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#1 hyrueprince11
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don't know how it works in the US (since I live in mexico) but I feel like it should be applied here in mexico, at least to everyone who kills, maybe even to people who kidnap or rape

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I oppose it in all circumstances.
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#3 Yandere
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It's hypocritical.

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#4 deactivated-6016f2513d412
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I like to take it on a case by case basis for the most part, but I am not opposed to it.
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#5 CajunCeltic
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I do not approve of the death penalty we do not have the right to decide someone's fate.
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#6 AikiSpirit
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Life in prison, without chance of parole is enough. And none of the nice thrilly bits that you get in prison. The only thing you should get in prison is a library, i'm all for education in any walk of life or situation.

Death scentence= hypocrisy

And CajunCeltic, we do decide someones fate with life in prison. "You will die in prison" See? You're told when to eat, sleep, excersie. Everything is decided, you will die in prison, fate decided

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#7 corwinn01
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I am all for it.

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#8 nimatoad2000
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i oppose the death penalty for 2 reasons: 1. it takes soo long to kill the person, some people truely repent and feel sorry for what they did, and the killing is cruel, they only give you enough of the stuff that numbs you out ( the first of the shots) for a 160 pound man, so a bigger guy is going to feel his organs dying, must be painful. 2. along with whats stated above, a life sentence is more of a punishment, and more humane.
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#9 jrhawk42
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it doesn't solve anything, except an uncivilized need for revenge.

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#10 Punjabiking101
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1.Some-one kills somebody- life long sentence in jail while we use tax dollars to pay for that?

2.Some-one kills somebody- Kill them.

I go with 2, treat others the way you want to be treated.

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#11 mike_me
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don't know how it works in the US (since I live in mexico) but I feel like it should be applied here in mexico, at least to everyone who kills, maybe even to people who kidnap or rape

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Agreed. Especially for rape. Although it somehow seems like a worse penalty would be to keep them in a small cell with no luxuries while getting raped in the *** by other guys (a.k.a. Jail). I feel as if they're getting off too easy by just killing them and setting them free of this crappy world.
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i oppose the death penalty for 2 reasons: 1. it takes soo long to kill the person, some people truely repent and feel sorry for what they did, and the killing is cruel, they only give you enough of the stuff that numbs you out ( the first of the shots) for a 160 pound man, so a bigger guy is going to feel his organs dying, must be painful. 2. along with whats stated above, a life sentence is more of a punishment, and more humane.nimatoad2000

the guys living in prison are living thanks to taxes that we pay+some might regret what they did and change but a lot of them just go back to kill more people

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#13 danwallacefan
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I oppose it in all circumstances.chessmaster1989
same

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#14 -Sun_Tzu-
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It's incredibly unjust. Not only shouldn't the state have the authority to execute its own citizens, but our legal system is very prone to mistakes because humans simply aren't perfect - innocent people are put to death because of human error. I don't see how you can justify that.
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#15 l4dak47
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it's neccsary some people just derserve to die they're going to die anyway we're just speeding up the process.......

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#16 jJaAmMeEsS2184
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I do not approve of the death penalty we do not have the right to decide someone's fate.CajunCeltic

so murderers have the right to decide their victims fate?

I am all for the death penalty against people who murder, I think there should be the death penalty for rapists as well..especially repeat offenders...and twisted child molesters should get tortured, then put to death

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#17 hyrueprince11
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it doesn't solve anything, except an uncivilized need for revenge.

jrhawk42

if it was only for revenge I would say death penalty is one of the worse things ever but with death penalty assassins will think twice before they do something like that, even if they do it after thinking twice we would have less assasins in the world that way and taxes could be reduced or used for something else

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#18 Serraph105
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you take a life you owe a life.

personally though I am not big on it.

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#19 samuraiguns
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Eye for an eye is not the way to go.

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#20 hyrueprince11
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It's incredibly unjust. Not only shouldn't the state have the authority to execute its own citizens, but our legal system is very prone to mistakes because humans simply aren't perfect - innocent people are put to death because of human error. I don't see how you can justify that.-Sun_Tzu-

that's actually one of the 2 reasons why I don't fully approve it but at least people who have been been proved to do a lot of damage should get killed

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#21 Serraph105
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Eye for an eye is not the way to go.

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yes two eyes is much better but people can't give two lives
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#22 AikiSpirit
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Eye for an eye is not the way to go.

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Amen to that "An eye for an eye makes the world blind" Gandhi
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#23 nocoolnamejim
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It's incredibly unjust. Not only shouldn't the state have the authority to execute its own citizens, but our legal system is very prone to mistakes because humans simply aren't perfect - innocent people are put to death because of human error. I don't see how you can justify that.-Sun_Tzu-
Think of how many mistakes imperfect Gamespot mods make. Now imagine a jury composed of imperfect people. It's safe to say that I oppose the death penalty. Our legal system is based on the belief that it is worse to punish one innocent person than it is to let 100 guilty people go free. I think that is correct.
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#24 mindstorm
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Most social conservatives would say the death penalty is fine. However, I take a slightly different approach. I am not all that supportive of the death penalty in nations that can afford to lock a prisoner away for life. In nations where there simply is not enough room within the prisons for criminals is when I am more supportive of the death penalty.
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#25 deactivated-58df4522915cb
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I approve of the death penalty. If a murderer is not regretfull andgoes to prison, gets out, and murders another person he deserves the chair. same deal with rapists. cuz im sick and tired of all these convicted murderers and rapists coming out of prison and doing it again.

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#26 Omni-Slash
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It's innefective the way they use it today so they might as well get rid of it.....I think personally if DNA evidence is used to convict you in said crime...screw appeals....end it right there.......make it public too...use it as a deterent....
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#27 AikiSpirit
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I approve of the death penalty. If a murderer is not regretfull andgoes to prison, gets out, and murders another person he deserves the chair. same deal with rapists. cuz im sick and tired of all these convicted murderers and rapists coming out of prison and doing it again.

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Then its not the death penalty needed, its life inprisoment. To put a person on death row costs millions because each candidate has to go to the supreme court and has to appeal his or her case at least once. The actual injection does not cost very much. something like $86.00. It costs on averege $22,000 annually to keep someone in prison....Does that effect anyones opinion? Doesn't change mine because we abolished the death penalty in 1971, but i'm asking the Americans if it bothers them.
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#28 danwallacefan
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[QUOTE="CajunCeltic"]I do not approve of the death penalty we do not have the right to decide someone's fate.jJaAmMeEsS2184

so murderers have the right to decide their victims fate?

I am all for the death penalty against people who murder, I think there should be the death penalty for rapists as well..especially repeat offenders...and twisted child molesters should get tortured, then put to death

strawman award.

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#29 vidplayer8
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I don't like it, not one bit.

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#30 Omni-Slash
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strawman award.danwallacefan
it's not a strawman argument it's a legitamate point.....those that sentence the person to death are not dtermining fate..tehy are handing down punishment.....Fate was determined buy the idiot who committed said crime...
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#31 deactivated-58df4522915cb
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Life imprisonment doesnt always work though. people can still escape from prison and do it again. If theyre too dangerous to be kept alive then they should be eliminated.

Besides, it costs more to feed, clothe,and provide medical attentionforlife imprionmentanyway. we wouldnt be sending them to jail, we would be sending them to a lifelong vacation were they wouldnt benefit society in any way, unless they did some kind of community service which i doubt because they would likely be kept under maximum security.

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#32 Bombastus
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Its stupid. Kill someone to make a statement that killing others is immoral.
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#33 Bombastus
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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

Eye for an eye is not the way to go.

AikiSpirit
Amen to that "An eye for an eye makes the world blind" Gandhi

You beat me to it.
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#34 ProudLarry
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The justice system is imperfect. I'll repeat that: The justice system is imperfect. What happens when someone is executed and then new evidence is found that proves their innocence? You can't rescind their sentence if they're dead. Execution is too permanent, and life imprisonment without parole is enough for the most serious crimes.
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#35 tester962
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Some people deserve to be killed but for the most part im against it. Some people that get sentenced request to die.
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#36 Omni-Slash
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Its stupid. Kill someone to make a statement that killing others is immoral. Bombastus
no...but equating the euthenasia of a murderer to the murdering of an innocent victim is.......
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#37 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Bombastus"][QUOTE="AikiSpirit"][QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

Eye for an eye is not the way to go.

Amen to that "An eye for an eye makes the world blind" Gandhi

You beat me to it.

and yet we do it all the time and then some. If somebody steals something they don't just have to give it back if they are caught they have to give it back and are sent to jail (or whatever the punishment is) and is usually something that far exceeds the original crime.
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#38 GabuEx
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Between 1973 and 2008, 129 people who had been sentenced to death were exonerated and freed. Those are 129 people who would have been innocent individuals murdered by the government had the carrying out of their sentences occurred earlier. And those are just the ones who we know about.

If that fact does not make you oppose the death penalty, I don't know what would.

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#39 Toriko42
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I think it's sick and disgusting
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#40 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Between 1973 and 2008, 129 people who had been sentenced to death were exonerated and freed. Those are 129 people who would have been innocent individuals murdered by the government had the carrying out of their sentences occurred earlier. And those are just the ones who we know about.

If that fact does not make you oppose the death penalty, I don't know what would.

um out of how many total?
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#41 ProudLarry
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Between 1973 and 2008, 129 people who had been sentenced to death were exonerated and freed. Those are 129 people who would have been innocent individuals murdered by the government had the carrying out of their sentences occurred earlier. And those are just the ones who we know about.

If that fact does not make you oppose the death penalty, I don't know what would.

um out of how many total?

Wikipedia says 1,173 people have been executed since 1973.
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Between 1973 and 2008, 129 people who had been sentenced to death were exonerated and freed. Those are 129 people who would have been innocent individuals murdered by the government had the carrying out of their sentences occurred earlier. And those are just the ones who we know about.

If that fact does not make you oppose the death penalty, I don't know what would.

um out of how many total?

I bolded part of Gabu's earlier post. Impossible to really say with any certainty.
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I oppose it for one reason. A mass murderer doesnt deserve to die. He deserves to suffer in jail, and then die. Deaths to good for them.
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#44 GabuEx
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um out of how many total?Serraph105

1,099 people were executed as of the end of 2007. So about 10% of those sentenced to death were later exonerated.

Why does that matter, though? A population that truly cares about justice and human rights should recoil with disgust at any number larger than zero.

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Between 1973 and 2008, 129 people who had been sentenced to death were exonerated and freed. Those are 129 people who would have been innocent individuals murdered by the government had the carrying out of their sentences occurred earlier. And those are just the ones who we know about.

If that fact does not make you oppose the death penalty, I don't know what would.

GabuEx

that's a very good point, as I said before that's one of the 2 reasons why I don't fully approve it but at least people that have been totally proved to be guilty of murder should get killed

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#46 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Between 1973 and 2008, 129 people who had been sentenced to death were exonerated and freed. Those are 129 people who would have been innocent individuals murdered by the government had the carrying out of their sentences occurred earlier. And those are just the ones who we know about.

If that fact does not make you oppose the death penalty, I don't know what would.

um out of how many total?

I bolded part of Gabu's earlier post. Impossible to really say with any certainty.

I actually meant what ProudLARRY said (thx btw) and I must say that in that that is far too many people in that case.
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#47 Omni-Slash
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Between 1973 and 2008, 129 people who had been sentenced to death were exonerated and freed. Those are 129 people who would have been innocent individuals murdered by the government had the carrying out of their sentences occurred earlier. And those are just the ones who we know about.

If that fact does not make you oppose the death penalty, I don't know what would.

how many were on technicalities rather than them actually being innocent?...how many total were put on death row? ......How many people were murdered during that time?
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#48 GabuEx
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at least people that have been totally proved to be guilty of murder should get killed

hyrueprince11

As I have said elsewhere, such a standard would abolish the death penalty. There is no such thing as "totally proved" in criminal justice. No evidence is absolutely incontrovertible, and confessions can be forced.

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I oppose it for one reason. A mass murderer doesnt deserve to die. He deserves to suffer in jail, and then die. Deaths to good for them.bronxxbombers

true but they can get out and sometimes even do crimes inside jail

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#50 JustusCF
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It has improved greatly since DNA, innocent people aren't dying...

I'm all for it, although I hear it costs about the same as life because of the appeals and whatnot, they need to seriously speed up the process.

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Any intentional murderers should get it imo. Rapists, especially child ones should just get life.

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We need to stop being so **** soft on these sick **** 11 year old girls get kidnapped, raped and impregnated for 18 years because of the weakening and dumbing down of our society, how we should feel sympathy for sick **** and give them a second chance... **** that.