What an intersting email...

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#1 gabymimi1
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So my father recently received and email regarding a class a certain student had to take.

The Censored words are "class"



"Let me explain the problem science has with religion.'
The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his ****and then asks one of his new students to stand.
'You're a Christian, aren't you, son?'
'Yes sir,' the student says.
'So you believe in God?'
'Absolutely. '
'Is God good?'
'Sure! God's good.'
'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?'
'Yes'
'Are you good or evil?'
'The Bible says I'm evil.'
The professor grins knowingly. 'Aha! The Bible! He considers for a moment. 'Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?'
'Yes sir, I would.'
'So you're good...!'
'I Wouldn't say that.'
'But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't.'
The student does not answer, so the professor continues. 'He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Can you answer that one?'
The student remains silent. 'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax 'Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?'
'Er..yes,' the student says.
'Is Satan good?'
The student doesn't hesitate on this one. 'No.'
'Then where does Satan come from?'
The student falters. 'From God'

'That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?'
'Yes, sir..'
'Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?'
'Yes'
'So who created evil?' The professor continued, 'If God created everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil.'
Again, the student has no answer. 'Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?'
The student squirms on his feet. 'Yes.'
'So who created them?'
The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question. 'Who created them?' There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the room. The ****is mesmerized. 'Tell me,' he continues onto another student. 'Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?'
The student's voice betrays him and cracks. 'Yes, professor, I do.'
The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?'
'No sir. I've never seen Him.'
'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?'
'No, sir, I have not..'
'Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?'
'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.'
'Yet you still believe in him?'
'Yes'
'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist... What do you say to that, son?'
'Nothing,' the student replies.. 'I only have my faith.'
'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats. 'And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith.'
The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His own. 'Professor, is there such thing as heat? '
' Yes.
'And is there such a thing as cold?'
'Yes, son, there's cold too.'

'No sir, there isn't.'

The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. 'You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit d own to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.'
Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the ****room, sounding like a hammer.
'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?'
'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation.. 'What is night if it isn't darkness?'
'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word. In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?'
The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. 'So what point are you making, young man?'
'Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.'
The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. 'Flawed? Can you explain how?'
'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student explains.. 'You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought.' 'It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it.'

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'Now tell me, professor.. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?'
'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do.'
'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?'
The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.
'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?'
The ****is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided. 'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean.' The student looks around the room. 'Is there anyone in the ****who has ever seen the professor's brain?' The ****breaks out into laughter. 'Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir.' 'So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?'
Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable. Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. 'I Guess you'll have to take them on faith.'
'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life,' the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?' Now uncertain, the professor responds, 'Of course, there is. We see it Every day. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in The multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.'
To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.'
The professor sat down.

The student who told the professor this statement was none other than Albert Einstine

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#3 194197844077667059316682358889
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I appreciate you offering to step in for my grandma by forwarding spam, but please don't
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#4 gabymimi1
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I am sorry you lack the attention span toread it

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#5 194197844077667059316682358889
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I am sorry you lack the attention span toread it

gabymimi1
No need
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#6 XilePrincess
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Gosh that was a waste of time to read.
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#7 Teenaged
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So (from reading the first part), the professor goes on an Epicurian ramble and then the student replies with semantics to "pwn" him and appear smart and/or take his "revenge".

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#8 cybrcatter
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This may be one of the worst threads I've ever seen.
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#9 PerfectCircles
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I appreciate you offering to step in for my grandma by forwarding spam, but please don'txaos
:lol: I have gotten this exact forward from my Grandma! I regret the day we showed her how to use the computer.
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#10 gabymimi1
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This may be one of the worst threads I've ever seen. cybrcatter
whats wrong with it?
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#11 mitu123
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2 words: Blog it!

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#12 xhellcatx
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.... thanks for the spam mail. Jeeze. And yes, I read it... cause i thought there would be a point.
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#13 Wilfred_Owen
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Heres one I got recently: Professor: Son God isn't real. Student: He's real. Totally real. Other 399 students in class heads aslpode. Fin
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#14 Teenaged
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As for the second part, the student goes on with a train of thought that would only work against arrogant science supporters (if we can use that word) and then goes on with faulty parallelisations.

Frankly, they both suit each other.

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#15 Wolls
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Gosh that was a waste of time to read. XilePrincess
My thoughts exactly :(
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#16 Dylan_11
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This may be one of the worst threads I've ever seen. cybrcatter
Black text on black background, giant font, misspelled Einstein. I agree with you.
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Nice font color, nice large text that fills one page up per character, very easy to read.
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#18 MasterBolt360
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It seems to me anyone who says this is dumb to read really hasn't proved anything wrong. :?

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#19 Teenaged
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It seems to me anyone who says this is dumb to read really hasn't proved anything wrong. :?

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Prove what wrong?

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#20 194197844077667059316682358889
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It seems to me anyone who says this is dumb to read really hasn't proved anything wrong. :?

MasterBolt360
Other than staging a ludicrous, fictitious argument and cramming a hapless historical figure into it?
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#21 LILSMUCK
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Thanks

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#22 MasterBolt360
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[QUOTE="MasterBolt360"]

It seems to me anyone who says this is dumb to read really hasn't proved anything wrong. :?

Teenaged

Prove what wrong?

I really don't know. It just seems like the email was interesting and it seemed to be something to spark a debate about, but all I see is "what a dull looking thread.", "Sure is a boring thread." I just thought there would be another religious debate. :S
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[QUOTE="MasterBolt360"]

It seems to me anyone who says this is dumb to read really hasn't proved anything wrong. :?

xaos

Other than staging a ludicrous, fictitious argument and cramming a hapless historical figure into it?

Ah so this is another one of those attempts to prove that Einstein was a theist?

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#24 xhellcatx
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TC, if you wanted to create a religious debate thread, you should have done it a whole different way. The way you just did it basically has us reading someone elses debate that really gives us... what? nothing really. We cant argue with the original author cause they arent here. Theres really no point to this thread but to basically spread spammail, since im sure like everyone and their uncle's grandparents has at one point received this in their inbox. You even stated it was received via email. .... It was better off blogged if you found it 'inspirational' ...
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#25 MasterBolt360
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="MasterBolt360"]

It seems to me anyone who says this is dumb to read really hasn't proved anything wrong. :?

Teenaged

Other than staging a ludicrous, fictitious argument and cramming a hapless historical figure into it?

Ah so this is another one of those attempts to prove that Einstein was a theist?

I honestly have no idea. This email looks no different than the other hundred I've read online.
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#27 MystikFollower
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Made for an entertaining read at least.

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#28 warownslife
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Well that gave me something to think about. I still don't believe in god though.

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I think of more interesting things while I'm day dreaming.
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#30 metroidfood
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When I saw the thread title, I knew this was going to be the bogus Einstein/professor/God email.

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#31 Crayzorder
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Haha, "Spoken by Einstein". That gets me every time I see this.

It was a decent read IMO up until "Evil is the absence of God". He goes all parallelist than just falls right back into his linear thoughts at the end.

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#32 lamprey263
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I have more stimulating conversations with my johnson.
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#33 comp_atkins
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wtf is this? my hotmail junk account??
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#34 fidosim
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I have more stimulating conversations with my johnson.lamprey263
This Johnson guy seems like a smart fellow.
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#35 NintendoNite
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that convo is bs. no professor would EVER say we evolved from monkeys. That is a common misconception. True professors in that area would know that we shared the same ancestors as monkeys but we did not evolve from it
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#36 comp_atkins
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so there happened to be someone in the class before anyone really knew who einstein was to record verbatim what he said? then kept it written down for decades until the internet was invented so they can send it around the world?
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#37 warownslife
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so there happened to be someone in the class before anyone really knew who einstein was to record verbatim what he said? then kept it written down for decades until the internet was invented so they can send it around the world?comp_atkins
Either that or einstein invented the first computer and didn't tell anyone.

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#38 LIONHEART-_-
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Interesting indeed.

EDIT: But I doubt that Albert Einstein himself said it. Proof that he really said it or it didn't happen.

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#39 8-Bitterness
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tl;dr i know the story already anyway, the student's answer sucked butt, even though the professors argument was just as retarded... i would just say hey so is god my pal? no? then i dont care bout the dude
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#40 kipohippo021
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Good email. I liked it. I dont get why alot of people dont like it, its pretty intresting. Lazies.
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#41 kipohippo021
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that convo is bs. no professor would EVER say we evolved from monkeys. That is a common misconception. True professors in that area would know that we shared the same ancestors as monkeys but we did not evolve from itNintendoNite
we did evolve from monkeys... cavemen evolved from monkeys too, we evolved from them. And we all evolved from the dinosaur which means we are all ba.
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#42 LIONHEART-_-
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[QUOTE="NintendoNite"]that convo is bs. no professor would EVER say we evolved from monkeys. That is a common misconception. True professors in that area would know that we shared the same ancestors as monkeys but we did not evolve from itkipohippo021
we did evolve from monkeys... cavemen evolved from monkeys too, we evolved from them. And we all evolved from the dinosaur which means we are all ba.

Continue, it's getting interesting :?