Vista is a waste of money?

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#1 TallicaFan2005
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I just saw that Microsoft is releasing a new OS in 2009... So tell my who in the right mind would pay $200-400 or whatever for Vista to use it for two years when it does nothing that XP can't (at least for businesses and all that...a computer is a computer).

You'd have to be pretty stupid to go buy Vista now. I think Microsoft just screwed themselves, nobody is going to buy Vista...

I plan to get an Apple OS in the future anyway.

http://www.windowsvienna.com/
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#2 K4ss3r
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In 2009? That's a lot faster then I thought. I hope they'll include some new and better changes though.
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#3 nick3333
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What happened to that "Longhorn" thing?
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#4 Satanshelper
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Proof?
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#5 TallicaFan2005
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Proof?Satanshelper
Google Windows Vienna. I saw it on the news.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/software/windows-vienna-vista-successor-out-in-two-years-235670.php
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=8377
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#6 KiIIyou
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I'll get both.
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#7 Jerell_rast
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I wasn't planning on buying Windows Vista now, I don't see the need at the moment. I won't mind waiting two more years.
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#8 Tentpole
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Another OS in just 3 years announced? That can't be very good for their Vista sales...
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#9 quack_er
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I think people need to know what Vienna will have and see if it is indeed better than Vista for the average user. Just to write off Vista as a waste of money is awfully ignorant. I think the TC doesn't have much knowledge in O/S development and structure.
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#10 HupHupOranje
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I'll pass on Vista for now. XP is doing a fine job.
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#11 Erasorn
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I think people need to know what Vienna will have and see if it is indeed better than Vista for the average user. Just to write off Vista as a waste of money is awfully ignorant. I think the TC doesn't have much knowledge in O/S development and structure.quack_er
Enlighten us n00bs.. what is so great about Vista that we can't wait two years for? Oh and IMHO, Vista seems to have a worse structure then XP seeing as it seems to require such a good computer just to run it. :?
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#12 Big_Bad_Sad
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Vienna could just be an update of Vista. Like Media Centre is of XP. Im not interested in Vista anyway, MCE is doing fine for me.
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#13 Ninja-Vox
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What happened to that "Longhorn" thing?nick3333
That's Vista.
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#14 Ninja-Vox
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Vienna could just be an update of Vista. Like Media Centre is of XP. Im not interested in Vista anyway, MCE is doing fine for me.Big_Bad_Sad
No it's not. Vista is an improved, fleshed out version of XP with a new look. Vienna is the first OS microsoft have made where they start from scratch. It's supposed to be a fraction of the size of the other OSs, requiring a negligable amount of resources to operate while still being the most advanced OS yet.
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#15 Ninja-Vox
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In 2009? That's a lot faster then I thought. I hope they'll include some new and better changes though.K4ss3r
2010. It's soon, but not THAT soon. Three/four years isn't that bad.
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#16 nickmag
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i bet it'll get delayed though. and a while ago windows was releasing new OS's like crazy. 1995, 1998, ME, XP. plus 95 was supposed to come out in 93, so this new one will prolly get delayed
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#17 Erasorn
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[QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]Vienna could just be an update of Vista. Like Media Centre is of XP. Im not interested in Vista anyway, MCE is doing fine for me.Ninja-Vox
No it's not. Vista is an improved, fleshed out version of XP with a new look. Vienna is the first OS microsoft have made where they start from scratch. It's supposed to be a fraction of the size of the other OSs, requiring a negligable amount of resources to operate while still being the most advanced OS yet.

Srsly?!? That sounds great! I might be able to get my hopes up for that. :)
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#18 Bobby_Oz
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What happened to that "Longhorn" thing?nick3333
Windows Longhorn was just the codename for Vista back in the beta stage. Longhorn was derived from a Barber shop across from the MS UK branch that all the exec's in the UK would go to during lunch. As a matter a fact, right next to it is a rival barber shop known as Black Comb which is the code name for Windows Server 2008. Vista has the potential to be better than XP for the average user due to the interface's design, because lets face it, average users are brain dead when it comes to computers. The sleek easy to navigate GUI is exactly what the base consumer needs as they are to lazy to learn the basics of a fundamental OS. Some may even be scared of learning, as technology still frightens many. On a corporate level though vista offers no advantages due to the complex hardware requirements that a company doesn't feel they need to pay for. This is alleviated somewhat by companies like dell who offer breaks in the cost per unit if they purchase a bulk contract (Like here at Warner Bros where I work). There is always the incompatibility issue with older software that many companies cling to, which makes the transition difficult, and even sometimes impossible. For example some things are still run on NT 4.0, that cant be upgraded due to the fact the manufacturer of the software no longer exists. Or a new version was never released for a WIn98 program that works well enough for the time being. All in all Im going to give it a chance, as it cannot be nearly as bad as ME had been, and it could certainly be made to be a more effective and productive OS then XP was. I also see alot of gaming influence in the design, which leads me to believe PC gaming is about to evolve. One thing is for sure though, its still better than any Mac.
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#19 Big_Bad_Sad
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I might miss out Vista and just wait for that then.
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#20 deactivated-645e897010df8
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Haven't all Windows upgrades (apart from Vista) been released 2/3 years after the previous one?
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#21 Caffeine_Trip
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I won't get a new windows os for a while if I ever do.
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#22 kyleali11
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ill be upgrade in 2015
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#24 zsc4
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What happened to that "Longhorn" thing?nick3333
That is Vista, Longhorn was just a codename. Vista is not a waste of money for most people, actually its free mainly thanks to Crackers.
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#25 TallicaFan2005
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ill be upgrade in 2015kyleali11
Same. I'll probably use XP until at least 2010. There is no reason to change. It does everything you could possibly want and never crashes.
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#26 Erasorn
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Considering they intend to start from scratch (what they originally planned for vista), I think it'll take a bit longer than 2 years.EJ902
They have been working on it since 2000 according to some sources.
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#27 gameroz
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I'll pass on Vista for now. XP is doing a fine job.HupHupOranje
agree ill do the samething
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#28 Taxpaying_Acorn
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I'll pass on Vista for now. XP is doing a fine job.HupHupOranje
It sure is ^_^. The only thing I see Vista doing is making us upgrade the heck out of our systems, and the only pay-off I see is DX10... but that doesn't even count if you don't play the latest and greatest PC games. Waste of money the way I see it.
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#29 Bobby_Oz
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[QUOTE="EJ902"]Considering they intend to start from scratch (what they originally planned for vista), I think it'll take a bit longer than 2 years.Erasorn
They have been working on it since 2000 according to some sources.

2004 actually.
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#30 Hitman_KyeZ
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no i am going to buy it
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#31 metallica_fan42
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I see no need to upgrade my computer, it sucks no matter what upgrade you add to it.
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#33 Bobby_Oz
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[QUOTE="Bobby_Oz"][QUOTE="Erasorn"][QUOTE="EJ902"]Considering they intend to start from scratch (what they originally planned for vista), I think it'll take a bit longer than 2 years.EJ902
They have been working on it since 2000 according to some sources.

2004 actually.

Ah, I see. I knew they had already started it, but I didn't realise it's already 3 years into developement.

They were primarily working on WinFS (Windows Future System) which was to replace NTFS as the main file system, but they couldn't get the file level permissions level to work properly (Which was the main feature on WinFS). Id say about 50% of the code was directly derived from previous Windows Versions.
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#34 nintendo_ds_06
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i wasn't planning on getting vista till december so i might just wait until the new one comes out
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#35 yoporahh
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Vista is a load of crap. i bought it, believe me dont even think about buying it
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#36 Bobby_Oz
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Vista is a load of crap. i bought it, believe me dont even think about buying ityoporahh
Elaborate. :|
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#37 sthadji
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Vista is a load of crap. i bought it, believe me dont even think about buying ityoporahh
Why is Vista 'a load of crap'?
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#38 limpbizkit818
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My old laptop broke, getting a new PC this weekend. No reason for me to not get Vista.
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#39 dawgsfan1447
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I probabl won't get Vista for a while either. XP is doing fine for my Windows machine and the Mac is still ahead of Vista so I'm good.
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#40 Bobby_Oz
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My old laptop broke, getting a new PC this weekend. No reason for me to not get Vista.limpbizkit818
Whats your budget look like for the PC?
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#41 limpbizkit818
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[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]My old laptop broke, getting a new PC this weekend. No reason for me to not get Vista.Bobby_Oz
Whats your budget look like for the PC?

Was thinking of getting a decent $1,000 - $1,500 PC and upgrading later down the road. I have the money saved up so its no big deal to me if I have to send a little extra.
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#42 yoporahh
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[QUOTE="yoporahh"]Vista is a load of crap. i bought it, believe me dont even think about buying itsthadji
Why is Vista 'a load of crap'?

Name 1 reason y it is so great or even good

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#43 Greenwhitegreen
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I'll upgrade when it's free :)
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#44 sthadji
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[QUOTE="sthadji"][QUOTE="yoporahh"]Vista is a load of crap. i bought it, believe me dont even think about buying ityoporahh

Why is Vista 'a load of crap'?

Name 1 reason y it is so great or even good

I don't know. I haven't used Vista. But calling Vista a 'load of crap' is pretty harsh. What's wrong with it?
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#45 limpbizkit818
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[QUOTE="sthadji"][QUOTE="yoporahh"]Vista is a load of crap. i bought it, believe me dont even think about buying ityoporahh

Why is Vista 'a load of crap'?

Name 1 reason y it is so great or even good

No one said it was good. People just want to know why you think it is crap.
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#46 Grouch0de
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What happened to that "Longhorn" thing?nick3333
Vista is Longhorn.
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#47 Erasorn
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My old laptop broke, getting a new PC this weekend. No reason for me to not get Vista.limpbizkit818
Monies?
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#48 Grouch0de
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[QUOTE="nick3333"]What happened to that "Longhorn" thing?Bobby_Oz
Windows Longhorn was just the codename for Vista back in the beta stage. Longhorn was derived from a Barber shop across from the MS UK branch that all the exec's in the UK would go to during lunch. As a matter a fact, right next to it is a rival barber shop known as Black Comb which is the code name for Windows Server 2008.

That's not what I heard. They got the names from the Whistler-Blackcomb ski resort in British Columbia.
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#50 nazaric
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What happened to that "Longhorn" thing?nick3333

I believe thats an OS for servers only not PCs