will argue that.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]But right and wrong in politics is still subjective. I don't find either one to be a worthwhile president TBH....but proponents of both will argue that.Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]But right and wrong in politics is still subjective. I don't find either one to be a worthwhile president TBH....but proponents of both will argue that.LJS9502_basic

Im not trying to argue or be offensive, I just wanted to note that I think you simply missed his point.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Reasonably speaking right and wrong is not subjective. Sure, a person could philosophically justify that murder is ok if they want to argue that right and wrong is subjective, but in the real world most of us are well aware of the fact that Cheney abused his power, that the administration was secretive and corrupt, that many people profited from the Iraq war and that the Patriot Act trampled all over the constitution. Objectively speaking those aren't things that you would consider bad just because of your politcal ideology, but things that hopefully everyone should be against. elfimis

Im not trying to argue or be offensive, I just wanted to note that I think you simply missed his point.

Obama basically gets treated by republicans the way Bush was treated by democrats. That's not entirely fair however, as he hasn't done nearly as many things worthy of criticism as Bush did. Ninja-Hippo

Yeah thats fairly accurate except Bush wasn't being treated like this until years 6-7 of his presidency. Up till years 4-5 he was actually hardly ever criticized and certainly not this widely. Basically the message here is simply; Fox News and their colleagues are sore losers.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] When it comes to politics....it IS subjective. It's an opinion as to policy. LJS9502_basic

Im not trying to argue or be offensive, I just wanted to note that I think you simply missed his point.

Hmmm, you pose a clever counter arguement. I am at a loss of words. Well played sir.....well played.

Obama basically gets treated by republicans the way Bush was treated by democrats. That's not entirely fair however, as he hasn't done nearly as many things worthy of criticism as Bush did. Ninja-Hippo

What I dont like... considering this is mainly about the oil spill it seems... Specifically about the oil spill, I do not like how he was all for Off-shore Drilling.... Now look what happened, and now guess what? Hes changing his tune, isnt he?xhellcatx

[QUOTE="xhellcatx"]What I dont like... considering this is mainly about the oil spill it seems... Specifically about the oil spill, I do not like how he was all for Off-shore Drilling.... Now look what happened, and now guess what? Hes changing his tune, isnt he?Fuhgeddabouditt

Obama basically gets treated by republicans the way Bush was treated by democrats. That's not entirely fair however, as he hasn't done nearly as many things worthy of criticism as Bush did. Ninja-Hippo

I would argue that Bush did get alot of criticism, but even Democrats supported the president after 9/11 even on the Iraq War.. Furthermore, a large group of the Republican party has claimed that Obama is a flat out socialist.. So no its a pretty big difference imo.. Bush didn't see huge criticsim to 3 to 4 years in.. Obama had immense criticism before he even got into the oval office.

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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"]What I dont like... considering this is mainly about the oil spill it seems... Specifically about the oil spill, I do not like how he was all for Off-shore Drilling.... Now look what happened, and now guess what? Hes changing his tune, isnt he?xhellcatx

You make a good point. Obama imo is simply just being a politician tried and true, he was pro drilling then a rig blew up, killed some people, and destroys gulf of mexico coastlines, and now he is against the idea naturally because he'd look like a complete jackass and would come under so much political fire if he said "keep on drillin!" This is common politics, nothing out of the ordinary.

[QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"] I thought the Republicans were for Off-shore drilling?I usually hear it coming out of Sarah Palin's mouth. "Drill baby drill."

elfimis

You make a good point. Obama imo is simply just being a politician tried and true, he was pro drilling then a rig blew up, killed some people, and destroys gulf of mexico coastlines, and now he is against the idea naturally because he'd look like a complete jackass and would come under so much political fire if he said "keep on drillin!" This is common politics, nothing out of the ordinary.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] When it comes to politics....it IS subjective. It's an opinion as to policy. LJS9502_basic

Im not trying to argue or be offensive, I just wanted to note that I think you simply missed his point.

what opinion's exactly?

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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"] From what I remember Obama was pro Offshore Drilling. *shrugs* Just cause Palin was for it, doesnt mean Obama wasnt. Fuhgeddabouditt

You make a good point. Obama imo is simply just being a politician tried and true, he was pro drilling then a rig blew up, killed some people, and destroys gulf of mexico coastlines, and now he is against the idea naturally because he'd look like a complete jackass and would come under so much political fire if he said "keep on drillin!" This is common politics, nothing out of the ordinary.

Really? I thought part of his mandate was to reduce dependency on international oil imports?

I thought republicans were all for "drill baby drill"? :roll:

Let's not blame the oil companies and their unsafe procedures. Can't punish capitalism!

I don't feel criticism toward him when it comes to DADT is unwarranted. He promised many things to the LGBT community and has so far delivered on nothing.

Pixel-Pirate

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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"] From what I remember Obama was pro Offshore Drilling. *shrugs* Just cause Palin was for it, doesnt mean Obama wasnt. Fuhgeddabouditt

You make a good point. Obama imo is simply just being a politician tried and true, he was pro drilling then a rig blew up, killed some people, and destroys gulf of mexico coastlines, and now he is against the idea naturally because he'd look like a complete jackass and would come under so much political fire if he said "keep on drillin!" This is common politics, nothing out of the ordinary.

He changed his stance just a few weeks before the rig blew, if I remember.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="elfimis"]

Im not trying to argue or be offensive, I just wanted to note that I think you simply missed his point.

LastCaveMan

what opinion's exactly?

It's a perpetual cycle of blaming, folks do it and still do with Bush, and people will do it with Obama. It's all silly, but it's something that's never going to go away.Stevo_the_gamer

...It seems the oil spill is Obama's fault, do people want him to put on a scuba suit and swim down their? What else can he possibly do?

LastCaveMan

I don't blame Obama for this anymore than I would blame Bush for Katrina. If you want to get on Obama for something, his public display as of late has come off as indifferent and near tactless. But people ripping Obama over this spill are foolish at best.

Obama basically gets treated by republicans the way Bush was treated by democrats. That's not entirely fair however, as he hasn't done nearly as many things worthy of criticism as Bush did. Ninja-Hippo

I guess he's the QB, takes the blame for a win or a loss even though there are a ton of other guys on the team.X360PS3AMD05

Some people will try to pin EVERYTHING on the guy at the top.

...It seems the oil spill is Obama's fault, do people want him to put on a scuba suit and swim down their? What else can he possibly do?

The economy is Obama's fault? even though Republicans don't want to give him the powers to cut spending?

Democrat's blame Obama for not creating a more comprehensive health care bill, Republicans blame him for being socialist etc, even though he did everything to make a health care bill that would be fair to what both parties wanted. Republicans say the american people don't want health care reform, even though Barrack Obama was elected president?

Failed terrorist attacks - Obama's fault?

And yesterday Obama was criticised by Democrats for taking too long on "don't ask, don't tell" even though he is doing everything in his power to get it repealed by congress, in the face of widespread criticism from Republicans for trying to get it repealed.

I don't think people are realistic at all, the president's office is the hardest job in the world, and Obama is doing his best to get the changes Democrats want, but also to keep Republicans happy.... yet he is still called spineless by Democrats and a communist by Republicans.

It's just my opinion, maybe i'm wrong but some of the critisism doesn't make sense to me. Give the man a chance...

LastCaveMan

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I've seen opinions to the contrary of what he's stating...LJS9502_basic

what opinion's exactly?

very vague :|

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="LastCaveMan"]

what opinion's exactly?

LastCaveMan

very vague :|

criticism is neither fair or unfair. EMOEVOLUTION

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]criticism is neither fair or unfair. LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"] From what I remember Obama was pro Offshore Drilling. *shrugs* Just cause Palin was for it, doesnt mean Obama wasnt. Fuhgeddabouditt

You make a good point. Obama imo is simply just being a politician tried and true, he was pro drilling then a rig blew up, killed some people, and destroys gulf of mexico coastlines, and now he is against the idea naturally because he'd look like a complete jackass and would come under so much political fire if he said "keep on drillin!" This is common politics, nothing out of the ordinary.

No, Obama was all for offshore drilling before this mess in the gulf.

Anyway, I think the criticism of him has been fair. Nothing other presidents haven'tseen before.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]criticism is neither fair or unfair. EMOEVOLUTION

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Obama basically gets treated by republicans the way Bush was treated by democrats. That's not entirely fair however, as he hasn't done nearly as many things worthy of criticism as Bush did. WhiteKnight77

[QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"] I thought the Republicans were for Off-shore drilling?I usually hear it coming out of Sarah Palin's mouth. "Drill baby drill."

elfimis

You make a good point. Obama imo is simply just being a politician tried and true, he was pro drilling then a rig blew up, killed some people, and destroys gulf of mexico coastlines, and now he is against the idea naturally because he'd look like a complete jackass and would come under so much political fire if he said "keep on drillin!" This is common politics, nothing out of the ordinary.