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#1 KillaHalo2o9
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Things are heating up with the United States and Iran in the past weeks, so whats your thoughts if the U.S wages war on Iran?
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#2 fidosim
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I don't think it's as likely right now as it has been at other points. That whole naval encounter was really the only provocative thing that's happened in a while. I don't think it'll happen anytime soon.
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#3 MattUD1
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I will lose whatever faith I still have in the government.
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#4 NasRex
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Wont happen.

US needs to stabilized there economy first.

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#5 Kazona
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If they start a war against Iran as well, then I'll really lose whatever little faith I still have in the US.
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#6 shoeman12
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i don't think we'll start anything because we have enough going on. if iran does something first, however (like attack our ships) then we probably would and we would have the support of our allies if iran struck first.
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#7 eo12601
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Won't happen. Our military is already stretched pretty thin and the only way we would have enough manpower for something like that would be to instate a draft. Which would be political suicide.
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#8 duglikedert
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Things are heating up with the United States and Iran in the past weeks, so whats your thoughts if the U.S wages war on Iran?KillaHalo2o9

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#9 bman784
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Bush wants to, but no one else does. He's spreading lies to try and start one.
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#10 Solid_Link22
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Won't happen. Our military is already stretched pretty thin and the only way we would have enough manpower for something like that would be to instate a draft. Which would be political suicide.eo12601

Yup and I would run of to my family in Mexico.

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#11 ShadowtheDark
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It will be just be the first of many events that will change the world indelibly.

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#12 Kritical_Strike
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If for one reason or another, the US were to engage in war with Iran, it would be a bloody mess. They're quite advanced in terms of military if I'm not mistaken. It won't be another cakewalk like Iraq
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If for one reason or another, the US were to engage in war with Iran, it would be a bloody mess. They're quite advanced in terms of military if I'm not mistaken. It won't be another cakewalk like IraqKritical_Strike

You think Iraq was a cakewalk? Not in the slightest. Iraq was and continues to be an absolute disaster.
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#14 haggard_korn
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if a war does happen, the U.S. will need another draft
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#15 fidosim
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[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]If for one reason or another, the US were to engage in war with Iran, it would be a bloody mess. They're quite advanced in terms of military if I'm not mistaken. It won't be another cakewalk like Iraqbman784

You think Iraq was a cakewalk? Not in the slightest. Iraq was and continues to be an absolute disaster.

Not really. Saddam's professional army was defeated in 3 weeks, and the insurgency hasn't really done severe damage to the forces there.

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[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]If for one reason or another, the US were to engage in war with Iran, it would be a bloody mess. They're quite advanced in terms of military if I'm not mistaken. It won't be another cakewalk like Iraqbman784

You think Iraq was a cakewalk? Not in the slightest. Iraq was and continues to be an absolute disaster.

The conventional war was a cakewalk compared to pervious conflicts. (In regards to the American casualties versus Iraqi casualties)

No offense intended to any of those in the military.

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#17 EVOLV3
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The war will come in time, countries need war to profit. There is always war happening.
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#18 Tiefster
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I don't think it's as likely right now as it has been at other points. That whole naval encounter was really the only provocative thing that's happened in a while. I don't think it'll happen anytime soon.fidosim

That whole naval thing was dumb as hell. How dumb to you have to be to do something like that?
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[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]If for one reason or another, the US were to engage in war with Iran, it would be a bloody mess. They're quite advanced in terms of military if I'm not mistaken. It won't be another cakewalk like Iraqfidosim


You think Iraq was a cakewalk? Not in the slightest. Iraq was and continues to be an absolute disaster.

Not really. Saddam's professional army was defeated in 3 weeks, and the insurgency hasn't really done severe damage to the forces there.


3800 dead American soldiers is not a number that should be viewed as a "cake walk". The war had caused over a million total deaths so far.
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#20 NasRex
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[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]If for one reason or another, the US were to engage in war with Iran, it would be a bloody mess. They're quite advanced in terms of military if I'm not mistaken. It won't be another cakewalk like Iraqfidosim


You think Iraq was a cakewalk? Not in the slightest. Iraq was and continues to be an absolute disaster.

Not really. Saddam's professional army was defeated in 3 weeks, and the insurgency hasn't really done severe damage to the forces there.

because they are too busy killing themselves...bunch of idoits.

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#21 Funkyhamster
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They won't do it after the intelligence report saying Iran doesn't have nukes...
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#22 eo12601
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They won't do it after the intelligence report saying Iran doesn't have nukes...Funkyhamster

I can't remember when, but I could've sworn our intelligence was wrong once before not too long ago. :P

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#23 xenos4
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I don't want any more wars. And don't talk about who will "win". Nobody wins in wars, one side just loses less.
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#24 eo12601
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I don't want any more wars. And don't talk about who will "win". Nobody wins in wars, one side just loses less.xenos4

Hate to break it to you bud, but as long as humans exist, wars will exist.

On a philosophical note, would we really value peace if we never knew war?

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#25 DeathStar17
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Rofls, do you think Iran really wants to rumble against the U.S. Navy...
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#26 EVOLV3
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Rofls, do you think Iran really wants to rumble against the U.S. Navy...DeathStar17


:| A Navy wont matter if its a Nuclear War.
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#27 eo12601
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[QUOTE="DeathStar17"]Rofls, do you think Iran really wants to rumble against the U.S. Navy...EVOLV3


:| A Navy wont matter if its a Nuclear War.

It would never come to that.

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#28 bman784
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[QUOTE="DeathStar17"]Rofls, do you think Iran really wants to rumble against the U.S. Navy...EVOLV3


:| A Navy wont matter if its a Nuclear War.


Iran stopped weapons pursuits in 2003 and couldn't enrich uranium in a high enough concentration until 2010-2015. They don't have nukes.
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#29 joshi1s3
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something really serious would have to happen. and iran wouldnt dare do someting 'serious'. i hav a feelinng though that america are looking at how much oil iran have...
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[QUOTE="DeathStar17"]Rofls, do you think Iran really wants to rumble against the U.S. Navy...EVOLV3


:| A Navy wont matter if its a Nuclear War.

Sure you'd like to think of how epic a nuclear war would be, but I'd like to enlighten you

*hint hint* nobodyisgoingtousenukesbecausenobodyiscreazyenoughto destroytheentireworlddwiping outtheveryleaderwholaunchedthemforgettingridofforeigners(US of A)ftw *hinthint*

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[QUOTE="EVOLV3"][QUOTE="DeathStar17"]Rofls, do you think Iran really wants to rumble against the U.S. Navy...DivergeUnify



:| A Navy wont matter if its a Nuclear War.

Sure you'd like to think of how epic a nuclear war would be, but I'd like to enlighten you

*hint hint* nobodyisgoingtousenukesbecausenobodyiscreazyenoughto destroytheentireworlddwiping outtheveryleaderwholaunchedthemforgettingridofforeigners(US of A)ftw *hinthint*

Nah, a good number of South American countries would be a good place to be in case of a nuclear war, not to mention Africa might look pretty tempting, after all I would rather have skirmishes then radioactive mushroom clouds.

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#32 HellRazer360
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someone give me a story of whats going on...how are things heating up...what did we do to piss them off or what did they do to piss us off??????????????????
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#33 KHfanboy2
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If they do, I'm moving to Canada, or maybe England!
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#34 notconspiracy
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we're ****ed if we go to war in iran

we'll win, but the occupation will be hell

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#35 Lord_Ahti
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They may start in Fall 2008.... because then I won't be in the vicinity of either place :P
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someone give me a story of whats going on...how are things heating up...what did we do to piss them off or what did they do to piss us off??????????????????HellRazer360

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1701316,00.html

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#37 KillaHalo2o9
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"][QUOTE="DeathStar17"]Rofls, do you think Iran really wants to rumble against the U.S. Navy...Smaug84



:| A Navy wont matter if its a Nuclear War.

Sure you'd like to think of how epic a nuclear war would be, but I'd like to enlighten you

*hint hint* nobodyisgoingtousenukesbecausenobodyiscreazyenoughto destroytheentireworlddwiping outtheveryleaderwholaunchedthemforgettingridofforeigners(US of A)ftw *hinthint*

Nah, a good number of South American countries would be a good place to be in case of a nuclear war, not to mention Africa might look pretty tempting, after all I would rather have skirmishes then radioactive mushroom clouds.

North East Alaska 8)

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#38 rimnet00
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Not really. One overly hyped story means we are going to war with Iran? nope.
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My thoughts: If all this gets large enough we will be bombed and we wont even know what happened because we would be dead.

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[QUOTE="Smaug84"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"][QUOTE="DeathStar17"]Rofls, do you think Iran really wants to rumble against the U.S. Navy...KillaHalo2o9



:| A Navy wont matter if its a Nuclear War.

Sure you'd like to think of how epic a nuclear war would be, but I'd like to enlighten you

*hint hint* nobodyisgoingtousenukesbecausenobodyiscreazyenoughto destroytheentireworlddwiping outtheveryleaderwholaunchedthemforgettingridofforeigners(US of A)ftw *hinthint*

Nah, a good number of South American countries would be a good place to be in case of a nuclear war, not to mention Africa might look pretty tempting, after all I would rather have skirmishes then radioactive mushroom clouds.

North East Alaska 8)

Maybe, I would definately stay away from Europe and the mainland US, China, Russia, and innumerable other countries. New Zealand would probably be nice but I have a sinking suspicion that if I tried going there in such a scenario I would get there just in time for the nuke.

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#41 Smaug84
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Not really. One overly hyped story means we are going to war with Iran? nope.rimnet00

I'm still trying to figure out what five speedboats would have done against something like a destroyer or a carrier, about the only way they could do anything is strap it full of explosives like what happened to the USS Cole.

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Not really. One overly hyped story means we are going to war with Iran? nope.rimnet00

If Hillary Clinton gets elected, it's going to be a different story.

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If for one reason or another, the US were to engage in war with Iran, it would be a bloody mess. They're quite advanced in terms of military if I'm not mistaken. It won't be another cakewalk like IraqKritical_Strike

Yea, Iraq was such a cakewalk. Maybe you don't realise the U.S. doesn't ACTUALLY control all of Iraq, local leaders and islamic insurgents still are fighting all over, especially in the south. US troops die everyday while we bleed billions of dollers a day fighting the war. Iraq was no cakewalk, it still isn't over bud. We need to get stability and set up a democratic, stable government to "win", which is no where in sight.

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[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]If for one reason or another, the US were to engage in war with Iran, it would be a bloody mess. They're quite advanced in terms of military if I'm not mistaken. It won't be another cakewalk like Iraqmfacek

Yea, Iraq was such a cakewalk. Maybe you don't realise the U.S. doesn't ACTUALLY control all of Iraq, local leaders and islamic insurgents still are fighting all over, especially in the south. US troops die everyday while we bleed billions of dollers a day fighting the war. Iraq was no cakewalk, it still isn't over bud. We need to get stability and set up a democratic, stable government to "win", which is no where in sight.

Seems like another Vietnam. :?

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[QUOTE="rimnet00"]Not really. One overly hyped story means we are going to war with Iran? nope.Smaug84

I'm still trying to figure out what five speedboats would have done against something like a destroyer or a carrier, about the only way they could do anything is strap it full of explosives like what happened to the USS Cole.

They wouldn't have done anything. Our Navy is the best in the world.

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#46 mfacek
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[QUOTE="mfacek"]

[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]If for one reason or another, the US were to engage in war with Iran, it would be a bloody mess. They're quite advanced in terms of military if I'm not mistaken. It won't be another cakewalk like IraqKillaHalo2o9

Yea, Iraq was such a cakewalk. Maybe you don't realise the U.S. doesn't ACTUALLY control all of Iraq, local leaders and islamic insurgents still are fighting all over, especially in the south. US troops die everyday while we bleed billions of dollers a day fighting the war. Iraq was no cakewalk, it still isn't over bud. We need to get stability and set up a democratic, stable government to "win", which is no where in sight.

Seems like another Vietnam. :?

It is another Vietnam

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#47 rimnet00
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[QUOTE="rimnet00"]Not really. One overly hyped story means we are going to war with Iran? nope.Smaug84

I'm still trying to figure out what five speedboats would have done against something like a destroyer or a carrier, about the only way they could do anything is strap it full of explosives like what happened to the USS Cole.

Exactly, but the Iranian Republican Gaurd is not Al Qaeda. All I see it as is some Iranian soldiers playing chicken with the US soldiers.

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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="mfacek"]

[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]If for one reason or another, the US were to engage in war with Iran, it would be a bloody mess. They're quite advanced in terms of military if I'm not mistaken. It won't be another cakewalk like Iraqmfacek

Yea, Iraq was such a cakewalk. Maybe you don't realise the U.S. doesn't ACTUALLY control all of Iraq, local leaders and islamic insurgents still are fighting all over, especially in the south. US troops die everyday while we bleed billions of dollers a day fighting the war. Iraq was no cakewalk, it still isn't over bud. We need to get stability and set up a democratic, stable government to "win", which is no where in sight.

Seems like another Vietnam. :?

It is another Vietnam

Makes one wonder when/if the draft will come back into play.

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Not really. One overly hyped story means we are going to war with Iran? nope.rimnet00

Do you remember how WWI was started? Archduke Franz Ferdinand, the heir to the Austro-Hungarian empire was assasinated. But this isn't the real reason the war started. Tensions between European countries is what really started the war. The assasination of Franz Ferdinand was just an excuse to start the war. This is how the war between Iran and the US will start, if indeed there is one. The way the Spanish-American war started is also similar.

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[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]If for one reason or another, the US were to engage in war with Iran, it would be a bloody mess. They're quite advanced in terms of military if I'm not mistaken. It won't be another cakewalk like Iraqmfacek

Yea, Iraq was such a cakewalk. Maybe you don't realise the U.S. doesn't ACTUALLY control all of Iraq, local leaders and islamic insurgents still are fighting all over, especially in the south. US troops die everyday while we bleed billions of dollers a day fighting the war. Iraq was no cakewalk, it still isn't over bud. We need to get stability and set up a democratic, stable government to "win", which is no where in sight.

It took more than 10 years for the US to setup it's government after the Revolution. No one thought we could do it and they laughed at us. In fact, we almost fell apart. Creating a stable government and starting a democracy is no easy task, it takes time and patience. You can't expect this to happen over night.