Whats up with that? I see no reason for it. NDAA, FISA, and now this, tell me we aren't working towards a full on dictatorship because it doesn't take a psychic to see where this **** is going. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hjres15
So you guys really don't see a problem with executive powers being expanded, the militarization of our police, the attacks on freedom of speech and protest, the invasion of privacy, and increasing depth of a surveillance state?
Stupid bills are submitted all the time. I recall some years ago some repubs submitting some anti-anti-Christian bills. Where did those get? Nowhere.
Same thing here.
br0kenrabbit
I never mentioned Obama. I'm just pointing out that they're atleast trying something like this. [QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]A dictatorship that Americans vote for. Genius Like Hitler with The Enabling Act, any president with NDAA could exercise powers not unlike a dictator and keep themselves in power. History is repeating itself in my opinion.
[QUOTE="Abbeten"]ndaa doesnt do anything new/extraordinaryFuggaJ
NDAA in itself isn't new but in the past year provisions were added to allow indefinite detention of American citizens without evidence or trial okay then the first person detained as such brings writ of habeas corpus and the administration tries to cite the law as authority to detain and SCOTUS goes 'lolno' and presumably strikes the law down
[QUOTE="FuggaJ"][QUOTE="Abbeten"]ndaa doesnt do anything new/extraordinaryAbbeten
NDAA in itself isn't new but in the past year provisions were added to allow indefinite detention of American citizens without evidence or trial okay then the first person detained as such brings writ of habeas corpus and the administration tries to cite the law as authority to detain and SCOTUS goes 'lolno' and presumably strikes the law down Is there any reason to trust the government that much? They made the law someone somewhere will eventually use it, and they sure as hell won't be using it right out in public view. This is secret police **** where yer never heard from again.
[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="FuggaJ"]NDAA in itself isn't new but in the past year provisions were added to allow indefinite detention of American citizens without evidence or trialFuggaJ
okay then the first person detained as such brings writ of habeas corpus and the administration tries to cite the law as authority to detain and SCOTUS goes 'lolno' and presumably strikes the law down Is there any reason to trust the government that much? They made the law someone somewhere will eventually use it, and they sure as hell won't be using it right out in public view. This is secret police **** where yer never heard from again. lol
This idiotic idea had to come from the left. Obama does want to be a dictator. He thinks he should be able to rule through UN treaties and executive orders. Anyone who doesn't see this is blind. His track record speaks for itself.
[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="FuggaJ"][QUOTE="Abbeten"] okay then the first person detained as such brings writ of habeas corpus and the administration tries to cite the law as authority to detain and SCOTUS goes 'lolno' and presumably strikes the law down Is there any reason to trust the government that much? They made the law someone somewhere will eventually use it, and they sure as hell won't be using it right out in public view. This is secret police **** where yer never heard from again. lolAnything substantial to contribute or do you just like providing useless condescension?
[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="FuggaJ"]NDAA in itself isn't new but in the past year provisions were added to allow indefinite detention of American citizens without evidence or trialFuggaJ
okay then the first person detained as such brings writ of habeas corpus and the administration tries to cite the law as authority to detain and SCOTUS goes 'lolno' and presumably strikes the law down Is there any reason to trust the government that much? They made the law someone somewhere will eventually use it, and they sure as hell won't be using it right out in public view. This is secret police **** where yer never heard from again. if that's really what you're scared of, then why would a law even be necessary?
[QUOTE="FuggaJ"][QUOTE="Abbeten"]ndaa doesnt do anything new/extraordinaryAbbeten
NDAA in itself isn't new but in the past year provisions were added to allow indefinite detention of American citizens without evidence or trial okay then the first person detained as such brings writ of habeas corpus and the administration tries to cite the law as authority to detain and SCOTUS goes 'lolno' and presumably strikes the law down
[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="FuggaJ"]NDAA in itself isn't new but in the past year provisions were added to allow indefinite detention of American citizens without evidence or trialhartsickdiscipl
okay then the first person detained as such brings writ of habeas corpus and the administration tries to cite the law as authority to detain and SCOTUS goes 'lolno' and presumably strikes the law down
Maybe. Maybe not.
well if they didn't, they'd be overturning a loooooooooot of precedent, some of which they set themselves not even ten years ago
This idiotic idea had to come from the left. Obama does want to be a dictator. He thinks he should be able to rule through UN treaties and executive orders. Anyone who doesn't see this is blind. His track record speaks for itself.
[QUOTE="FuggaJ"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="FuggaJ"] Is there any reason to trust the government that much? They made the law someone somewhere will eventually use it, and they sure as hell won't be using it right out in public view. This is secret police **** where yer never heard from again. lolAnything substantial to contribute or do you just like providing useless condescension? There is nothing to contribute to a post that entertains a false dilemma.
[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="FuggaJ"]NDAA in itself isn't new but in the past year provisions were added to allow indefinite detention of American citizens without evidence or trialhartsickdiscipl
okay then the first person detained as such brings writ of habeas corpus and the administration tries to cite the law as authority to detain and SCOTUS goes 'lolno' and presumably strikes the law down
Maybe. Maybe not.
ikr look at how they didnt overturn warrantless tracking on cars
This idiotic idea had to come from the left. Obama does want to be a dictator. He thinks he should be able to rule through UN treaties and executive orders. Anyone who doesn't see this is blind. His track record speaks for itself.
[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="FuggaJ"][QUOTE="Abbeten"] okay then the first person detained as such brings writ of habeas corpus and the administration tries to cite the law as authority to detain and SCOTUS goes 'lolno' and presumably strikes the law down Is there any reason to trust the government that much? They made the law someone somewhere will eventually use it, and they sure as hell won't be using it right out in public view. This is secret police **** where yer never heard from again. if that's really what you're scared of, then why would a law even be necessary?Because as long as they can paint the picture of everything being legal and fine there's less risk of public outcry and social revolution.
TC - do you even understand the process for amending the Constitution?
FuggaJ
the basic gist of it, I understand this isn't going straight to a law my point is they're trying because they think they can do it.
No, they aren't. You do realize that any member of Congress can submit any bill they want right? Most bills never make it beyond that initial proposal.
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