Unlicensed Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills 16 Year Old Girl

Driver of SUV that killed teen in St. Paul had no license and was granted a bond of $100,000 even though he was an illegal immigrant who had been deported previously for being illegal. The girl was sitting under a tree with her boyfriend who managed to get out of the way of the driver only to see his GF killed.

Was the bond set to low or should have have been granted a bond due to being a flight risk?

If it happened here in CA, the illegal would be given a pass and a cash settlement for his trouble.

Check out the other thread I started.

How awful!

We should really start banning SUVs. Those things are a deathtrap!

Well if released the feds are waiting so he isn't going anywhere. I'd say deport him to Death Valley in New Mexico on a chain gang. Maybe send the boyfriend too. Sure he will be fine since his self preservation is really high. CreasianDevaili

You should really study some geography. Death Valley is not in New Mexico. Still, I like the thought of the sentence to Death Valley. A summertime sentence would be great.

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]Well if released the feds are waiting so he isn't going anywhere. I'd say deport him to Death Valley in New Mexico on a chain gang. Maybe send the boyfriend too. Sure he will be fine since his self preservation is really high. WhiteKnight77

You should really study some geography. Death Valley is not in New Mexico. Still, I like the thought of the sentence to Death Valley. A summertime sentence would be great.

Well if released the feds are waiting so he isn't going anywhere. I'd say deport him to Death Valley in New Mexico on a chain gang. Maybe send the boyfriend too. Sure he will be fine since his self preservation is really high. CreasianDevaili

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]Well if released the feds are waiting so he isn't going anywhere. I'd say deport him to Death Valley in New Mexico on a chain gang. Maybe send the boyfriend too. Sure he will be fine since his self preservation is really high. Pirate700

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[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]Well if released the feds are waiting so he isn't going anywhere. I'd say deport him to Death Valley in New Mexico on a chain gang. Maybe send the boyfriend too. Sure he will be fine since his self preservation is really high. CreasianDevaili

Huh?

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Death Valley is in CA...

Huh?

If it happened here in CA, the illegal would be given a pass and a cash settlement for his trouble.

Pirate700

Maybe send the boyfriend too. Sure he will be fine since his self preservation is really high. CreasianDevaili

damn b!tches got slow reflexes =(.....

Don't want to be that guy but the boyfriend probably should have tried to grab his girl and take her with him? Just saying...

Dude came to the country illegally, was deported, and then came back again.

Yep, sounds like a flight risk all right.

Attractive young female dies, nation mourns.

Meanwhile black men die by the truckloads and no one gives a sh!t

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Don't want to be that guy but the boyfriend probably should have tried to grab his girl and take her with him? Just saying...

J-man45

If it happened here in CA, the illegal would be given a pass and a cash settlement for his trouble.

Pirate700

lol, hyperbole much?

I like how the man plows into an innocent bystander, killing her, and the most important issue here is his immigration status.

Well if released the feds are waiting so he isn't going anywhere. I'd say deport him to Death Valley in New Mexico on a chain gang. Maybe send the boyfriend too. Sure he will be fine since his self preservation is really high. CreasianDevaili

Punish the surviving victim? That's an interesting take.

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Don't want to be that guy but the boyfriend probably should have tried to grab his girl and take her with him? Just saying...

josephl64

Not according to the story. But also according to the story they didn't have much reaction time to begin with. So it's understandable I guess.

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]Maybe send the boyfriend too. Sure he will be fine since his self preservation is really high. Dark__Link

I like how the man plows into an innocent bystander, killing her, and the most important issue here is his immigration status.

worlock77

Well, we need to know everything about this bastard so we can judge and condemn him......For all we know he could have been smuggling drugs and texting El Chapo.

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]Well if released the feds are waiting so he isn't going anywhere. I'd say deport him to Death Valley in New Mexico on a chain gang. Maybe send the boyfriend too. Sure he will be fine since his self preservation is really high. worlock77

Punish the surviving victim? That's an interesting take.

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[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]Well if released the feds are waiting so he isn't going anywhere. I'd say deport him to Death Valley in New Mexico on a chain gang. Maybe send the boyfriend too. Sure he will be fine since his self preservation is really high. CreasianDevaili

Punish the surviving victim? That's an interesting take.

That's an awful big judgment to make based upon next to nothing.

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Punish the surviving victim? That's an interesting take.

That's an awful big judgment to make based upon next to nothing.

Personally, I'd like to beat this f*ck to death with a baseball bat. Only because my father was mauled by one of these illegal yuppie pricks in a car that shouldn't be here in the first place.

InEMplease

Obviously had they been legal then it wouldn't have happened.

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[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"] I just think he is wired in a way that makes him a bad person in my own perspective. I did say maybe. But I'd say that there isn't a way for me to look at someone who left his loved one to die like that in any light but a somewhat negative one. CreasianDevaili

That's an awful big judgment to make based upon next to nothing.

You make it sound as if he callously said "screw you b*tch, you're on your own" then walked off. The dude had, what, maybe one second to react, if that. In a situation that happens that quickly you're pretty much operating on pure reflex, higher thought processes don't really come into play.

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Personally, I'd like to beat this f*ck to death with a baseball bat. Only because my father was mauled by one of these illegal yuppie pricks in a car that shouldn't be here in the first place.

InEMplease

Obviously had they been legal then it wouldn't have happened.

Had he been legal we would have been able to actually track down the motherf*cker.

Not necessarily.

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Had he been legal we would have been able to actually track down the motherf*cker.

InEMplease

Not necessarily.

It certainly would have made it more difficult for him to get away with a hit and run.

How do you figure?

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

That's an awful big judgment to make based upon next to nothing.

You make it sound as if he callously said "screw you b*tch, you're on your own" then walked off. The dude had, what, maybe one second to react, if that. In a situation that happens that quickly you're pretty much operating on pure reflex, higher thought processes don't really come into play.

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It certainly would have made it more difficult for him to get away with a hit and run.

InEMplease

How do you figure?

What's easier to track, something with a paper trail, or something without?

Generally speaking hit-and-runs flee the scene before any real information can be gathered about them, so I don't see how a person's legal status would make any difference there.

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[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"] I said my perspective however, not in reality. I can at the very least understand that not all of the facts have been properly given and in light of that I base the judgement on perspective, given the information at hand. Yet if it did happen that fast and he made no attempt to grab her or push her out of the way then I'd have to remain at my judgement. Can you really say I am entirely incorrect if that is the case? Self preservation is important and maybe he just didn't care about her that much? Which case there would be no real desire to place her life above his own, and his actions make perfect sense. CreasianDevaili

You make it sound as if he callously said "screw you b*tch, you're on your own" then walked off. The dude had, what, maybe one second to react, if that. In a situation that happens that quickly you're pretty much operating on pure reflex, higher thought processes don't really come into play.

Yet people have rushed back inside and died trying to save their loved ones. When your skin is melting as you just get into the doorway instincts are in full swing. Same with people using their bodies as shield for their passengers when for a split second they register a car is about to hit them. So why do some people in a split second protect someone and others protect themselves?

No, we're not talking about instincts, we're talking about reflex. They are not necessarily the same thing. And frankly speaking it's quite pretentious of you to pronounce that this kid is a bad person based on no more than this article, and an extremely f*cked up situation. I'd like to see how you react in the same situation. Maybe we can judge you to be a piece of sh*t when you don't move exactly as we think you should.

Also a house fire is a bad example to prove your point. House fires don't happen in the blink of an eye. A person has time to think, time to consider their actions.

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[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

What's easier to track, something with a paper trail, or something without?

InEMplease

Generally speaking hit-and-runs flee the scene before any real information can be gathered about them, so I don't see how a person's legal status would make any difference there.

This took place in a busy intersection in downtown Manhattan. Licence plate and cab company were identified, but we were chasing somebody that's technically not even here.

Then go after the cab company who hired them.

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[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

This took place in a busy intersection in downtown Manhattan. Licence plate and cab company were identified, but we were chasing somebody that's technically not even here.

InEMplease

Then go after the cab company who hired them.

Each cab is considered independent from the company.

If it's a taxi then it is licensed, which means that somebody is on record as the owner and operator, which means that legal action can be persued against that person or business.

No, we're not talking about instincts, we're talking about reflex. They are not necessarily the same thing. And frankly speaking it's quite pretentious of you to pronounce that this kid is a bad person based on no more than this article, and an extremely f*cked up situation. I'd like to see how you react in the same situation. Maybe we can judge you to be a piece of sh*t when you don't move exactly as we think you should.

Also a house fire is a bad example to prove your point. House fires don't happen in the blink of an eye. A person has time to think, time to consider their actions.

worlock77