Fascinating to think about the morality questions that it raises, but the movie itself is absolutely horrifying, in my opinion.
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Fascinating to think about the morality questions that it raises, but the movie itself is absolutely horrifying, in my opinion.
the book or the film??
I can barely understand what's going on the book, but the movie is quite good though still overrated.
Don't know what clockwork orange is, but if it's anything like Agent Orange, then it's totally rad. I dig your sig btw. What tier are you?Fascinating to think about the morality questions that it raises, but the movie itself is absolutely horrifying, in my opinion.
CaptainAhab13
I thought it told the story about choice of morality pretty well, though it didn't touch upon anything new or thought-provoking.
Didn't care for the movie. Seemed like a tasteless attempt to make something profound that failed miserably.
One of my favorite movies of all time. The main character is so evil, but at the same time, so likeable. It really does a great job critizicing society. It has so many shocking scenes. I had to watch it more then once to truly understand it though.
Kubrick should be tolchoked in the gulliver for omitting the last chapter of the book.
OrkHammer007
I agree with this statement, and I haven't seen the movie but I loved the book, don't think I will get around to watching the film though, just not really interested in it.
The book he read (the US version) didn't have the final chapter. Although he did say even if he had known about the final chapter, he wouldn't have included it. Also, the final chapter is terrible.Kubrick should be tolchoked in the gulliver for omitting the last chapter of the book.
OrkHammer007
[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]The book he read (the US version) didn't have the final chapter. Although he did say even if he had known about the final chapter, he wouldn't have included it. Also, the final chapter is terrible.I respectfully disagree with the bolded part. Because I see that some haven't read the book yet...Kubrick should be tolchoked in the gulliver for omitting the last chapter of the book.
sammyjenkis898
[spoiler] Much of Alex's criminal activity stemmed from his immaturity and lack of life experience. The last chapter was a way of showing that he had grown up, matured, and realized that his actions had consequences, without the need for the radical treatments imposed on him by the scientists. [/spoiler]
Yes, it seems to come from left field, and it does seem to be out of character from the rest of the novel. However, given what happened to him up to that point, it does make some sense.
(Of course, that's my opinion, and you're welcome to disagree with it at will. :D )
Fixed the spoiler. Sorry.
I respectfully disagree with the bolded part. Because I see that some haven't read the book yet...I haven't read the book, but I know how it ended. I think the movie is better off without the last chapter. It would've been a really awkward ending, and it would've taken away from the themes of the film. Again, I haven't read the book for myself, but I have discussed the differences between the film and the book with friends, and the conclusion I've reached is that while the book and the film are both similar in nature, they are two independent works making different points.Yes, it seems to come from left field, and it does seem to be out of character from the rest of the novel. However, given what happened to him up to that point, it does make some sense.
(Of course, that's my opinion, and you're welcome to disagree with it at will. :D )
Fixed the spoiler. Sorry.
OrkHammer007
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Kubrick should be tolchoked in the gulliver for omitting the last chapter of the book.
DarkGamer007
I agree with this statement, and I haven't seen the movie but I loved the book, don't think I will get around to watching the film though, just not really interested in it.
IIRC, I don't believe the last chapter is even printed in all versions of the book. Still, I think this movie is one of the finer book to film adaptations ever made.
I haven't seen the movie yet (its on my "to do" list), but I liked the book. It was incredibly dark and nihilistic at some points while I also felt nothing but contempt for the main character (though I guess that was the point), but it had a good morality play and was well written and paced.
One of the most over-hyped pieces of crap ever made.
It reminds me of people at an art gallery, staring at a blank canvas and saying things like "it's brilliant", or, "the artist is a genius, this really speaks to me"
Gimme a break.
The film doesn't tell the story as well as the book (where's the last chapter gone?) but it's still great
Brilliant movie. Tried watching it when I was a teen and couldnt get past the "old in and out" part, turned the movie off I was so shocked. I watched it a few months back now and loved it, dont know why I was so disturbed about it all really. Amazing make up, acting, very brutal but in a artistic way.
Don't know what clockwork orange is, but if it's anything like Agent Orange, then it's totally rad. I dig your sig btw. What tier are you? I haven't played in a few weeks, but I believe I'm tier three for pretty much all the modes (as a standard player).[QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"]
Fascinating to think about the morality questions that it raises, but the movie itself is absolutely horrifying, in my opinion.
JigglyWiggly_
The film doesn't tell the story as well as the book (where's the last chapter gone?) but it's still great
toast_burner
The last chapter wouldn't have made sense in the movie.
one of my favorite sci-fi movies of all time. i'm getting ready to rewatch it since it is now on netflix in hd and i have not seen it in hd yet.
Yes, it seems to come from left field, and it does seem to be out of character from the rest of the novel.
OrkHammer007
I don't see how given that the book is a satire on crime and punishment.
The last chapter is included in the latest releases of the novel. I had to head for Borders when I re-read it recently to finish it off.IIRC, I don't believe the last chapter is even printed in all versions of the book. Still, I think this movie is one of the finer book to film adaptations ever made.
QuistisTrepe_
[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]
Yes, it seems to come from left field, and it does seem to be out of character from the rest of the novel.
QuistisTrepe_
I don't see how given that the book is a satire on crime and punishment.
I was anticipating a possible argument against including the final chapter in the movie. It's a trick I learned from reading "Helter Skelter."(I seem to be having issues w/ quoting this week. Sorry.)
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