US won't join landmine treaty (old thread please lock)

We have the right to protect our waterways, and we can limit commercial sea traffic. Not that difficult, considering we have two agencies to patrol the sealanes: the Coast Guard plus the U.S. Navy.

topsemag55

Finally a bada** country that stick to what they believe is right. I mean, as long it's not a panzy evil nation that's doing this.

End sarcasm.

Countries of the world unite and vote

so we can put USA in naughty corner :roll:

There is a reason we are not joining the landmine treaty, that is the DMZ in Korea. Offically I thinkthe US and South Koreaare still at war with North Korea.

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"]

You people do realize the U.S is working on a landmine that will only kill enemies and can/will be disabled after the war is over.

Moo-Moo-Milk

I remember seeing some prototype footage of the new digital mines on a TV show. They look awesome in how effective they are against personnel and vehicles. When you done you can just turn them off and take them home too.

lol. Pack em up and save them for later. That's awesome.

The one I am talking about is about the size of a small crate and has grenade (armor piercing copper headed) launchers for vehicles, and clamor like ones for personnel (the fools who try to approach it). It uses sensors to detect targets. It can also be switched on or off by the battle field commander, and be used for intelligence gathering (those previously mentioned sensors). I wish I could find the video of it.:(

I wish we'd get clustered once in a while.

So when I go to pick up my mail my leg blows clean off.

:roll:

I wish we'd get clustered once in a while.

So when I go to pick up my mail my leg blows clean off.

:roll:

samuraiguns

The world isn't just black and white, There is a reason for this, look at the area between North and South Korea, two nations that area legally at war. There is the reason why we don't want to sign the treaty.

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

I wish we'd get clustered once in a while.

So when I go to pick up my mail my leg blows clean off.

:roll:

Chaos_HL21

The world isn't just black and white, There is a reason for this, look at the area between North and South Korea, two nations that area legally at war. There is the reason why we don't want to sign the treaty.

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

I wish we'd get clustered once in a while.

So when I go to pick up my mail my leg blows clean off.

:roll:

Chaos_HL21

The world isn't just black and white, There is a reason for this, look at the area between North and South Korea, two nations that area legally at war. There is the reason why we don't want to sign the treaty.

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

I wish we'd get clustered once in a while.

So when I go to pick up my mail my leg blows clean off.

:roll:

samuraiguns

The world isn't just black and white, There is a reason for this, look at the area between North and South Korea, two nations that area legally at war. There is the reason why we don't want to sign the treaty.

The nations of North and South Korea are separated by a "Demilitarized Zone", That is a buffer zone set up after the Korean war in the 60s (or maybe the 50s don't remember the date off the top of my head). This area is heavly mined and no body is really allowed in.

Thank God we haven't turned into complete pansies yet.

Pirate700

Yet the US pressures others when they see fit. Let's see how much people come down on them for this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QO_RG_LZuY

smart landmine replacement

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

I wish we'd get clustered once in a while.

So when I go to pick up my mail my leg blows clean off.

:roll:

Welkabonz

The world isn't just black and white, There is a reason for this, look at the area between North and South Korea, two nations that area legally at war. There is the reason why we don't want to sign the treaty.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Thoughts? I for one am very disappointed that the administration is not joining the other countries in banning landmines.

heysharpshooter

You say that now, but when the Chinese/Zombies are storming across an open field to shoot/eat you, you'll be happy to have them.

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Thoughts? I for one am very disappointed that the administration is not joining the other countries in banning landmines.

GazaAli

You say that now, but when the Chinese/Zombies are storming across an open field to shoot/eat you, you'll be happy to have them.

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Thoughts? I for one am very disappointed that the administration is not joining the other countries in banning landmines.

GazaAli

You say that now, but when the Chinese/Zombies are storming across an open field to shoot/eat you, you'll be happy to have them.

Thank God we haven't turned into complete pansies yet.

Pirate700

Considering how many kids and innocents get killed by land-mines, I'm disappointed in this decision.

Ace_WondersX

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Thoughts? I for one am very disappointed that the administration is not joining the other countries in banning landmines.

You say that now, but when the Chinese/Zombies are storming across an open field to shoot/eat you, you'll be happy to have them.

It's understandable why someone would want to stop using them (kids and innocents setting them off after the war ended). But theyre extremely useful during the war. i agree with the US government, so long as they pursue technology that will allow them to safely disarm them once the war is over

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Thoughts? I for one am very disappointed that the administration is not joining the other countries in banning landmines.

heysharpshooter

You say that now, but when the Chinese/Zombies are storming across an open field to shoot/eat you, you'll be happy to have them.

Obviously Hasnt Read World War Z :P

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Thoughts? I for one am very disappointed that the administration is not joining the other countries in banning landmines.

GazaAli

You say that now, but when the Chinese/Zombies are storming across an open field to shoot/eat you, you'll be happy to have them.

Thank God we haven't turned into complete pansies yet.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

You say that now, but when the Chinese/Zombies are storming across an open field to shoot/eat you, you'll be happy to have them.

Sword-Demon

you always talking nonsense about spreading democracy around the world and to save the planet and to make people lives better and all you do is the exact opposite.

Western landmines are the least of our problems....

The ones from WW2 and the civil wars in 3rd world countries are the biggest issue. Modern militaries barely ever use them, but militants just get their hands on them and place em evreywhere. You think the US fought a all out war all over africa for landmines to be maiming people there?

NATO should stop banning weaponry that its forces know how to use and rather concentrate on taking these things away from the 3rd world countries...

[QUOTE="l4dak47"]

You people do realize the U.S is working on a landmine that will only kill enemies and can/will be disabled after the war is over.

GabuEx

How exactly do they propose to make it do this? Will our enemies graciously wear items that will identify them as the bad guys? :P

Good thing. Why handicap ourselves? These treaties mean nothing, when a large scale conflict breaks out all bets are off.

Tannerr33

Geneva Convetions beg to differ.

Some interesting facts. There are an estimated 60 to 110 million ACTIVE landmines in the world. 2 million people are injured or killed by landmines every year (30%-40% of which are children).

They're a terrible weapon. They're not even designed to kill, they're designed to maim people so that they then become a burden of resources.

I think the landmines that the United States uses right now make important area denial weapons.

They're not even designed to kill, they're designed to maim people so that they then become a burden of resources.

RearNakedChoke

Wow i didnt know that.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Thank God we haven't turned into complete pansies yet.

Locke562

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Thank God we haven't turned into complete pansies yet.

Locke562

I see no reason to ban them. They are used in war. Rather the landmine stopped the enemy than a fight ensued. Less loss of life that way....LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"]

You people do realize the U.S is working on a landmine that will only kill enemies and can/will be disabled after the war is over.

darkfox101

How exactly do they propose to make it do this? Will our enemies graciously wear items that will identify them as the bad guys? :P

Because there are aftermaths to laying landmines, people have been dying in Europe for quite some time after the war because they could not remove all of them.

[QUOTE="RearNakedChoke"]

They're not even designed to kill, they're designed to maim people so that they then become a burden of resources.

Zerocrossings

Wow i didnt know that.

Depends on the mine, bouncers were definitely designed to kill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXVCYQ1qix8

here's a AD that received no air time due to *controversial* content apparently.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"]

You people do realize the U.S is working on a landmine that will only kill enemies and can/will be disabled after the war is over.

Pirate700

How exactly do they propose to make it do this? Will our enemies graciously wear items that will identify them as the bad guys? :P

I thought it was old news that the US is one of the countries that isn't part of the ban agreement. So I'm not surprised policy still hasn't changed. If the US were to join the ban, then they would have to demine the entire Korean DMZ.

Good, sounds just as dumb as that treaty to restrict the deployment of cluster weapons.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Thank God we haven't turned into complete pansies yet.

metroidfood

So the banning of a pathetic excuse of a weapon that inflicts massive collateral damage on innocent bystanders years after actual conflicts end = turning into pansies?

Sure.

Good thing. Why handicap ourselves? These treaties mean nothing, when a large scale conflict breaks out all bets are off.

Tannerr33

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QO_RG_LZuY

smart landmine replacement

redbaron3

Thanks for finding the video of the smart mine, I looked every where for it.

This by itself is good enough reason not to have the US ban mines.