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Really, they mess up our economy, raise tax for the middle class, so why are you a Republican?

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An elephant > a donkey
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They don't screw up the country like the Democratic congress.
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#4 majoras_wrath
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Free tax breaks!

That disguise the overall rise in prices.

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If you're rich, you get richer :P
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#6 Squall18
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Well, I'm not sure why everyone wants to be a republican.

However, your thread is a bit misleading. It was not only republicans that messed some things up, but also Nancy Pelosi and and the Dems on Congress and the Senate. Of course no one would admit it on the media, but its a combination effort that got us to where we are.

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#7 jfcundiff
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They don't screw up the country like the Democratic congress.Pittfan666

The Congress has a lower approval rating than Bush does. Shows how much change they have made since being elected in 2006.

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#8 GabuEx
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If you agree that what the Republicans propose as solutions to the country's problems would work, it would make sense to be one and vote for them.
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They hand out free cookies at meetings.
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#10 H8sMikeMoore
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to make sure that neo cons get less votes in their own party. we need traditional conservatism badly.
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#11 Mr_Manikin52
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Really, they mess up our economy, raise tax for the middle class, so why are you a Republican?

psu5

I was born during the Reagan Era! Feburary 6, 1985!

I ALWAYS vote Republican since I was raised in a Conservative Family.

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#13 tman93
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If I made over 250,000 dollars, I would vote Republican.
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#14 Sajo7
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to make sure that neo cons get less votes in their own party. we need traditional conservatism badly.H8sMikeMoore
Although I disagree I'd much rather have real conservatism than this neocon crap.
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#15 H8sMikeMoore
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]to make sure that neo cons get less votes in their own party. we need traditional conservatism badly.Sajo7
Although I disagree I'd much rather have real conservatism than this neocon crap.

theres nothing worse than collectivism. Especially if it has a religious intent like neocons. Yuck

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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]to make sure that neo cons get less votes in their own party. we need traditional conservatism badly.Sajo7
Although I disagree I'd much rather have real conservatism than this neocon crap.

Who was the first neocon, and how did they gain popularity?

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[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]to make sure that neo cons get less votes in their own party. we need traditional conservatism badly.entropyecho

Although I disagree I'd much rather have real conservatism than this neocon crap.

Who was the first neocon, and how did they gain popularity?

I dont know who the first one was. But they were former socialists. Most people dont like to notice that little bit of info.

that bill kristol guy on fox news has a family history in it though.

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Protection.
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Protection.GTA_dude

Now that's a flat-out lie, and I can't believe you would fall for this far-right propaganda.

I don't see George Bush leading the fight against ManBearPig.

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They don't screw up the country like the Democratic congress.Pittfan666
QFT. We don't take money from hard working people and give it to lazy people too.
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#21 monkeytoes61
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Also, universal healthcare is dumb as hell, and that's what Obama is making noise about.
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Also, universal healthcare is dumb as hell, and that's what Obama is making noise about.monkeytoes61

Haha, pretty much. For that, you get one Stanley Nickel!

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#23 Mr_Manikin52
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[QUOTE="GTA_dude"]Protection.tbone29

Now that's a flat-out lie, and I can't believe you would fall for this far-right propaganda.

I don't see George Bush leading the fight against ManBearPig.

Dominating the Middle East which I FULLY support!8) Give them a taste of freedom!

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[QUOTE="tbone29"]

[QUOTE="GTA_dude"]Protection.Mr_Manikin52

Now that's a flat-out lie, and I can't believe you would fall for this far-right propaganda.

I don't see George Bush leading the fight against ManBearPig.

Dominating the Middle East which I FULLY support!8) Give them a taste of freedom!

Good for you. I feel the same way.

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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Also, universal healthcare is dumb as hell, and that's what Obama is making noise about.Squall18

Haha, pretty much. For that, you get one Stanley Nickel!

What's the ratio of Schrute Bucks to Stanley Nickels?
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[QUOTE="Squall18"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Also, universal healthcare is dumb as hell, and that's what Obama is making noise about.monkeytoes61

Haha, pretty much. For that, you get one Stanley Nickel!

What's the ratio of Schrute Bucks to Stanley Nickels?

About 5000: 1.

Also, "Bears beat Battlestar Galactica."

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[QUOTE="Mr_Manikin52"][QUOTE="tbone29"]

[QUOTE="GTA_dude"]Protection.jfcundiff

Now that's a flat-out lie, and I can't believe you would fall for this far-right propaganda.

I don't see George Bush leading the fight against ManBearPig.

Dominating the Middle East which I FULLY support!8) Give them a taste of freedom!

Good for you. I feel the same way.

Joke post? :?

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="Mr_Manikin52"][QUOTE="tbone29"]

[QUOTE="GTA_dude"]Protection.Sajo7

Now that's a flat-out lie, and I can't believe you would fall for this far-right propaganda.

I don't see George Bush leading the fight against ManBearPig.

Dominating the Middle East which I FULLY support!8) Give them a taste of freedom!

Good for you. I feel the same way.

Joke post? :?

I feel that we should not control the whole territory, but help them establish a government where they can experience freedom and vote for their leaders. I do not believe though that we should control everything.

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[QUOTE="Pittfan666"]They don't screw up the country like the Democratic congress.monkeytoes61
QFT. We don't take money from hard working people and give it to lazy people too.

What are you talking about :? Obama wants to Tax cut 95% of the united states population, every one below 250k.. And the people above 250k are getting a slight increase.. Top that off all the taxes are still lower then what they were in the 90s :|..

Not promoting one side over the other.. Just saying this kind of ignorance is startling and I hope you arn't voting with such flawed perspective.

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Really, they mess up our economy, raise tax for the middle class, so why are you a Republican?

psu5

They don't deal with people like you?

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#31 Sajo7
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I feel that we should not control the whole territory, but help them establish a government where they can experience freedom and vote for their leaders. I do not believe though that we should control everything.

jfcundiff

Thats a nice gesture, but considering our credibility is pretty much gone. They'll have to work at these things themselves.

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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Also, universal healthcare is dumb as hell, and that's what Obama is making noise about.Squall18

Haha, pretty much. For that, you get one Stanley Nickel!

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=482678

Guys I don't know if you know anything about the issue.. But you do realize recent studies has shown that the United States health system is FAR from good.. INfact in this study its in last place in almost every catagory except one.

Now does this mean that socialistic health care is the best way? Who knows.. But Obama's ideas does have some good ideas.. For instance I am sure every one here is for giving health care to all children..

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#33 H8sMikeMoore
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[QUOTE="Squall18"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Also, universal healthcare is dumb as hell, and that's what Obama is making noise about.sSubZerOo

Haha, pretty much. For that, you get one Stanley Nickel!

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=482678

Guys I don't know if you know anything about the issue.. But you do realize recent studies has shown that the United States health system is FAR from good.. INfact in this study its in last place in almost every catagory except one.

Now does this mean that socialistic health care is the best way? Who knows.. But Obama's ideas does have some good ideas.. For instance I am sure every one here is for giving health care to all children..

the thing that really messes up our system is the fact that we have it attatched to our employers which also ties people to bad jobs, also its keeping doctor visits expensive due to lack of competition.

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a lot of our problems right now can be blamed on the things clinton did just before he left office. not to mention we could have had the oil from anwr or be close to having that oil right now if they didnt have there heads up there butts. also al gore screwed everyone over with his stupid propaganda and overexaggeration of global warming.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Squall18"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Also, universal healthcare is dumb as hell, and that's what Obama is making noise about.H8sMikeMoore

Haha, pretty much. For that, you get one Stanley Nickel!

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=482678

Guys I don't know if you know anything about the issue.. But you do realize recent studies has shown that the United States health system is FAR from good.. INfact in this study its in last place in almost every catagory except one.

Now does this mean that socialistic health care is the best way? Who knows.. But Obama's ideas does have some good ideas.. For instance I am sure every one here is for giving health care to all children..

the thing that really messes up our system is the fact that we have it attatched to our employers which also ties people to bad jobs, also its keeping doctor visits expensive due to lack of competition.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/HealthCareFullPlan.pdf

Indepth plan of Obama, not quite sure on it.. Its pretty radical..

Under the Obama plan, the typical family will save up to $2,500 every year through:

�� Health IT investment, which will reduce unnecessary spending in the system that

results from preventable errors and inefficient paper billing systems;

�� Improving prevention and management of chronic conditions;

�� Increasing insurance industry competition and reducing underwriting costs and

profits, which will reduce insurance overhead;

�� Providing reinsurance for catastrophic coverage, which will reduce insurance

premiums; and

�� Making health insurance universal, which will reduce spending on uncompensated

care.

But its pretty interesting read that gives a clearer view on exactly what he wants to do.

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#36 Manutebecker
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Well, I'm not sure why everyone wants to be a republican.

However, your thread is a bit misleading. It was not only republicans that messed some things up, but also Nancy Pelosi and and the Dems on Congress and the Senate. Of course no one would admit it on the media, but its a combination effort that got us to where we are.

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You get a light saber.
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a lot of our problems right now can be blamed on the things clinton did just before he left office. not to mention we could have had the oil from anwr or be close to having that oil right now if they didnt have there heads up there butts. also al gore screwed everyone over with his stupid propaganda and overexaggeration of global warming.xbox360isgr8t

I find that I agree with this. And I'm still curious as to what Al Gore did to deserve a Nobel Prize.

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to make sure that neo cons get less votes in their own party. we need traditional conservatism badly.H8sMikeMoore
Best. Post. Ever.

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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Squall18"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Also, universal healthcare is dumb as hell, and that's what Obama is making noise about.sSubZerOo

Haha, pretty much. For that, you get one Stanley Nickel!

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=482678

Guys I don't know if you know anything about the issue.. But you do realize recent studies has shown that the United States health system is FAR from good.. INfact in this study its in last place in almost every catagory except one.

Now does this mean that socialistic health care is the best way? Who knows.. But Obama's ideas does have some good ideas.. For instance I am sure every one here is for giving health care to all children..

the thing that really messes up our system is the fact that we have it attatched to our employers which also ties people to bad jobs, also its keeping doctor visits expensive due to lack of competition.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/HealthCareFullPlan.pdf

Indepth plan of Obama, not quite sure on it.. Its pretty radical..

Under the Obama plan, the typical family will save up to $2,500 every year through:

�� Health IT investment, which will reduce unnecessary spending in the system that

results from preventable errors and inefficient paper billing systems;

�� Improving prevention and management of chronic conditions;

�� Increasing insurance industry competition and reducing underwriting costs and

profits, which will reduce insurance overhead;

�� Providing reinsurance for catastrophic coverage, which will reduce insurance

premiums; and

�� Making health insurance universal, which will reduce spending on uncompensated

care.

But its pretty interesting read that gives a clearer view on exactly what he wants to do.

the absolute nail in the coffin for universal healthcare is our deficit.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Squall18"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Also, universal healthcare is dumb as hell, and that's what Obama is making noise about.H8sMikeMoore

Haha, pretty much. For that, you get one Stanley Nickel!

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=482678

Guys I don't know if you know anything about the issue.. But you do realize recent studies has shown that the United States health system is FAR from good.. INfact in this study its in last place in almost every catagory except one.

Now does this mean that socialistic health care is the best way? Who knows.. But Obama's ideas does have some good ideas.. For instance I am sure every one here is for giving health care to all children..

the thing that really messes up our system is the fact that we have it attatched to our employers which also ties people to bad jobs, also its keeping doctor visits expensive due to lack of competition.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/HealthCareFullPlan.pdf

Indepth plan of Obama, not quite sure on it.. Its pretty radical..

Under the Obama plan, the typical family will save up to $2,500 every year through:

�� Health IT investment, which will reduce unnecessary spending in the system that

results from preventable errors and inefficient paper billing systems;

�� Improving prevention and management of chronic conditions;

�� Increasing insurance industry competition and reducing underwriting costs and

profits, which will reduce insurance overhead;

�� Providing reinsurance for catastrophic coverage, which will reduce insurance

premiums; and

�� Making health insurance universal, which will reduce spending on uncompensated

care.

But its pretty interesting read that gives a clearer view on exactly what he wants to do.

the absolute nail in the coffin for universal healthcare is our deficit.

No doubt that it will be a problem.. Though in the 60 minutes special he said he wasn't gonna spend more to the deficit but try to cut needless expenses and refine programs.. Who knows though.

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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Squall18"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Also, universal healthcare is dumb as hell, and that's what Obama is making noise about.sSubZerOo

Haha, pretty much. For that, you get one Stanley Nickel!

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=482678

Guys I don't know if you know anything about the issue.. But you do realize recent studies has shown that the United States health system is FAR from good.. INfact in this study its in last place in almost every catagory except one.

Now does this mean that socialistic health care is the best way? Who knows.. But Obama's ideas does have some good ideas.. For instance I am sure every one here is for giving health care to all children..

the thing that really messes up our system is the fact that we have it attatched to our employers which also ties people to bad jobs, also its keeping doctor visits expensive due to lack of competition.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/HealthCareFullPlan.pdf

Indepth plan of Obama, not quite sure on it.. Its pretty radical..

Under the Obama plan, the typical family will save up to $2,500 every year through:

�� Health IT investment, which will reduce unnecessary spending in the system that

results from preventable errors and inefficient paper billing systems;

�� Improving prevention and management of chronic conditions;

�� Increasing insurance industry competition and reducing underwriting costs and

profits, which will reduce insurance overhead;

�� Providing reinsurance for catastrophic coverage, which will reduce insurance

premiums; and

�� Making health insurance universal, which will reduce spending on uncompensated

care.

But its pretty interesting read that gives a clearer view on exactly what he wants to do.

the absolute nail in the coffin for universal healthcare is our deficit.

No doubt that it will be a problem.. Though in the 60 minutes special he said he wasn't gonna spend more to the deficit but try to cut needless expenses and refine programs.. Who knows though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-16u9x3tfE

watch that

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There are no benefits to being an actual Republican, because you'd just have to watch "from inside" as the party is wrecked by NeoCons as real conservative values are ignored.
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They don't believe in paying people to do nothing? Other than that, I got nothing.
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Usually help increase buisness which can help increase employment.. If you've got someone good who can get these things done.. (bush Does not count)
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#46 DrummerJon
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Balme the new Republicans. Raising spending and cutting taxes, DURF DURF DURF

A real Republican lowers spending and taxes, small government basically. Since it's run so poorly I recomend Libertarian Party.

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#47 Sajo7
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There are no benefits to being an actual Republican, because you'd just have to watch "from inside" as the party is wrecked by NeoCons as real conservative values are ignored.MetroidPrimePwn

IMO the last real conservative to be president was Eisenhower.

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#48 Thevenin167
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you get to go to meetings as with any political party, thats about it really :P .
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#49 Jacobistheman
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Really, they mess up our economy, raise tax for the middle class, so why are you a Republican?

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Well, Joe Biden and Bill Clinton changed the Freddie Mac and Fanny May thing that according to Fox and MSNBC and a lot of internet sites started this economy thing, also the congress is the one who could have prevented it, not the president, so the democratic and republican congresses messed it up. If you are trying to attack John Mccain he brought the Freddie Mac, and Fanny May thing up in 2002, 2004, and wrote a bill in 2007 trying to fix it. Also they haven't raised Middle ****taxes. Mccain is also trying to lower taxes for the people and corporations writing everyons checks, and investing in the economy, making the financial situation better for everyone. Another fact is that there was 20% more tax revinue under Bush than Clinton, even though bush gave a tax cut to everyone.

There is a famous quote by someone that says "A government big enough to give you everything is big enough to take it all away" this includes retirement money (social security)and heath-care (medicare, socialized medicine). Last if you didn't know putting your money into government programs is the least efficient way to do anything, and government take over makes everything worse and more expensive, if you ever talk to someone in Canada about there health care system you will understand.

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#50 Jacobistheman
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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="Pittfan666"]They don't screw up the country like the Democratic congress.sSubZerOo

QFT. We don't take money from hard working people and give it to lazy people too.

What are you talking about :? Obama wants to Tax cut 95% of the united states population, every one below 250k.. And the people above 250k are getting a slight increase.. Top that off all the taxes are still lower then what they were in the 90s :|..

Not promoting one side over the other.. Just saying this kind of ignorance is startling and I hope you arn't voting with such flawed perspective.

How can he cut taxes on 95% when 45% of people don't pay taxes, except death tax and some other taxes that he will increase. Why should he take money from people making 250k a year and give it to people making less, all that leads to is less rich and more poor. Look at what happened in The Soviet Union, Cuba and other Communist Countries when they tried wealth redistribution.