What do you call people who use overly complex words to try and sound intelligent?

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#1  Edited By deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I don't mean people that use the English language properly. But have you read something or been a part of a conversation where you can tell the person is trying way too hard? Whether it's pretentiousness or an attempt to make oneself seem more educated, it usually just makes the person look like an ass.

Certainly, some words are far more descriptive, but you guys know what I mean, right?

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#2 Master_Live
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Pedantic.

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#3 Master_Live
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Or GazaAli.

Can't go wrong either way.

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#4 LJS9502_basic
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@Master_Live said:

Or GazaAli.

Can't go wrong either way.

Hahaha..........

On topic....I don't think it's necessarily the words but some people write paragraphs and don't actually say anything substantive.

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#5 foxhound_fox
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@Master_Live nailed it. Twice.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Master_Live said:

Or GazaAli.

Can't go wrong either way.

Hahaha..........

On topic....I don't think it's necessarily the words but some people write paragraphs and don't actually say anything substantive.

lol
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Irregardless-ers

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@Master_Live said:

Or GazaAli.

Can't go wrong either way.

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#9  Edited By Gaming-Planet
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The style of the way I speak or write is only appropriate to the matter of the situation I am in.

eg.,

Business talk/writing

Casual talk/writing

Trying to sound smart all the time among your peers will only make you look like an ass. Don't assume everyone has the same skill levels as you do that correlate with your vocabulary.

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@magicalclick said:

@sonicare:

They sounds like geeks to me. I sometimes sounds like a geek too. So, I need to remind myself that not everyone talks geek.

When I mean, geek, I mean geek in general, whether it is tech, or math, or literature, or med, or military code, or etc. People who can't communicate at same level of audience, simply lacks the creativeness to express their technical terms in a simpler easier to understand alternative terms.

The ability to communicate with wider audiences is a skill that most of us overlooked.

Sometimes it's not their inability to communicate as their unwillingness, firm in their belief that they are somehow above the people they see on a day to day basis. I think some of it is a self defense mechanism.

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@magicalclick said:

@sonicare:

They sounds like geeks to me. I sometimes sounds like a geek too. So, I need to remind myself that not everyone talks geek.

When I mean, geek, I mean geek in general, whether it is tech, or math, or literature, or med, or military code, or etc. People who can't communicate at same level of audience, simply lacks the creativeness to express their technical terms in a simpler easier to understand alternative terms.

The ability to communicate with wider audiences is a skill that most of us overlooked.

Oh the irony

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english majors?

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I call them pretentious assholes. Being an English Major, I run into a lot of them, so its become a bit of a pet peeve of mine haha.

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#16 judaspete
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I'm surprised how long this post went before someone said "pretentious". Go with that.

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@Master_Live said:

Or GazaAli.

Can't go wrong either way.

lol

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@Gaming-Planet said:

The style of the way I speak or write is only appropriate to the matter of the situation I am in.

eg.,

Business talk/writing

Casual talk/writing

Trying to sound smart all the time among your peers will only make you look like an ass. Don't assume everyone has the same skill levels as you do that correlate with your vocabulary.

correlate?

:)

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@Gaming-Planet said:

The style of the way I speak or write is only appropriate to the matter of the situation I am in.

eg.,

Business talk/writing

Casual talk/writing

Trying to sound smart all the time among your peers will only make you look like an ass. Don't assume everyone has the same skill levels as you do that correlate with your vocabulary.

There's something about those sentences that just don't seem right
Which I find quite the ironic

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#20  Edited By Seiki_sands
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For others who "try too hard", merely using big words means nothing to me one way or the other, it is the attitude and tone they have while using them. They may say something vapid with fancy words, but that doesn't mean they are an empty vessel. People use simple words and think they're imparting wisdom or think themselves witty while they too are bereft of value. We all say stupid things. Being ambitious with your vocabulary is generally admirable, if it is occasioned by curiosity, or a longing to find better means of expression. I think it dumb to suggest that because they are not generally well educated they should not try to learn and use new and complex words, given that learning those definitions and cementing that knowledge through use only improves their education. If they use them incorrectly, and are open-minded I don't judge, but merely correct.

I'm guilty of being verbose, and I'm sure the people who object to me using large words or meandering sentences often think I'm pedantic and pretentious as well. In an attempt to justify myself I'd offer several reasons why I communicate in an awkward manner.

1. I do not have discipline of thought. My thoughts are highly scattered and I have trouble ordering them. This used to result in me using paragraph long sentences with four or more clauses in almost every attempt to express a thought. It still does in the first drafts of many of my sentences; but I've made great strides in this area. That said, I still sometimes arrange them poorly. Hence, I procrastinate in getting to a point, and retrace those points repeatedly to clarify them in my own head.

2. As a byproduct of my lack of social graces I also have an inordinate fear being misunderstood. This likewise results in multiple restatements of the same idea in order to hone in on my definitions and remove alternate interpretations. I do not view this quality entirely as a vice. Words are notoriously imprecise, and the greater number of correctly chosen words you use, the closer you will come to expressing an idea literally. This comes at the expense of voice, tone and sometimes accuracy, and I alter my style of writing far more than most people I know based on context.

3. I've avoided human contact for the preponderance my life, but read a great deal and especially at a young age. The nature of this reading was largely of a classical variety, with philosophical tracts and non-fiction occasionally represented. It set a formal default for my cadence. It's exceedingly difficult to immerse yourself in the poetry of Milton and philosophy of Kant's Critiques at the age of fourteen and enter adulthood with a normal voice. Ironically, given that I'm still saddled with that legacy, I'm not that person anymore. The shadows of his cadence remains, but his vocabulary was greater, his mind more disordered and bubbling, even if he was shallower in his reasoning. I read his papers and can barely follow his train of thought.

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Foxhounds or greyseals

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#22 Treflis
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I was unaware that building ones vocabulary was a bad thing.

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#23  Edited By horgen  Moderator
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I'm all for simplifying stuff, but vital information should not get lost in the process.

Dunno the English name for people who do use overly complex words =/

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#24  Edited By mjorh
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@Master_Live said:

Or GazaAli.

Can't go wrong either way.

lmao

But he's just like that .. i mean he's not trying or sth ...

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My little sister....although she is a Clinical Psychologist and *is* smart...but she still tries too hard sometimes and you can tell when she is forcefully using big words lol.

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My problem is when I use a big word without knowing what it means. I once told someone that reading is an aphrodisiac - thinking that meant something to help you sleep. Was I ever wrong. Luckily all that person did was laugh and correct me politely; other times I have not been so lucky.

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My problem is when I use a big word without knowing what it means. I once told someone that reading is an aphrodisiac - thinking that meant something to help you sleep. Was I ever wrong. Luckily all that person did was laugh and correct me politely; other times I have not been so lucky.

Well, reading *can* be an aphrodisiac...all depends on what you are reading lol.

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@Renevent42 said:
@metalman0616 said:

My problem is when I use a big word without knowing what it means. I once told someone that reading is an aphrodisiac - thinking that meant something to help you sleep. Was I ever wrong. Luckily all that person did was laugh and correct me politely; other times I have not been so lucky.

Well, reading *can* be an aphrodisiac...all depends on what you are reading lol.

Too true XD

I realized my mistake after finding the root of the word comes from Aphrodite. Strangely enough, even though I come from a technical background and hate writing, I still manage to surprise myself with my knowledge of etymology. See what I did there?

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pseduo-intellectuals

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#30  Edited By jun_aka_pekto
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They're usually known as PhD holders. But, most I've seen normally hang out only with others like them. I doubt they'd hang out with a Joe Sixpack like me.

I don't look at people like they're trying too hard. Either I understand them or I don't.

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#32  Edited By GreySeal9
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@servomaster said:

english majors?

Well, I don't know about English majors on the undergrad level, but in my English masters program, we are encouraged and trained to write more clearly and simply and to not overuse jargon, though I guess how many people actually live up to those standards is a different story.

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#33  Edited By GreySeal9
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@themajormayor said:

Foxhounds or greyseals

Haha. This is rich coming from one of the biggest psuedo-intellectuals/wanna-be elitists on this board. One funny example of this is when you pretend to be some kind of classical music connoisseur. It's kind of adorable TBH.

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#34  Edited By GreySeal9
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@jun_aka_pekto said:

They're usually known as PhD holders. But, most I've seen normally hang out only with others like them. I doubt they'd hang out with a Joe Sixpack like me.

I don't look at people like they're trying too hard. Either I understand them or I don't.

The PHDs I know (and I know a lot of them) are pretty chill and down the Earth and usually just talk about regular things. Granted, when I go to the bar with them, we sometimes they have debates about theory and philosophy and stuff but those debates are fun.

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I call them 'sensei' and mind my own business.

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inefficient typers

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Pretentious is the word. There's something to be said for knowing the more obscure parts of language, but whenever I read something with a lot of super complex language (and I'm a well read person) it just makes me want to punch the writer in the face. There's using the language intelligently, then there's being smug to the point that others struggle to decipher what you're saying. It's people like that that give writers and other English types the reputation of acting with a holier than thou attitude.

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@chaoscougar1 said:
@magicalclick said:

@sonicare:

They sounds like geeks to me. I sometimes sounds like a geek too. So, I need to remind myself that not everyone talks geek.

When I mean, geek, I mean geek in general, whether it is tech, or math, or literature, or med, or military code, or etc. People who can't communicate at same level of audience, simply lacks the creativeness to express their technical terms in a simpler easier to understand alternative terms.

The ability to communicate with wider audiences is a skill that most of us overlooked.

Oh the irony

I don't think English is his first language.....I could be wrong.

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I knew a girl who had a thesaurus in her back pocket. She would use the more complex words just to try to sound like the smartest woman alive..

She ended up not doing too well in life.

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@GreySeal9 said:

The PHDs I know (and I know a lot of them) are pretty chill and down the Earth and usually just talk about regular things. Granted, when I go to the bar with them, we sometimes they have debates about theory and philosophy and stuff but those debates are fun.

Those I knew were professors in say, Business/Technical English. Perhaps, they just had their game faces on. ;)

Now that I think about it, we had one PhD take us to Cracker Barrel at the last day of class. She was pretty down to earth.

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@GreySeal9 said:
@themajormayor said:

Foxhounds or greyseals

Haha. This is rich coming from one of the biggest psuedo-intellectuals/wanna-be elitists on this board. One funny example of this is when you pretend to be some kind of classical music connoisseur. It's kind of adorable TBH.

I hit the soft spot here apparently :lol: no reason to cry, just turn down the ostentatiousness and everything will be alright.

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#45  Edited By GreySeal9
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@themajormayor said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@themajormayor said:

Foxhounds or greyseals

Haha. This is rich coming from one of the biggest psuedo-intellectuals/wanna-be elitists on this board. One funny example of this is when you pretend to be some kind of classical music connoisseur. It's kind of adorable TBH.

I hit the soft spot here apparently :lol: no reason to cry, just turn down the ostentatiousness and everything will be alright.

You didn't hit anything. It's just if you're going to call someone out in a thread, especially when you are a poster child for the traits you accuse others of having, you're going to get a response. Not sure how you were expecting me to react TBH.

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@jun_aka_pekto said:
@GreySeal9 said:

The PHDs I know (and I know a lot of them) are pretty chill and down the Earth and usually just talk about regular things. Granted, when I go to the bar with them, we sometimes they have debates about theory and philosophy and stuff but those debates are fun.

Those I knew were professors in say, Business/Technical English. Perhaps, they just had their game faces on. ;)

Now that I think about it, we had one PhD take us to Cracker Barrel at the last day of class. She was pretty down to earth.

Yeah, possibly. In our program, a lot of people put on a performance.

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@Treflis said:

I was unaware that building ones vocabulary was a bad thing.

It's not. However it is bad when you use obscure and complex words in a pathetic attempt to cover up the fact that you're actually an idiot.

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@turtlethetaffer said:

Pretentious is the word. There's something to be said for knowing the more obscure parts of language, but whenever I read something with a lot of super complex language (and I'm a well read person) it just makes me want to punch the writer in the face. There's using the language intelligently, then there's being smug to the point that others struggle to decipher what you're saying. It's people like that that give writers and other English types the reputation of acting with a holier than thou attitude.

I know exactly what you're saying. Sometimes complex arguments call for complex language, but there are certain people in academia that purposely write in an obscure way to shut certain readers out of the dialogue. It's obnoxious.

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@GreySeal9 said:
@themajormayor said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@themajormayor said:

Foxhounds or greyseals

Haha. This is rich coming from one of the biggest psuedo-intellectuals/wanna-be elitists on this board. One funny example of this is when you pretend to be some kind of classical music connoisseur. It's kind of adorable TBH.

I hit the soft spot here apparently :lol: no reason to cry, just turn down the ostentatiousness and everything will be alright.

You didn't hit anything. It's just if you're going to call someone out in a thread, especially when you are a poster child for the traits you accuse others of having, you're going to get a response. Not sure how you were expecting me to react TBH.

Pretty sure I did. Why else are you spouting nonsense?

I was expecting OT's resident armchair intellectual to try something more clever than a mere "it takes one to know one response". Maybe you're just a regular old dumb dumb then.

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@themajormayor said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@themajormayor said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@themajormayor said:

Foxhounds or greyseals

Haha. This is rich coming from one of the biggest psuedo-intellectuals/wanna-be elitists on this board. One funny example of this is when you pretend to be some kind of classical music connoisseur. It's kind of adorable TBH.

I hit the soft spot here apparently :lol: no reason to cry, just turn down the ostentatiousness and everything will be alright.

You didn't hit anything. It's just if you're going to call someone out in a thread, especially when you are a poster child for the traits you accuse others of having, you're going to get a response. Not sure how you were expecting me to react TBH.

Pretty sure I did. Why else are you spouting nonsense?

I was expecting OT's resident armchair intellectual to try something more clever than a mere "it takes one to know one response". Maybe you're just a regular old dumb dumb then.

Ugh. What's with you guys?