US Bill to Prevent China Currency Manipulation

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#1 mattbbpl
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I thought this was rather interesting. There's currently legislation making it's way through Congress that would urge countries not to devalue their currency.

"After clearing a procedural hurdle Monday night, the Senate is expected to pass a bill later this week that would impose penalties on countries whose currency is now undervalued."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/04/boehner-calls-china-currency-bill-%E2%80%98dangerous%E2%80%99/

(Sorry for the lack of a hyperlink, GS doesn't like this URL for some reason)

What do you think of such a proposal, OT? Should we try to prevent countries from artificially devaluing their currency to gain a competitive trade advantage?

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#2 CRS98
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Impose what kind of penalties?
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#3 branketra
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"Their" currency? Do you mean the U.S. currency?
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#4 mattbbpl
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Impose what kind of penalties?CRS98
Sounds like import tariffs.
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#5 LORD_BLACKGULT
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I don't know what to make of it. I really don't see how the US can truely do this... seems like it would pissoff China...

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#6 mattbbpl
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"Their" currency? Do you mean the U.S. currency? BranKetra
The countries on the opposite side of the trade - this legislation is particularly aimed at China, although it isn't written solely for them.
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#7 mattbbpl
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linky for the lazy

I don't know what to make of it. I really don't see how the US can truely do this... seems like it would pissoff China...

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Good show. Not sure how you did that, but thanks. GS kept giving me an error.
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I doubt this will have any effect.

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#9 branketra
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linky for the lazy

LORD_BLACKGULT
Appreciate it. Though, I still don't understand. Is this basically a means to keep the Chinese currency on uneven terms with U.S. currency? Reasons for this aside.
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#10 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="LORD_BLACKGULT"]

linky for the lazy

BranKetra

Appreciate it. Though, I still don't understand. Is this basically a means to keep the Chinese currency on uneven terms with U.S. currency? Reasons for this aside.

Here are some more details and China's initial response.

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I'm going to try and figure out how to get around GS URL errors...

Edit: Success! I was experiencing this issue:

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I'm going to try and figure out how to get around GS URL errors...mattbbpl

Use the editor....it links.

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#12 theone86
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[QUOTE="CRS98"]Impose what kind of penalties?mattbbpl
Sounds like import tariffs.

Hah, fat chance of that working. China owns a giant chunk of our debt and our manufacturing practically depends on them. I think import tarrifs coupled with a scaling back of our debt and an investment in American manufacturing might make a difference, but just slapping down tarriffs right now would do nothing of value. Even then I doubt one country imposing tariffs would do much good, what is needed is a coalition dedicated to ending these tactics.

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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

I'm going to try and figure out how to get around GS URL errors...LJS9502_basic

Use the editor....it links.

Keeps giving me an error. I'm tired of dealing with it right now, I'll troubleshoot later.
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#14 branketra
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So, how is China manipulating its currency? Also, is it so bad that it's incomparable to the U.S.'s methods? I mean, the U.S. uses loans with other countries, including China. Not to say that two wrongs make a right. I just think that U.S. shouldn't bite the hand that helps them.
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#15 dagreenfish
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[QUOTE="CRS98"]Impose what kind of penalties?mattbbpl
Sounds like import tariffs.

Not sure on the details, but tariffs might be seen as a protectionist act and be shaker WTO trade laws.
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#16 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="CRS98"]Impose what kind of penalties?dagreenfish
Sounds like import tariffs.

Not sure on the details, but tariffs might be seen as a protectionist act and be shaker WTO trade laws.

It very well could be. China actually referenced the WTO in their initial response.
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#17 limpbizkit818
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Make no sense and I would be surprised if this makes it through the house. America's woes are far greater than China pegging their currency. Our political class has no idea what is going on......
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#18 gameking5000
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America should focus more on it's own financial problems rather than China's "currency manipulation".

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#19 jetpower3
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Is anyone ready for a potential trade war? Might very well be in the making.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

I'm going to try and figure out how to get around GS URL errors...mattbbpl

Use the editor....it links.

Keeps giving me an error. I'm tired of dealing with it right now, I'll troubleshoot later.

Cause it use html coding for the link, but for some reason adds something that it later rejects when you try to post. Bbcode works, and if you do small changes to the HTML code the editor uses, it works.
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#21 lordreaven
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And how would this law affect China exactly? Last time I checked the US congress passed bills that affected....*gasp* the US. This would be like theAustrian congress passing laws that affect Albania.

EDIT: Unless I'm reading this wrong and it's a law that will put a tax....or something on shipped goods.