Violence returning to Iraq?

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#1 fedora80
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Since the US-led invasion of Iraqin 2003, violence has become part of the daily life of millions of Iraqis, forcing tens of thousands to flee the country or to move to displacement camps in the hope that they would keep their families safe.


However, by the end of 2008, violence reached its lowest level since the invasion, which enabled people to move freely, children to go back to school, and hospitals to open their doors. Yet, the unemployment rate remained the same, which made it easy for resistance groups to recruit a big number of youth.

According to some observers, however, the withdrawal of US troops from city centers has resulted in a re-surge in the level of violence.

The Iraqi forces have moved into position to take over the security of Iraq's city centers, but the successive, deadly attacks raise many questions about their ability to maintain stability in the war-torn country.

According to the political analyst Salam Al-Duleimi, the withdrawal of the US forces has allowed Iraqi resistance groups to flex their muscles in city centers. He also attributes the recent attacks to these groups' dissatisfaction with the performance of the Shiite-led government.


Read more: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1256910053871&pagename=Zone-English-Muslim_Affairs%2FMAELayout#ixzz0wt6lsfMu

I'd have the linky be a linky but Gamespot doesn't like that >.>

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#2 PcGamingRig
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we were never going to win in iraq or afghanistan, and alot of people new that right from the start...

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#3 ToppledPillars
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I wasn't aware violence ever left the region!!

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#4 fedora80
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I wasn't aware violence ever left the region!!

ToppledPillars
According to this journalist from Iraq, it was leaving.
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#5 ToppledPillars
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[QUOTE="ToppledPillars"]

I wasn't aware violence ever left the region!!

fedora80
According to this journalist from Iraq, it was leaving.

is that so?
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#6 bsman00
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THere has been and will always be violence... usa alone killed well over a million innocent civilians.. not relevant but it happened

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#7 F1_2004
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That country got wrecked by the war.
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#8 fedora80
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[QUOTE="fedora80"][QUOTE="ToppledPillars"]

I wasn't aware violence ever left the region!!

ToppledPillars
According to this journalist from Iraq, it was leaving.

is that so?

Did you read the article at all?
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THere has been and will always be violence... usa alone killed well over a million innocent civilians.. not relevant but it happened

bsman00
The United States killed those civilians? Seriously? :|
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#11 fedora80
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To OP:

Its not our country, its not our business.

never was really and was not related to 9/11

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SEANMCAD
Uh... the majority of the stuff up there isn't my words, it's the words of a journalist... from Iraq.... is anyone reading the article?
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#13 bsman00
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[QUOTE="bsman00"]

THere has been and will always be violence... usa alone killed well over a million innocent civilians.. not relevant but it happened

Stevo_the_gamer

The United States killed those civilians? Seriously? :|

well when your dropping bombs on cities civilian casualties are inevitable

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#14 ToppledPillars
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[QUOTE="ToppledPillars"][QUOTE="fedora80"]According to this journalist from Iraq, it was leaving.fedora80
is that so?

Did you read the article at all?

Of course not silly!! It is a war zone I expect nothing less than brutal violence
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#15 -Shrubs-
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OP wants the terrorists to win! Don't read his article!

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#16 T_REX305
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Cant we all just get along???

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#17 Ensamheten
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To OP:

Its not our country, its not our business.

never was really and was not related to 9/11

discusss

SEANMCAD

Don't know if this is an troll attempt because this what the typical US citizen would say. I hope that the rest of the world or at least EU + Norway + Switzerland could block trade with the USA. With nVidia, Intel and AMD off our hardware market EU becomes a much less corrupt place. To begin with we would have to settle with Loongson and Acorn CPUs but then Europe's computer industry will fully recover from the devastation from the second great war. Students from TUM, Cambridge and École Polytechnique would create our own GPU manufacturos(with perfect competition comes better inovation) and EU will become the greatest nation the world has ever seen. And with USA greatly weakned there will be no more wars. We will have world peace for the first time in history. IT WILL BE GLORIOUS! but we have to wait until we get our own satelite positioning system up and running. We can't trust the Russian's GLONASS.

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#18 yesterdayaugust
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That country got wrecked by the war.F1_2004

It was wrecked WAY before the war ever started...by invading Iraq and taking Saddam out of power we actually helped the country. The only problem myself (im a cop in the air force with buddies deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan) and other soldiers have, are the groups of insurgents that keep getting destroyed but keep coming back for more. The US is not over just killing anything that moves...but don't get me wrong it was a mess when we first went over there,because the "true" country folk of Iraq that wanted Saddam out of power would get mixed in with the "anti-americans" crowads. Violence will never leave those two countries or the middle east. The US will always have a presence in both countries as well,we have put in too much time and money into building up bases and air ports over there to just get up and leave them. I am pretty sure that by the time we "pull out" they will make certain bases in Iraq and Afghanistan 1 year volunteer tours...Why you may ask? America is gonna have to keep a presence to show that if the country can not contain itself we will use force,again,to get it under control and to show the country that we did not just come here to "mess up your culture and way of life" we need to show Iraq and Afghanistan that we are there for the people,we are there for help not war.

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#19 _R34LiTY_
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Well, thanks to USA unwarranted invasion, of course it's going to be in shambles after we've raped the country for what it's worth

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#20 tocklestein2005
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I wasn't aware violence ever left the region!!

ToppledPillars
this. Iraq will always be a violent place.
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#21 tocklestein2005
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[QUOTE="T_REX305"]

Cant we all just get along???

simple answer? no.
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#22 SpartanMSU
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THere has been and will always be violence... usa alone killed well over a million innocent civilians.. not relevant but it happened

bsman00

It happened? Link from a trusted source?

Also, you do realize that suicide bombings, like the one that happened today, are included in the statistic, right?

Maybe you should take a stats class and realize how that people with an agenda can for stats in specific ways prove any point they want.

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#23 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="bsman00"]

THere has been and will always be violence... usa alone killed well over a million innocent civilians.. not relevant but it happened

bsman00

The United States killed those civilians? Seriously? :|

well when your dropping bombs on cities civilian casualties are inevitable

We aren't carpet bombing them buddy...whens the last time the U.S. has used a non-smart bomb on a populated city?

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#24 jetpower3
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It's still too early to tell. We still haven't seen the massive car bombings against hard targets re-emerge from last year (when the Foreign, Finance, and several other government ministries were targeted and hundreds killed), and figures are still generally lower than they were last year by some accounts (most notably Iraq Body Count). Personally, I'm finding all of this concern to be rather alarmist on behalf of the media. The combat mission is about to come to an end, and everyone is pointing out violence, but it's no higher than it was last August (personally from my research it's actually lower this August). But the situation all things considered remains fluid, and it will take years longer to get it completely under control. Which is why the decision to rush everyone out of Iraq so quickly is premature. Iraq's top military commander himself said that they (the Iraqi army) would need until about 2020 to be fully ready to assume total control of the country. Even a small American presence would go a long way as a measure of support of the Iraqi security forces and especially deterrence against foreign intervention.

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#25 Fuhgeddabouditt
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well as the U.S troops start pulling out, it was obvious the enemy will do its best to cause as much drama during that process.
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#26 Treflis
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The middle east have been an area of conflict for centuries, that it'll all be over just because the US has be involved was a dream. Unless everybody is pleased down there, there will be conflicts.
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#27 MaxPred2010
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THere has been and will always be violence... usa alone killed well over a million innocent civilians.. not relevant but it happened

bsman00
That's a ****ing lie.
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#28 UnknownSniper65
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="bsman00"]

THere has been and will always be violence... usa alone killed well over a million innocent civilians.. not relevant but it happened

bsman00

The United States killed those civilians? Seriously? :|

well when your dropping bombs on cities civilian casualties are inevitable

You're horribly misinformed.

Sectarian violence accounted for the vast majority of the civilian casualties in Iraq.