Vice President Debate Tim Kaine vs Mike Pence tonight at 9pm ET

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#1  Edited By iandizion713
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The showdown begins tonight. Democratic Vice President nominee Tim Kaine vs Republican Vice President nominee Mike Pence. Should be a good underrated battle. Wont be as many watching due to both candidates not being well known and considered boring. But should be fun none the less.

Mike Pence will look to attack Hillary and focus on economic issues i believe while Tim Kaine will most likely try to focus on social issues some and go for a more balanced approach. If Mike Pence is wise, hell avoid the social issues and beat around the bush, deflect, etc, but if Tim Kaine is smart, hell nail him down and hold him accountable while pushing for a focus on Hillary's social issues.

Heres a good preview of both candidates,

Where to watch? Bout all major and minor news organizations should be streaming the debate live online. And of course basic and paid cable will air them also on TV. Many networks have already started discussions, but i think most pre-shows start around 7-8pm.

A good bipartisan site would be C-SPAN. The debate preview starts at 7:30pm ET and of course the debate starts at 9:00pm ET.

https://www.c-span.org/presidentialDebate/?debate=vice

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#2 Ish_basic
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I am predicting Kaine asks Pence early on if his mic is ok and Pence will at some point talk about "broad shoulders." Other than that, word is Kaine has been brushing up on tax law, so we can probably guess where that's going.

Trump will be live-tweeting

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#4  Edited By iandizion713
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@Ish_basic: Lol, that would be a funny way to open. Mic check 1, 2.

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@PraetorianMan said:

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"The thrilla in vanilla"

(I can't take credit for that)

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Neo-con and a goofball.

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#7 Maroxad
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The republicans are already up to a good start...

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#8  Edited By iandizion713
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@Maroxad: Republicans always make weak ads. Im not sure why they do it, but i guess they feel something is better than nothing.

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#9 Maroxad
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@iandizion713: Democrats are not much better at making ads.

Both focus on non-issues, and have very low emphasis on policy substance.

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#10  Edited By iandizion713
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@Maroxad: Fighting for your family is an Honorable personalty. Thats an amazing and a very empowering ad.

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I don't expect much to come of the debate, probably going to be boring and both sides being more even after all is said and done. Pence seems like a guy who handles himself better in one on one scenarios and debating than Trump ever would. His challenges might being able to defend Trump's comments and play them off as 'nonsense'.

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@iandizion713: @Maroxad:

Her ad about Donald Trump attack on girls having flat chess will win women votes.

lol

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#13  Edited By iandizion713
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Should be lots of fun and a good fight. Both are good speakers, but only one man coming out of this alive. Welcome to the tigers den.

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No one cares for Vice Presidency

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I'm not even planning on staying awake for this whole thing. I will say that Pence is one evil bastard though. Gay hating, Union bashing, trickle down economics, science denying, right wing nutjob purist. Even the Republican voters in Indiana hate him and he chose not to run again because he knew he would loose. Extremely unpopular in Indiana and that's saying something.

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#16  Edited By iandizion713
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@mark1974: Yeah, i heard he made both sides dislike him heavily.

Kaine taken them notes.

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Debate is shaping up to be even MORE petty than the Presidential one. I get it, VP not as important as the Pres, but hot damn, fur is flying in this cat fight.

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I want to punch both

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#19  Edited By iandizion713
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Kaine shut him down nicely on economics. Pence isnt good at answering the question. Dude beating around the bush already.

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#20 LJS9502_basic
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@iandizion713 said:

Kaine shut him down nicely on economics.

As far as what I've been reading on the economy and the proposals....Kaine is telling the truth and Pence is lying.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@iandizion713 said:

Kaine shut him down nicely on economics.

As far as what I've been reading on the economy and the proposals....Kaine is telling the truth and Pence is lying.

In what respect?

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@byof_america:

lol, this pence dude is funny.

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#23 LJS9502_basic
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@mattbbpl said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@iandizion713 said:

Kaine shut him down nicely on economics.

As far as what I've been reading on the economy and the proposals....Kaine is telling the truth and Pence is lying.

In what respect?

Estimates on what both candidates proposals vis a vis tax would do for the economy for one thing.

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@mattbbpl: Kaine was right in Pence blocking minimum wage in Indiana. He refused to raise it from $5 to $7. Stating it would hurt the poor. Not sure why Pence denied it.

"I cant believe you wont defend your own voting record." - Kaine.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@mattbbpl said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@iandizion713 said:

Kaine shut him down nicely on economics.

As far as what I've been reading on the economy and the proposals....Kaine is telling the truth and Pence is lying.

In what respect?

Estimates on what both candidates proposals vis a vis tax would do for the economy for one thing.

Oh, yeah. Well, that's pretty much a given at this point.

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#26  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@iandizion713 said:

@mattbbpl: Kaine was right in Pence blocking minimum wage in Indiana. He refused to raise it from $5 to $7. Stating it would hurt the poor. Not sure why Pence denied it.

He's denying his voting record.......

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@byof_america said:

Debate is shaping up to be even MORE petty than the Presidential one. I get it, VP not as important as the Pres, but hot damn, fur is flying in this cat fight.

This moderator sucks.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@iandizion713 said:

@mattbbpl: Kaine was right in Pence blocking minimum wage in Indiana. He refused to raise it from $5 to $7. Stating it would hurt the poor. Not sure why Pence denied it.

He's denying his voting record.......

He can do that because people wont look at the fact checkers tomorrow and Trump supporters believe in their own reality where fact checkers have a liberal agenda.

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#29  Edited By iandizion713
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Yes, he agreed with Kaine. Thats what you like to hear.

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@iandizion713 said:

@mattbbpl: Kaine was right in Pence blocking minimum wage in Indiana. He refused to raise it from $5 to $7. Stating it would hurt the poor. Not sure why Pence denied it.

"I cant believe you wont defend your own voting record." - Kaine.

I don't know why he denies it, even ignoring his past. Trump has stated as much. It's been the unofficial stance of the party as a whole for years.

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#31  Edited By iandizion713
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A freakin Senator. Yet people still try to ignore our problem. No fear Kaine, no fear. Dang, good point Kaine, good points.

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#32 N64DD
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Shit debate.

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#33  Edited By PSP107
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This Kaine dude spot on about bias issues regards to criminal justice system.

The funny part is alot of people are in denial.

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#34  Edited By iandizion713
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@n64dd: Its a discussion debate, but seems only one wants to have a discussion.

Defend the deplorables Kaine, set the record straight. Hillary did apologize and took responsibility, good point.

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I love how the "deportation president" has a reputation for having open borders on the right.

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@iandizion713 said:

@n64dd: Its a discussion debate, but seems only one wants to have a discussion.

Moderator is helping the democratic side only. It's a biased shit debate. It's a complete circus.

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The deplorables! Lol. Trump offensive? Where did you ever get that from? -Pence

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@n64dd said:
@iandizion713 said:

@n64dd: Its a discussion debate, but seems only one wants to have a discussion.

Moderator is helping the democratic side only. It's a biased shit debate. It's a complete circus.

No but I expect when your dude is not doing well you would believe that.

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#39  Edited By iandizion713
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@n64dd: They can interrupt on parts. But Kaine did get out of line i think twice. Mike Pence only once i saw.

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@iandizion713 said:

@n64dd: They can interrupt on parts. But Kaine did get out of line i think twice. Mike Pence only once i saw.

Eh Pence did a few times himself. Not much control here.

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0 control in this debate.

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#42  Edited By iandizion713
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Ooo he got him good. He left him speechless for a few seconds. Mike thanked Hillary for Osama Bin Laden, thank you Mike.

Got him, he did violate the constitution in blocking Syrian Refugees.

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Ooo he got him good. He left him speechless for a few seconds. Mike thanked Hillary for Osama Bin Laden, thank you Mike.

The fact you think this is a good debate shows a testament to your character. This is shit.

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@n64dd said:
@iandizion713 said:

@n64dd: Its a discussion debate, but seems only one wants to have a discussion.

Moderator is helping the democratic side only. It's a biased shit debate. It's a complete circus.

Liberal bias, amirite?

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#45  Edited By iandizion713
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@n64dd: Why? Kaine is killing it. Republicans gonna be left more confused on Mike Pence after this debate. Mike is just beating around the bunch and not making himself clear.

Kaine telling us more about Trump and Mikes issues then Mike is. He keeps telling Tim hes wrong, but then he wont tell us whats right.

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@mattbbpl said:
@n64dd said:
@iandizion713 said:

@n64dd: Its a discussion debate, but seems only one wants to have a discussion.

Moderator is helping the democratic side only. It's a biased shit debate. It's a complete circus.

Liberal bias, amirite?

A tad.

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@iandizion713 said:

@n64dd: Why? Kaine is killing it.

LOL alright.

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@n64dd said:
@mattbbpl said:
@n64dd said:
@iandizion713 said:

@n64dd: Its a discussion debate, but seems only one wants to have a discussion.

Moderator is helping the democratic side only. It's a biased shit debate. It's a complete circus.

Liberal bias, amirite?

A tad.

If Pence had good points to make or had skill as a debater the moderator wouldn't matter. I don't hear her playing much of a role to be honest.

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#49  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@n64dd said:
@iandizion713 said:

@n64dd: Why? Kaine is killing it.

LOL alright.

Pence is doing the Donald and NOT answering the questions.

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#50  Edited By iandizion713
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Cat fight!

Mike did good stance on Aleppo and Russia. His best highlight. Good counter though Kaine, well played.