What did you think of the Heroes Season 3 Premere? *spoilers might come*

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#1 Neoyamaneko
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I think I'm going to wait until the end of the season and then watch them all one by one back to back because my faith in the show recovering due to Kring's Japanophilia and a shooting schedule not tainted by a looming WGA strike was dashed when I saw how many characters were retconned, reset, and resurrected. And while Kring admitted that part of the reason Season 2 failed was because of his Japanophilia...it's back and stronger than ever.

Also, these "chapters" were supposed to be new stories with only a couple of characters from the previous chapter to tie into the next. That de-evolved into the same characters with a few new characters in a new story to the chapters being a continuation of the Season 1 story....a complete 180 from what was promised....and even this story has stalled.

They still don't know what they want "the company" to be yet. It's changed disposition, goals, and bosses 3 times in 3 years. And inside of all the radical changes made from season to season, there are all sorts of little microchanges throughout. Complexity is one thing, but it's like they're being complex with "the company" because even they don't know what it fully is yet. Kind of like what NBC/Sci-Fi did on BSG with the "Cylon Plan".

I mean, I hope the show gets better, but with as many promises that weren't delivered on in this show and the elements present in the show that have usually equalled "JTS" for other shows (i.e. Reset Button)...I'm not very optimistic.

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#2 web966
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I forgot to watch it. I'll watch it later.
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#3 Big_player
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As a show it was entertaining, but the story just feels so disjointed and there are too many characters causing them to have about 5-8 minutes on screen a show. They really need to do something to pull everything together and simplfy the extremely over the top complexity and entanglement of the characters.
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#4 Scarker
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I don't really see the mass appeal in this show, but I'll probably watch this on the weekend maybe.
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#5 viewtiful26
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I don't really see the mass appeal in this show, but I'll probably watch this on the weekend maybe.Scarker

The show was good...once. This season premiere were filled with so many predicatable, cliche plot twists, with lame characters that go no where. Maya has become even whinier about her powers but still sleeps with Mohinder for no apparent reason. Mohinder has become a much more arrogant tool and wants to become powerful and distribute his abilities among others, and it still feels out of character for him to do so.

In the conclusion, Sylar is revealed to be related to the Petrelli family. At least, Peter and Nathan's mom said that he was her son. You mean after two seasons this is who you conclude the season premiere!? Is she speaking figuratively? Because otherwise that would make a ridiculous plot point.

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I thought the premeir was pretty good, but I'm confused about something. Is "present" Peter stuck inside that bald guy from level 5's body? Or does that guy just think he is Peter?
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#7 InsomniacZombie
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Well Heroes is one of my favorite shows, prolly 2nd behind Lost. But it was off the air for so long, when I started to watch it, I realized that I totally forgot what what going on. But after a while most of it came back to me.

Now, being a huge Xmen comic collector, It is very Very VERY hard to ignore the obvious tie ins. With super powers there is only so much that you can do, so I accept the telepathy, healing, strength, fire, now ice too and all the other ones, but.... **SPOILER** when they introduced the Level 5 escapee with magnetism powers, it let out a quite loud WTF. Did they have to go there?? Theres no reason they needed to.

But I do love that damn show.

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Maya has become even whinier about her powers but still sleeps with Mohinder for no apparent reason. Mohinder has become a much more arrogant tool and wants to become powerful and distribute his abilities among others, and it still feels out of character for him to do so.

viewtiful26

I hated this part the most. Maya isn't even like that, and even moments before then she was kinda angry at him, dumbbbb.

So far I'm liking the Hiro storyline the most because he's my favorite anyway and it's funny and whimsical. Matt's part may be interesting since that guy he met made those paintings of the world splitting. Everything else is kinda meh, from Claire's weird "I'm not human" thing to that healer guy being a ghost (wtf?).

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#9 omfg_its_dally
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[QUOTE="viewtiful26"]

Maya has become even whinier about her powers but still sleeps with Mohinder for no apparent reason. Mohinder has become a much more arrogant tool and wants to become powerful and distribute his abilities among others, and it still feels out of character for him to do so.

blackheart1889

I hated this part the most. Maya isn't even like that, and even moments before then she was kinda angry at him, dumbbbb.

So far I'm liking the Hiro storyline the most because he's my favorite anyway and it's funny and whimsical. Matt's part may be interesting since that guy he met made those paintings of the world splitting. Everything else is kinda meh, from Claire's weird "I'm not human" thing to that healer guy being a ghost (wtf?).

Yeah, I've always liked Hiro's storylines. He is probably my favorite character. Peter's storyline looks pretty promising too. And by the way, I hate Maya. She is way too emotional and annoying.

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I liked it, but I'm very, very confused. But, I guess that was the idea. I'm actually disliking Hiro right now. From the way he was talking, one could argue that he was so bored that he purposely put the Earth in Danger just so he could save it. That my friend, is what I call a D*** Move.
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#11 viewtiful26
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I thought the premeir was pretty good, but I'm confused about something. Is "present" Peter stuck inside that bald guy from level 5's body? Or does that guy just think he is Peter?omfg_its_dally

The future Peter told Angela Petrelli that he put Peter inside that guy's body...which is ridiculously silly, since I'm a bit confused...If Peter's mind is in the body of a criminal, where is his body? That, and why the heck would future Peter do that to his previous self? That's pretty emo now that I think about it.

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#12 Neoyamaneko
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So far I'm liking the Hiro storyline the most because he's my favorite anyway and it's funny and whimsical.

blackheart1889

Hiro is whiny and annoying to me. And while the spoken Japanese is ok...the fact that it sounds like everyone in "Japan" except Hiro's sister speaks Japanese like its their second language breaks the illusion for me. I think living 10 years in Japan has spoiled me in that respect.

And I hope they don't build Matt's new buddy into a "Magic Negro" archetypical character. DL wasn't like that and he was one of my favorite characters. Why they killed him off but no-acting Nikki manages to stick around well past her "gotten sick of" date astounds me.

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#13 XCyberForceX
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Overall I gave it a B+.

However, there are two things I find rather interesting.

Mohinder - The smartest stupid man on T.V. I guess he never watched the move "The Fly". Looks like he's turning into the next BrindleFly.

Petrelli Mother - The I am your mother act was done so long ago in Star Wars "I am your father", give me a break.

I guess the superhero world be it Marvel, DC, or movies may have exhausted all types of superheros that it's inevitable that Heroes may seem to reinvent the wheel.

I did like the fact that the future Peter, with all his power, is not able to wield his power in fear of screwing this up in the future even more. I was getting a little worried that he and Skylar were getting too power for the show. I like the idea of one power for one hero scenario.

The writting was great and the show gripping. Can't wait until next Monday.

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I think I'm going to wait until the end of the season and then watch them all one by one back to back because my faith in the show recovering due to Kring's Japanophilia and a shooting schedule not tainted by a looming WGA strike was dashed when I saw how many characters were retconned, reset, and resurrected. And while Kring admitted that part of the reason Season 2 failed was because of his Japanophilia...it's back and stronger than ever.

Also, these "chapters" were supposed to be new stories with only a couple of characters from the previous chapter to tie into the next. That de-evolved into the same characters with a few new characters in a new story to the chapters being a continuation of the Season 1 story....a complete 180 from what was promised....and even this story has stalled.

They still don't know what they want "the company" to be yet. It's changed disposition, goals, and bosses 3 times in 3 years. And inside of all the radical changes made from season to season, there are all sorts of little microchanges throughout. Complexity is one thing, but it's like they're being complex with "the company" because even they don't know what it fully is yet. Kind of like what NBC/Sci-Fi did on BSG with the "Cylon Plan".

I mean, I hope the show gets better, but with as many promises that weren't delivered on in this show and the elements present in the show that have usually equalled "JTS" for other shows (i.e. Reset Button)...I'm not very optimistic.

Neoyamaneko

it was good but bloody confusing .

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i really enjoyed the season 3 premiere...i'm liking the direction almost every character is going in
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I was wondering when someone would have a power than made them change into something animalistic, but what the heck was growing out of Mohinder's back? Were they scales? And I'm not sure why the "Sound Manipulator" guy got a "You don't want to know" profiling. Not exactly sure how that power would work, maybe make something too loud and blow out an eardrum?

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#17 Ontain
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I liked it, but I'm very, very confused. But, I guess that was the idea. I'm actually disliking Hiro right now. From the way he was talking, one could argue that he was so bored that he purposely put the Earth in Danger just so he could save it. That my friend, is what I call a D*** Move.MicWazowski

I agree i thought that was stupid too. also that in season 2 we see that he's now a formidable warrior. but that little chick beat him up so easy and suckered him the second time. it was like he forgot everything from last season.

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#18 bsman00
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Well Heroes is one of my favorite shows, prolly 2nd behind Lost. But it was off the air for so long, when I started to watch it, I realized that I totally forgot what what going on. But after a while most of it came back to me.

Now, being a huge Xmen comic collector, It is very Very VERY hard to ignore the obvious tie ins. With super powers there is only so much that you can do, so I accept the telepathy, healing, strength, fire, now ice too and all the other ones, but.... **SPOILER** when they introduced the Level 5 escapee with magnetism powers, it let out a quite loud WTF. Did they have to go there?? Theres no reason they needed to.

But I do love that damn show.

InsomniacZombie

o man i love that pic man!!!

ANYway the new episode was great IMO... seems like it will be alot better than last season...i hope they put in more action... thank god sylar got his powers back

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#19 Theokhoth
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I think it was awesome.