What do you all think of the 90,000 classified leaked documents?

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#1 Chrypt22
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As a lot of you have heard, wikileaks.org posted 90,000 leaked documents in regards to the Afgahn war. So far, a lot of what has been posted is not that critical, but it goes without saying that it stillputs peoples lives at risk because of it. Being assoicated with the military very closely, I take it as a personal attack against myself and others because of the leaked documents. My reasoning is that someone that posts this sort of information just to support their bullcrap political agenda at the risk of lives is selfish and hypocritical. They are hypocritical because in not supporting the war in Afgahnistan, they are hoping it goes badly for the US and Alliesin the ammount of lives lost. So in essence, they are against "war" but they will try and make the situation worse to support their cause. Not only is it putting US and Allies lives at risks, but civilians on the ground. They make a big deal about accidental civilian casualties, but what about the documents that point to civilians in Afgahnistan that help the US and Allies? Hmmm... seems like they dont give a crap about anyone accept their ratings and how many "hits" they get on their site, and their obvious weak attempt to undermine the war. They alsosay they are trying to prove war crimes... even though there are no war crimes. War crimes is just a term thrown around by the extreme left to provoke a response. They want to see war crimes, therefore any civilian death they see on paper will be a war crime...

Personally I wish there was some way to arrest and prosecute the owner of wikileaksand persons involved, but I know that is probably just wishful thinking.

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#2 Engrish_Major
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I'll update you when I'm through with them. I've only read a few thousand so far.
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#3 MillenialFair99
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I think that's too big a number for me to read them all.
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#4 FragStains
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They are not bad. Although, I didn't really like that part when the alien character was introduced. It didn't seem like the right time for it to take a turn into science fiction.
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#5 tocklestein2005
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i heard that it's all pretty low-level stuff...but "leaked" anything is probably bad...

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#6 Mr_Alexander
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I don't know man, I'm still waiting for the movie adaption.

But seriously, I think it's good. The government shouldn't only publicize the information that makes them look good, if anyone's "put at risk", then it's the military's fault for making these mistakes, not Wikileak's. That's like saying, "John told the police I murdered someone, so it's because of John that I am in jail"

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#7 XaosII
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Then why are those documents classified in the first place? Sure many of them are because they can put the US and specific people at risk. but then, many of those documents are also simply because the military doesnt want it made public because it makes them look bad.

I can see both sides of the argument regarding the site.

Personally, i se it as a form of "aggressive but peaceful" protest. Taking the site down is akin to removing the right to protest. But the site definitely isnt playing nice and fair.

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#8 Bloodseeker23
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I don't know man, I'm still waiting for the movie adaption.

But seriously, I think it's good. The government shouldn't only publicize the information that makes them look good, if anyone's "put at risk", then it's the military's fault for making these mistakes, not Wikileak's. That's like saying, "John told the police I murdered someone, so it's because of John that I am in jail"

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But then, we gotta look good all the time, right?
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#9 Renevent42
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I don't believe the government should keep secrets from us anyways. Too much is classified...most of it needlessly for other reasons than our "safety".
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#10 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="XaosII"]

Then why are those documents classified in the first place? Sure many of them are because they can put the US and specific people at risk. but then, many of those documents are also simply because the military doesnt want it made public because it makes them look bad.

I can see both sides of the argument regarding the site.

Personally, i se it as a form of "aggressive but peaceful" protest. Taking the site down is akin to removing the right to protest. But the site definitely isnt playing nice and fair.

Would it not be considered treason instead of protest? This if it was a U.S. website.
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#11 jetpower3
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It, like a lot of information regarding war, does not sound surprising, assuming you know your stuff when it comes to the military and war. Everything I'm hearing about this current leak in the media seems extremely sensationalized at best.

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#12 Espada12
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Personally I'd hang the guy who leaked those. From a people point of view though this is a good thing, from a security point of view it's bad.. how can someone leak so many documents in one go? I'd hang him just to make an example tbh.

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#13 sno2point0
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... alright so personally i'm not going to offer my opinion on the actual subject of this, both sides are severely at fault, but i'd just like to say your whole post makes you sound like somebody from the far right, whether you are or not, which will unfortunately get you a LOT of hate on these forums.
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#14 flazzle
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I don't believe the government should keep secrets from us anyways. Too much is classified...most of it needlessly for other reasons than our "safety".Renevent42

Well, I think some privacy is in order, because documents like this can be misused and taken out of context. Just last week we had someone lose their job because a video was taken out of context. Imagine what can be done with some of the 90,000 documents.

While some say there is stuff that can make the military look bad, there is also stuff I'm sure than misrepresented as well.

I'd rather see things kept in their proper context.

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#15 lamprey263
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I'm more interested in the 14 million recovered White House emails the Bush administration unsuccessfully erased, and when will we get to see what was in those.
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#17 Darthmatt
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Personally I don't like being lied to like a child by the gorenment. I don't need to know every technical detail of the US militaries operations. But I do take issue if a Taliban shoots down a US chopper with a Stinger missile and the pentagon plays it off as mechanical trouble. They act as if the general public can't handle the truth.