USA or CANADA? Wich do you prefer?

United States or Canada? Which of these countries do you choose to live with if you have the chance to receive 120k a year in a great job? And what is the reason for the preference for one of these countries? I can say that the public health system and governmental assistance is wonderful in Canada. But the United States offers greater purchasing power because of low government taxes. Besides being better than living in an ice cube next to Alaska(I'm Kidding)

Anyway, which country would you rather live in? Why?

Canada seems really dead and boring.

I like living in Canada.

Based on my observations, a lot of the smaller cities in the US (away from the coasts) are pretty similar to Canadian cities. Fairly quiet, clean, away from the limelight, people are generally okay. Montreal is my favorite Canadian city. It fits right in with the US cities I'm familiar with.

Obviously, I'm happy with my little world here in the US. But, I have friends and distant relatives I can visit and stay with in Canada.

Like choosing between a rock and a hard place.

USA, for all its faults it's a beautiful, rich country with much more landscape and seasonal diversity then Canada. That's not to say Canada isn't beautiful.

Well, I make that much in the United States, so I guess the USA. However I do like Canada. I went to Vancouver, BC for my honeymoon and I enjoyed it.

I need lists of pro's per country. I've never been to either.

I bet Canada has lower crime rates? That's a big plus for me. What about climate? The USA has pretty much every climate in the world, right? Medical services and public transportation are important too.

Since I was born & raised in U.S, my home country takes the vote. I have nothing against Canada, but I don't see any reasons why I should live there.

I live in Canada so I would have to pick there. Unfortunately i have never been to the US. I only live about 2 hours away from the Saskatchewan/Montana border though so I have peered over the vastness of flat shit and saw the US with my eyes, but that's about it. Only thing I really like about living in the Praries, flat as a fucking tire.

My hometown is Fallon, Nevada and we have a fairly good number (for a small town) of Canadians who call it home. The town is Canada-friendly and has a number of contracts with Canadian companies.

I posted this before. But, it's a common sight every July 4th.

Never lived in either so don't think I can form an opinion. That said, I'm fine here in Europe.

As much as I love the usa for their entertainment I doubt I could adapt to the usa being from europe, canada would probably be easier, allthough I'm not really used to very cold weather either.

Would like to visit both countries though, I can speak the language and the nature is different what you would find in europe. I would love to see the grand canyon, the great lakes and stuff like that.

America of course.

Canada also has two parts so you should perhaps be more clear, Do you mean the French part or the English part. But if I had a gun to my head and had to move to Canada I would pick the English part.

Eh I'm from the US. Prefer the US. Visited Canada a few times. Not really that much different. But colder.

@commander: @korvus: You guys cant pick a whole continent vs 2 countries.

Europe is amazing!

Have you ever visited Portugal? I plan to live there soon.

It is a country of mostly Catholic and conservative. Very quiet and has great food. They eat lots of fish and cod there.

Have you ever visited Calgary, Alberta?

Calgary is a kind of Canadian frozen Texas. Actually, it sounds like a Montana-Texas merger. It is a beautiful city but has a very expressive country culture.

https://www.google.com.br/maps/place/Calgary,+AB,+Canad%C3%A1/@50.7671592,-113.9463753,31190a,35y,331.14h,42.26t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x537170039f843fd5:0x266d3bb1b652b63a!8m2!3d51.0486151!4d-114.0708459

the european member states have a lot more in common with each other than either canada or the usa, especially western europe and also since the uk isn't a part of it anymore.

Yeah but that's cheating lol, its like asking do you like sweet foods or chocolate better?

Sweet foods includes chocolates, so why would anyone say "I like chocolates better", when you could have chocolates as well as everything else.

I don't understand what you actually mean, I picked canada, europe was not on menu. I just said canada since it was one of the two choices.

You chose Canada because it was like Europe, where in Europe exactly? because if you go to Italy, Potrugal, Spain etc, its not like Canada in terms of climate, culture, foods etc.

Then you have the opposite where other countries have similar conditions.

The US, although Canada would still be nice to visit.

Plus, I think a poll would've been nice for this topic.

I live in belgium, and while climate and foods are somewhat different (especially the weather if you go all the way north or south), european member states have a lot more similarities with each other than with usa, and that has a lot more to do than with climate, some specialities in cuisine, and overall culture differences in europe.

Europe is socialist in nature, the usa isn't. I pay a lot of taxes but I have less to worry about, I'm not saying it's better over here but I'm used to it. It would be different if I grew up in the usa.

@littleangrydog: I'm Portuguese :D Born and raised in Lisbon. I live in the Netherlands now though.

@GTR12: I see your point but there's more in common between the European countries than there is setting them apart so with the open borders and all it ends up just being one big country with lots of states that speak different languages :p

Canada. As a European, it seems like the safest and most developed country in the Americas. I could probably never send my little son to school in the U.S. without constant fear.

Have my considerations about Portugal been correct?

It is an incredible country but I realize that many natives from there immigrate to other countries in Europe. I would like to understand why.

Because of the freaks who use guns against their classmates?

Europe does not seem very safe to me after the government has opened the gates for the entreaty of Muslims who eventually blow themselves away.

Yes, the amount of school shootings is crazy. Aside from that, since the safety of my son is the most important to me, I just wouldn't feel safe myself living in a place where nearly everyone owns a gun.

I agree the refugee problem is pretty huge in Europe right now, but since I'm living in the Netherlands, I have nothing to complain. This literally feels like the safest place on Earth to me.

I know where your from, you've been here for ages.

Comparing Belgium to Canada would be ok, but you cant compare ALL of Europe, there's just too many variations in everything.

I get that partly but there's a lot of variations even in European countries.

I am a Canadian living in Japan and id say they both suck. Been to the US many times and it was boring. Everything is so far apart, there is poor access to transit and if you get sick get ready to empty your bank account.

Canada has few big cities and are crazy far. everything is expensive with heavy taxes and no competition. When i first went to Japan the ticket to Japan was only 200 bucks more than to flight to Vancouver lol.

Never been to either, but it would hard to choose. USA appears to have a lot more variety to it, and is almost like 50 countries in one. Would certainly never get dull. Then again, I'd love to go camping out in the Canadian wilderness someday. Ehh... probably a tie.

I'm assuming living in LA is not exactly the same as living in Georgia either :)

Same. Even in Portugal I never really had to worry about crime, and here in the Netherlands I feel safer still, even being an immigrant.

In a lot of ways It's a great country; people are extremely friendly, English speaking foreigners are quite well liked (lucky you XD) and it's a beautiful country...lots of culture, lots of beautiful architecture and the beaches aren't half bad either so as a vacation spot it's great but of course living somewhere is not the same as taking a vacation there.

I've been away for a while but when I was working there I worked 40 hours a week in a physiotherapy clinic and was making slightly under 400 euro a month (compare that with where I'm living now where when I moved here I found a temp job that consisted mostly in hauling boxes around and packing stuff and I was being paid 400+ a week). I lived in a 1 bedroom, bathroom and kitchen apartment that cost me 800 euro a month (it was in Lisbon which is more expensive than the interior, but then again that's where most jobs are) so I needed 2 part times on top of my full time just to pay for the apartment and food. Plus, it's perfectly normal in Portugal for employers to offer you a "job" that pays nothing at all (not even transportation) for the first year/year and a half and after that year and a half they tell you it's "not working" and they ask someone else to take your place on the same non-paying conditions. Then you work until you're 65 and get a miserable retirement. Things seem to be changing from what I hear but not quickly enough.

Work aside, the country is still about a generation behind the rest of Europe in a lot of things, like mentality, equality and in a lot of cases, technology and organization. We haven't been out of dictatorship that long (it ended in 1975) and the country is still hurting for it. We still have a lot of racist and homophobic feeling in the majority of the older population, varying from "f*** all black people" to "I'm not racist, as long as my kid doesn't have black friends or ends up marrying one" (same for gays).

People end up leaving for a lot of those reasons. Personally, I left because I met a Dutch girl and at a point it was either me moving to the Netherlands or her moving to Portugal...it was no choice.

Exactly, so now you get my point.

It also has me questioning the choices now, you cant compare or choose between 2 countries if you have no choice on where to live in the respective country.

Yes, the United States of America is exactly what its name suggests. Different states with different subcultures, living costs, climates, ethnicities and states populated mostly by blacks and others by whites which directly influence the local culture. Talking about big countries like the United States, Canada, Russia, China and Australia is more complex. Europe is a continent that changes culture so abruptly at each border. I think if you choose to compare England with the more American part of Canada things get more logical. But if you try to compare England with the more French part of Canada the prospect will be incomparable. Go to Montreal and compare with France, Europe. Go to Calgary and compare to Texas, USA. And so on.

Canada isnt two parts lol just has some french fries on the side

I live in Calgary,Alberta and wouldn't live elsewhere. Been along the East coast of the U.S. right down to Florida twice, enjoyed it but wouldn't go back. Not East end of the States anyway. Would like to visit L.A. or Vegas one day,hope I get the chance.

lol I didn't know my presence was actually noticed.

I agree that there are a lot of differences in europe but when it comes to laws and politics they have a lot of similarities. Because of that they have more in common with each other than with the usa.

Allthough if I would be actually moving to other countries in europe, the language would certainly be bigger barrier for me than moving to the usa. I can speak english but my french ain't that great and it will never be great. I wouldn't even know where to begin with languages like spanish, german, polisch , italian or swedisch and even culturally I would have difficulties to adapt. Even moving to the netherlands would already be difficult because of the cultural differences, and I do speak the same language.

But the usa would be much more difficult. It would be easier if I was rich though but getting rich in europe is lot more difficult than in the usa, so you could say the system kinda keeps me here, but I don' tmind it, I'm after all kinda happy here.

Canada in a heart beat

I don't think many people want to live in Mexico. It's got some problems.

Only been to Toronto a few times, never been to Calgary but I will put it on the list.

But as to living there, i would never, at least not as long as they have someone as Troudeu

LOL that is saying it mildly, considering that not even Mexicans want to live in Mexico, or at least not the huge illegal population and the "dreamers" who act like Mexico is hell on earth

Dreamers really don't know any country besides the US. They came here as children.

And yet most of their families are in Mexico.

Also, i bet if you check their travel records most have been to Mexico more than once.

You really really persist in the talking points from right wing nut jobs. Honestly if most Republicans would educate themselves they wouldn't vote R or at least the party would be different.

Not really, i am just relaying common sense.

The law is the law and these people should, of course, go home to Mexico.

See this is why conservatives are heartless, selfish people. Mexico....and it's not the only country by the way......is not their home. They were also children and didn't break the law. Their parents did.