Volkswagen emissions scandal

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#1 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Surprised there's no thread on this

Scandal explained

Anyone here drive a Volkswagen car?

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#2 Master_Live
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They fucked up, big time. I was laughing last week when the CEO claimed he was staying put, ha, 24 hours in you knew he couldn't survive this, give me a break.

Goes to show, you can't never beat Toyota.

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Audi has also confirmed 2.1 million of their cars involved in scandal. http://www.wsj.com/articles/audi-confirms-2-1-million-cars-involved-in-emissions-scandal-1443436979

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#4  Edited By DrSpoon
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Was gonna say, it isn't just restricted to VW's, other car manufacturers also do it - not that I own one. Well, they were the car that the Nazi's invented :D

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#5 bmanva
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@Aljosa23 said:

Anyone here drive a Volkswagen car?

Or Audi or Porsche or Skoda, all of which are subsidiaries of VW.

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Have a 98 model Golf, But it's not diesel so it's okay.

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@Aljosa23 said:

Surprised there's no thread on this

Scandal explained

Anyone here drive a Volkswagen car?

The better part of my life I´ve owned VW cars.

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#9 DaVillain  Moderator
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I'm not a Volkswagen person who likes there cars so I wouldn't know anything about this scandal.

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#10 bmanva
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@magicalclick said:

@bmanva:

Last time I checked, they also owned Lamborghini.

I am pretty sure both Porsche and Lamborghini are not affected by the scandal because they are expensive cars, which they just raise the price and pay the emission penalty, just like Benz and BMW.

Lambo aren't affected. But Porsche might be, the head of their engine development division quit amidst the scandal. http://gtspirit.com/2015/09/25/vw-scandal-audis-ulrich-hackenberg-and-porsches-wolfgang-hatz-to-quit/

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Who cares? Still cool.

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#13  Edited By horgen  Moderator
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As someone from Norway... I've never encountered a test for fuel consumption that was anywhere close to the actual usage. They are pretty much all a waste for me.

Anyhow I think it is pretty bad that VW did this. Some emissions being 40 times higher than allowed and only passed because of this. That's cheating.

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#14 bmanva
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@themajormayor said:

Who cares? Still cool.

You understand this scandal will have far reaching consequences for not just VW but the auto industry as a whole? There's even talks of this being a "beginning of the end" for VW as auto manufacturer.

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#16  Edited By lamprey263
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Funny that this should even be an issue in America given that half of the voting population sides with the far right that wants to kill the EPA and it's burdensome evil environmental protections and standards and rules in the face of threats like pollution coming from energy industry in form of fracking waste, oil spills, air pollution. But worse IMO is the apathy for these things.

I get why what VW did was a big issue, what I'm baffled by is why the general population and regulatory agencies even care since they all seem to ignore everything else.

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#17 bmanva
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@horgen: Probably because the roads in Norway are very different from the laboratories in which the gas consumption are tested.

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#18 The_Last_Ride
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@Aljosa23: VW is not the only one who have done this

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#20 DammitDanbo
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But does it still hit 50mpg?

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Whatever

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#22 BiancaDK
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o snap, our seas might rise 1-2 years before schedule then

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#24 Riverwolf007
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Sounds like the ideal time to get down to the vw dealership and clean up on desperation sale prices.

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#25  Edited By alim298
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@themajormayor said:

Whatever

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#26 alim298
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I think what's happening in terms of energy consumption, is far worse than any supposed pollution caused by cars. The real polluters of this world (and even the real energy wasters) are mostly factories. Funny how people keep denying the massive pollution load, factories have on Earth's atmosphere and nature.

As for cars, they are a thing of the past. But as long as the fundamental of the world's economy is "If they but it then make it and if it they don't **** it." I think in addition to science being blocked by money-hungry people, we're going to have a real catastrophe on our hands the extent of which won't be clear to us until later generations.

The Earth's resources are limited you know.

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my 918 is just fine :P

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@alim298 said:

I think what's happening in terms of energy consumption, is far worse than any supposed pollution caused by cars. The real polluters of this world (and even the real energy wasters) are mostly factories. Funny how people keep denying the massive pollution load, factories have on Earth's atmosphere and nature.

As for cars, they are a thing of the past. But as long as the fundamental of the world's economy is "If they but it then make it and if it they don't **** it." I think in addition to science being blocked by money-hungry people, we're going to have a real catastrophe on our hands the extent of which won't be clear to us until later generations.

The Earth's resources are limited you know.

That's not really factual. Here's the EPA's breakdown of GHG contribution percent by sources (industry is only bit higher than transportation).

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#32 bmanva
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@magicalclick: Sure that's a possibility, but I don't think it would impact the numbers all that much.

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@The_Last_Ride said:

@Aljosa23: VW is not the only one who have done this

Not the only one to do what? It wasn't just that they lied about their emissions. They installed computer chips or some kind of device to fool the tests that were done. That's malfeasance.

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#35 The_Last_Ride
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@sonicare said:
@The_Last_Ride said:

@Aljosa23: VW is not the only one who have done this

Not the only one to do what? It wasn't just that they lied about their emissions. They installed computer chips or some kind of device to fool the tests that were done. That's malfeasance.

i think it's naive to think they're the only ones