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#1 CJL13
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http://www.salon.com/2012/10/09/walmart_strikes_spread_to_more_states/

Thoughts?

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Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

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Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

Pirate700

Actually, Wal-Mart pretty much shuttered all the main streets around these parts. Now instead of a bike store, a book store, a shoe store, a hair salon, etc., there's just Wal-Mart.

It sucks.

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Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

Pirate700

Yes, they should be thankful for not having health insurance, and for having wages so low they might as well be on welfare, and for Walmart running all other possible places of employment out of town.

These employees are just being ungrateful scum!

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Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

Pirate700

But when walmart comes to town, lots of smaller stores often have to shut down... They likely could have had jobs at those other, pre-walmart stores.

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Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

Pirate700
haha oh wow
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#7 Dogswithguns
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Better off without shops like WalMart.. they ruined everyone's businesses.. small stores around here all closed becuz of it.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

br0kenrabbit

Actually, Wal-Mart pretty much shuttered all the main streets around these parts. Now instead of a bike store, a book store, a shoe store, a hair salon, etc., there's just Wal-Mart.

It sucks.

Agreed. They also pay extremely terrible despite their profits. They rely on a high-turnover rate to keep wages low. It's a scumy company.

Though I worked for Target and they did the same thing.

Wal-Mart and the other big shoping corps didn't create jobs, they just shifted them from locally owned business to their own.

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Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

Pirate700

lol come on man, you know better than that.

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#10 Novotine
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I used to work at Wal-Mart after I lost my actual job for a couple of months - they really treat their employees like complete crap.
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I used to work at Wal-Mart after I lost my actual job for a couple of months - they really treat their employees like complete crap. Novotine

And they know they can get away with it because the turnover is so high and the economy is so bad that many people have few or no alternatives for work.

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Wal-mart is a very crappy company.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

br0kenrabbit

Actually, Wal-Mart pretty much shuttered all the main streets around these parts. Now instead of a bike store, a book store, a shoe store, a hair salon, etc., there's just Wal-Mart.

It sucks.

I agree and thats what I have been saying about Wal-Mart. Theres a Wal-Mart near me and all the mom and pop store are deserted. On its left a movie theatre, on its right a publix and in front a church. I wish more emphasis would be put on the small businesses of middle America. I miss the good old family owned businesses, but I grew up in a small town on Ashburn so it felt more like a united community of small business owners helping the community. Here in FL its Wal Mart, Movie Theaters, restaurants, or Malls filled with snobs. I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart. It blows I miss Virginia. Hope they didn't ruin the scenery by splatting a Wal-Mart on a small American town.
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Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

Pirate700

Actually they might have been able to get jobs elsewhere if Wal-Mat didn't strangle out all the locally-owned business.

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Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

Pirate700

HA!

That's rich, rosebud............

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Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

Pirate700

Better not be critical towards the government, afterall your lucky that your safe and secure thanks to the security provided by them.. You realize how fvcking stupid this logic is right?

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

worlock77

Actually they might have been able to get jobs elsewhere if Wal-Mat didn't strangle out all the locally-owned business.

it's called competition, become a better business or get destroyed.

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#18 C2N2
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

bigfoot2045

Yes, they should be thankful for not having health insurance, and for having wages so low they might as well be on welfare, and for Walmart running all other possible places of employment out of town.

These employees are just being ungrateful scum!

Working at walmart isn't a career... If you apply for a job there hoping for decent pay, benefits, and long term advancement then you have failed in life...

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

kingkong0124

Actually they might have been able to get jobs elsewhere if Wal-Mat didn't strangle out all the locally-owned business.

it's called competition, become a better business or get destroyed.

It's not actually competition when you cannot possibly compete.

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[QUOTE="Novotine"]I used to work at Wal-Mart after I lost my actual job for a couple of months - they really treat their employees like complete crap. bigfoot2045

And they know they can get away with it because the turnover is so high and the economy is so bad that many people have few or no alternatives for work.

That can be said for any minimum wage job though.
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#21 limpbizkit818
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Better off without shops like WalMart.. they ruined everyone's businesses.. small stores around here all closed becuz of it.Dogswithguns
Is wal-mart to blame or the consumers that flock there to save a few bucks? The community abandoned those local businesses, wal mart didn't kill them.
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#22 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

bigfoot2045

Yes, they should be thankful for not having health insurance, and for having wages so low they might as well be on welfare, and for Walmart running all other possible places of employment out of town.

These employees are just being ungrateful scum!

Yeah I agree, competition sucks.

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#23 worlock77
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Are people seriously trying to defend the business practices of the corporation that has a highest percentage of employees on public aid than any other company in the US?

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Are people seriously trying to defend the business practices of the corporation that has a highest percentage of employees on public aid than any other company in the US?

worlock77
They're not doing anything that is illegal, it's just capitalism.
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#25 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Are people seriously trying to defend the business practices of the corporation that has a highest percentage of employees on public aid than any other company in the US?

Toxic-Seahorse

They're not doing anything that is illegal, it's just capitalism.

Legal ain't the point. The fact is they're a parasitic company that are ultimately a huge drain on communities and society.

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[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Are people seriously trying to defend the business practices of the corporation that has a highest percentage of employees on public aid than any other company in the US?

worlock77

They're not doing anything that is illegal, it's just capitalism.

Legal ain't the point. The fact is they're a parasitic company that are ultimately a huge drain on communities and society.

How so? Who's forcing the people in these communities to shop there? They can just as well go to the "mom-and-pop" stores if they choose.

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

kingkong0124

Actually they might have been able to get jobs elsewhere if Wal-Mat didn't strangle out all the locally-owned business.

it's called competition, become a better business or get destroyed.

You're pitching a wheel-chair retard against Usain Bolt and yelling 'Get better, bi***.'. How alienated are you?

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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Actually they might have been able to get jobs elsewhere if Wal-Mat didn't strangle out all the locally-owned business.

iHarlequin

it's called competition, become a better business or get destroyed.

You're pitching a wheel-chair retard against Usain Bolt and yelling 'Get better, bi***.'. How alienated are you?

So this "wheel-chair retard of a business would be better serving of it's customers than the Usain Bolt of a business?

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[QUOTE="iHarlequin"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

it's called competition, become a better business or get destroyed.

SpartanMSU

You're pitching a wheel-chair retard against Usain Bolt and yelling 'Get better, bi***.'. How alienated are you?

So this "wheel-chair retard of a business would be better serving of it's customers than the Usain Bolt of a business?

In the long run, yes. Small businesses lead to a better distribution of wealth (more people making an average-decent amount of money, rather than a few making absurd amounts of money) than behemoth companies. Over a longer period of time, the number of employees would be similar, the amount of revenue generated similar, but the profits would be distributed more evenly. Most Americans (and, consequently, most gamespot posters) abhore the notion of limitting a company's reach and state-enforced boundaries, so I can understand why this is a controversial opinion here.

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#30 limpbizkit818
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Are people seriously trying to defend the business practices of the corporation that has a highest percentage of employees on public aid than any other company in the US?

worlock77
No, wal-mart is scum. Especially the way they abuse suppliers to get lower prices. But the fact remains that consumers do not need to shop there. Low income families survived before wal mart showed up and can do it again (and they're not the only ones shopping at wal mart). Far too many people only care about price when making a purchasing decision: I have seen people buy the "great value" brand so they could save 3 cents. Really?! People don't care about labor abuse in China. It lowers prices. People don't care about the lack of benefits given to wal mart workers. It lowers prices. People don't care about buying local products. They cost more. Most people didn't think about how this would affect them until it was too late. Trust me, I tell everyone I know to shop elsewhere. I'm just very disillusioned with my fellow citizens......
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[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="iHarlequin"]

You're pitching a wheel-chair retard against Usain Bolt and yelling 'Get better, bi***.'. How alienated are you?

iHarlequin

So this "wheel-chair retard of a business would be better serving of it's customers than the Usain Bolt of a business?

In the long run, yes. Small businesses lead to a better distribution of wealth (more people making an average-decent amount of money, rather than a few making absurd amounts of money) than behemoth companies. Over a longer period of time, the number of employees would be similar, the amount of revenue generated similar, but the profits would be distributed more evenly. Most Americans (and, consequently, most gamespot posters) abhore the notion of limitting a company's reach and state-enforced boundaries, so I can understand why this is a controversial opinion here.

You're assuming that the prices these small businesses are selling their products at are the same. You're also assuming that the prices of these products won't change with an increase in wages.

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I wonder if it will spread to the UK too (ASDA is owned by Wal-Mart).
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[QUOTE="iHarlequin"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

So this "wheel-chair retard of a business would be better serving of it's customers than the Usain Bolt of a business?

SpartanMSU

In the long run, yes. Small businesses lead to a better distribution of wealth (more people making an average-decent amount of money, rather than a few making absurd amounts of money) than behemoth companies. Over a longer period of time, the number of employees would be similar, the amount of revenue generated similar, but the profits would be distributed more evenly. Most Americans (and, consequently, most gamespot posters) abhore the notion of limitting a company's reach and state-enforced boundaries, so I can understand why this is a controversial opinion here.

You're assuming that the prices these small businesses are selling their products at are the same. You're also assuming that the prices of these products won't change with an increase in wages.

The only thing I'm assuming is that we can agree that, given certain benefits, paying more for a product is worth it (for society as a whole, not the consumer as an individual). You (Americans) of all people should know the best, with how you're exporting most of your raw production to China and other third-world countries where labour is cheaper.

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[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="iHarlequin"]

In the long run, yes. Small businesses lead to a better distribution of wealth (more people making an average-decent amount of money, rather than a few making absurd amounts of money) than behemoth companies. Over a longer period of time, the number of employees would be similar, the amount of revenue generated similar, but the profits would be distributed more evenly. Most Americans (and, consequently, most gamespot posters) abhore the notion of limitting a company's reach and state-enforced boundaries, so I can understand why this is a controversial opinion here.

iHarlequin

You're assuming that the prices these small businesses are selling their products at are the same. You're also assuming that the prices of these products won't change with an increase in wages.

The only thing I'm assuming is that we can agree that, given certain benefits, paying more for a product is worth it (for society as a whole, not the consumer as an individual). You (Americans) of all people should know the best, with how you're exporting most of your raw production to China and other third-world countries where labour is cheaper.

That has nothing to do with what I said and is basically just rhetoric. You did the exact same thing in the other thread where you clearly demonstrated you have no idea how capital markets work or why they exist.

Why do you assume these things? I need an explanation.

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

kingkong0124

Actually they might have been able to get jobs elsewhere if Wal-Mat didn't strangle out all the locally-owned business.

it's called competition, become a better business or get destroyed.

Yeh cuz a small business can somehow compete with a corporate giant. hurr durrr
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#37 iHarlequin
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[QUOTE="iHarlequin"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

You're assuming that the prices these small businesses are selling their products at are the same. You're also assuming that the prices of these products won't change with an increase in wages.

SpartanMSU

The only thing I'm assuming is that we can agree that, given certain benefits, paying more for a product is worth it (for society as a whole, not the consumer as an individual). You (Americans) of all people should know the best, with how you're exporting most of your raw production to China and other third-world countries where labour is cheaper.

That has nothing to do with what I said and is basically just rhetoric. You did the exact same thing in the other thread where you clearly demonstrated you have no idea how capital markets work or why they exist.

Why do you assume these things? I need an explanation.

Why do I assume this? Because it iss what I think, and it being what I think, it is what I consider more humane. It's awfully petty to think that shaving a few dollars every time you go to the market is more important than the general welfare of society. It's your right to have a diferring opinion, however.

You're right, though: it was stupid of me to assume that we'd agree on such a topic.

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Wal mart should at least pay higher man.
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Why do people hate competition? Walmart is in business like everyone else.
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Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

Pirate700

This is true.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Most Walmart workers are lucky the store is even around or they wouldn't be able to get jobs anywhere. They should be thankful, not striking.

bigfoot2045

Yes, they should be thankful for not having health insurance, and for having wages so low they might as well be on welfare, and for Walmart running all other possible places of employment out of town.

These employees are just being ungrateful scum!

When I worked at Wal-Mart, the health benefits were good. I started at $7.50, and for the next three years I''ve gotten a $3.50 raise which was good money 10 years ago (not great, but good). Then I became a Dept. Manager and left 6 months later to go back to school. The biggest problem I had in Wal-Mart was the fact that so many people working were miserable and lazy. Complaining all the time. But never wanted to better themselves. Now, the sales are nowhere near what they used to be and less freight is being stocked. Naturally that results in less hours. But also Obamacare is going to cost Wal-Mart an additional several thousands of dollars. I talked to a friend of mine higher up in walmart and he basically said they were shifting people from full to part time as a result of the law starting in 2010. And also from stiffer competition from Target and Kroger, their own Walmarts nearby, and even the proximity Walmart Neighbourhood Market stores.