What Do You Think About Mike Vick?

The Vick case has always blown my mind, it seems like you have to have some extreme view of him. Either your a animal rights nut or you justify a serious felon. I personally feel that Vick is more a symbol more then anything else. A symbol that the U.S. Justice System is a inconsistent joke as well as a joke that the NFL has little to no disapline and is without a doubt in my mind the most courpt major sports legaue in the world.

What other sports league could you comit 2nd degree manslaughter, serve less then 30 days in county jail and still be allowed to make millions of dollors playing a game?

I personally try to look at the Vick case for what I see it as....

Big time football player, possible furture hall of famer.
Word gets out he's part of a massive dog fighting operation.
Gets arrested, bailed out, admits to all sorts of crimes including the drowning and electrocution of dogs.
Gives a okay apology speech, however I felt had some bad wording.
Facing up to five years in federal pen, ends up only getting the better part of two years and on top of that only serves a weak year and a half with a few years of probation.
Then gets right back into making millions in the NFL. And as far as I'm aware has done little to nothing to show any remorse or change, other then a few speeches to kids and a tiny bit of work with the Humane Society.

But a few things that I never understood about the Vick case is where is the Micheal Vick Animal Crultey Prevention Fund? And why hasen't he ever gone under any kind of a mental study to see what's the problem with him since I remember when he was on 60 minutes he more or less said he did it out of peer pressure and not being able to stand up for himself, and I remember thinking either he's a big wussy or has some mental issues to comit some of these crimes.

if he takes the team to the bowl all will be forgiven.weezyfb

Big time football player, possible furture hall of famer.

ghostphantom563

Anyone who thought he was a future hall of famer is insane. He wasn't even that good.

I think he's served his time and should be allowed to play. He's terrible though, so I don't really understand why the Eagles signed him.

What I don't understand is all these people protesting Michael Vick yet nobody really cares about Donte Stallworth who killed a person.

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Big time football player, possible furture hall of famer.

JML897

Anyone who thought he was a future hall of famer is insane. He wasn't even that good.

I think he's served his time and should be allowed to play. He's terrible though, so I don't really understand why the Eagles signed him.

What I don't understand is all these people protesting Michael Vick yet nobody really cares about Donte Stallworth who killed a person.

What he did was screwed up, but I think almost 2 years in federal prison was about what he needed. I wouldn't go out and give him an endorsement deal if I was Nike or whatever. However if I was an NFL GM, and I felt he could help i'd sign him.

Do you really feel he served a legit sentance? Most people serve a year and half on minor drug charges not taking part in a MASSIVE multi-state, big money dog fight operation.

ghostphantom563

If you want to compare him to other people, let's compare him to Donte Stallworth (who I mentioned before)...DUI manslaughter and he got out in 30 days.

The justice system is screwed up, but I don't think he got out of prison quickly because he was Michael Vick.

What he did was screwed up, but I think almost 2 years in federal prison was about what he needed. I wouldn't go out and give him an endorsement deal if I was Nike or whatever. However if I was an NFL GM, and I felt he could help i'd sign him.

Boston_Boyy

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Do you really feel he served a legit sentance? Most people serve a year and half on minor drug charges not taking part in a MASSIVE multi-state, big money dog fight operation.

JML897

If you want to compare him to other people, let's compare him to Donte Stallworth (who I mentioned before)...DUI manslaughter and he got out in 30 days.

The justice system is screwed up, but I don't think he got out of prison quickly because he was Michael Vick.

I just felt he served a insanely short sentance, and has never really faced much of any justice.

ghostphantom563

He went bankrupt while in prison and is now in debt...and once his contract with the Eagles is up, I doubt anyone will sign him because he hasn't shown that he's a good quarterback this year. He'll be in economic trouble for the rest of his life.

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I just felt he served a insanely short sentance, and has never really faced much of any justice.

JML897

He went bankrupt while in prison and is now in debt...and once his contract with the Eagles is up, I doubt anyone will sign him because he hasn't shown that he's a good quarterback this year. He'll be in economic trouble for the rest of his life.

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I just felt he served a insanely short sentance, and has never really faced much of any justice.

ghostphantom563

He went bankrupt while in prison and is now in debt...and once his contract with the Eagles is up, I doubt anyone will sign him because he hasn't shown that he's a good quarterback this year. He'll be in economic trouble for the rest of his life.

I'm not sure how the contract is exactly, but yeah, I think he might be coming back for a second year. Even if he does though, the amount of money he's getting paid for this year and next year is nowhere near the amount he needs to pay off his debt.

Big time football player, possible furture hall of famer.ghostphantom563

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[QUOTE="JML897"]

He went bankrupt while in prison and is now in debt...and once his contract with the Eagles is up, I doubt anyone will sign him because he hasn't shown that he's a good quarterback this year. He'll be in economic trouble for the rest of his life.

JML897

I'm not sure how the contract is exactly, but yeah, I think he might be coming back for a second year. Even if he does though, the amount of money he's getting paid for this year and next year is nowhere near the amount he needs to pay off his debt.

[QUOTE="ghostphantom563"]

Big time football player, possible furture hall of famer.

JML897

Anyone who thought he was a future hall of famer is insane. He wasn't even that good.

I think he's served his time and should be allowed to play. He's terrible though, so I don't really understand why the Eagles signed him.

What I don't understand is all these people protesting Michael Vick yet nobody really cares about Donte Stallworth who killed a person.

Hall of Famer? He lost that chance when he started dogfighting, Vick is ok recently on the field but won't be drafted by the big teams

Plus noone gives a crap about Donte Stallworth who yeah killed a person

Basically the people think that multiple dogs are more important than a murder

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Big time football player, possible furture hall of famer.

Dark5tar1

Anyone who thought he was a future hall of famer is insane. He wasn't even that good.

I think he's served his time and should be allowed to play. He's terrible though, so I don't really understand why the Eagles signed him.

What I don't understand is all these people protesting Michael Vick yet nobody really cares about Donte Stallworth who killed a person.

Hall of Famer? He lost that chance when he started dogfighting, Vick is ok recently on the field but won't be drafted by the big teams

Plus noone gives a crap about Donte Stallworth who yeah killed a person

Basically the people think that multiple dogs are more important than a murder

He did not go to jail for murder (it was something that could happen to anyone...hitting a person jaywalking, not the drinking part)

I'm perfectly fine with Vick. My main problem is that there are people in the NFL now that have hurt and killed people, yet Vick hosts dogfights and the whole world goes into one big cluster**** trying to get him incarcerated for life. Shows how simple-minded the world is.

Hall of Famer? He lost that chance when he started dogfightingDark5tar1

How can a person lose that which he never had in the first place?

I'm perfectly fine with Vick. My main problem is that there are people in the NFL now that have hurt and killed people, yet Vick hosts dogfights and the whole world goes into one big cluster**** trying to get him incarcerated for life. Shows how simple-minded the world is.

Phoenix534

Personally I think they should have just waterboarded him so he would know what it was like when he shoved a dogs head into a bucket of water.

[QUOTE="weezyfb"]if he takes the team to the bowl all will be forgiven.ghostphantom563

[QUOTE="ghostphantom563"][QUOTE="weezyfb"]if he takes the team to the bowl all will be forgiven.weezyfb

The only way he'd be a HOF is if HE took a team to the superbowl a few times and win a few MVPs and having consecutive stellar seasons---NOT happening. Not seeing that happen anytime soon seeing as he's not getting any younger. As for his career, he'll probably start for an NFL team next year. Can't see the Eagles taking the option on him for that much money. As to where he's gonna play, who knows----Raiders???

Anybody who abuses animals deserves the death penalty, period. Get these people off the planet now. And I'm not just talking for the sake of animals here, I'm talking about people as well. Because believe me, it's not a very big jump from showing violence towards animals to showing violence towards humans.

And what, his multi-mega-bazillion-dollar sports career wasn't paying the bills? Abusing dogs was just what he had to do to put food on the table? He deserves the death penalty just for being a prick of epic proportions, let alone his complete lack of conscience.

Society is truly hideous, and this whole fiasco is just one more shining example of how warped people really are. It's disgusting.

The Vick case has always blown my mind, it seems like you have to have some extreme view of him. Either your a animal rights nut or you justify a serious felon. I personally feel that Vick is more a symbol more then anything else. A symbol that the U.S. Justice System is a inconsistent joke as well as a joke that the NFL has little to no disapline and is without a doubt in my mind the most courpt major sports legaue in the world.

What other sports league could you comit 2nd degree manslaughter, serve less then 30 days in county jail and still be allowed to make millions of dollors playing a game?

I personally try to look at the Vick case for what I see it as....

Big time football player, possible furture hall of famer.
Word gets out he's part of a massive dog fighting operation.
Gets arrested, bailed out, admits to all sorts of crimes including the drowning and electrocution of dogs.
Gives a okay apology speech, however I felt had some bad wording.
Facing up to five years in federal pen, ends up only getting the better part of two years and on top of that only serves a weak year and a half with a few years of probation.
Then gets right back into making millions in the NFL. And as far as I'm aware has done little to nothing to show any remorse or change, other then a few speeches to kids and a tiny bit of work with the Humane Society.

But a few things that I never understood about the Vick case is where is the Micheal Vick Animal Crultey Prevention Fund? And why hasen't he ever gone under any kind of a mental study to see what's the problem with him since I remember when he was on 60 minutes he more or less said he did it out of peer pressure and not being able to stand up for himself, and I remember thinking either he's a big wussy or has some mental issues to comit some of these crimes.

ghostphantom563

and that's where I stopped reading.

Wow...All you Mike Vick haters need to stop and bow down. Mike Vick is the man and hes playing for the Eagles right now and doing nasty. Good for him that hes back in the NFL doing his thing. Jagermeisterr

[QUOTE="Jagermeisterr"]Wow...All you Mike Vick haters need to stop and bow down. Mike Vick is the man and hes playing for the Eagles right now and doing nasty. Good for him that hes back in the NFL doing his thing. rawsavon

Anybody who abuses animals deserves the death penalty, period.

JN_Fenrir

That applies to farm animals also? Considering how all animals have to be slaughtered to reach the dinner table.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Jagermeisterr"]Wow...All you Mike Vick haters need to stop and bow down. Mike Vick is the man and hes playing for the Eagles right now and doing nasty. Good for him that hes back in the NFL doing his thing. Jagermeisterr

I think he is a disgusting human being who ought to spend the next decade in prison for what he did to those animals. Beyond fighting them, he also electrocuted some of them, drown several, and himself mutilated a few. This isn't your average joe, but a very sick man. I think the NFL should take a moral stance against people like him and other wannabe thug **** who think that it's okay to break the law. In my world he would be in prison still and the NFL would never in a million years consider allowing him back into the league.

1. Mike Vick spent 2 years in jail for a gambling ring. He served his time, you know he went to prison for 2 years, and he has paid for the crime he committed. 2. killing dogs is pretty sick, but I don't see how you can justify banning a guy for life for it, since it had no correlation with the NFL. 3. It's dogs, not humans, if you're going to catch feelings over killing animals, why not become a vegetarian, because the animals you get in your happy meal or bucket of chicken aren't exactly killed in humane ways... 4. Mike Vick has proved the last few weeks he is a viable football player, so to deny him that opportunity is ridiculous.TheBigTicket21

I love you:P.

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Anybody who abuses animals deserves the death penalty, period.

St_JimmyX

That applies to farm animals also? Considering how all animals have to be slaughtered to reach the dinner table.

[QUOTE="JN_Fenrir"]

Anybody who abuses animals deserves the death penalty, period.

St_JimmyX

That applies to farm animals also? Considering how all animals have to be slaughtered to reach the dinner table.

Factory farms, yes, absolutely. What goes on in those places is so terrible, it's unreal. Everybody should read up and watch the videos of these places. Your health is on the line here too!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a total bleeding heart. I do realize that eating animals is part of the natural order, and I eat plenty of meat myself. But there is a pretty clear difference between (humane) slaughtering for food, and outright abuse or torture.

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He did his time. What do you want? I believe in second chances - he committed a crime and was punished. Now, he has a chance to move on with his life. That incident destroyed his career and cost him millions. I think he paid quite a price for it. Animal cruelty is a bad thing, but he did not kill any person or harm any human being.

They're just dogs. Who cares?wstfld

They're just dogs. Who cares?wstfld

There's a lolcat for this. I'd go find it, but I've wasted enough time replying to this post already. :roll:

He served his time. (which I think was way too long as it was) Let him play.

As QB, I'm not a huge fan. He's alright...

They're just dogs. Who cares?wstfld

Yea I don't get people's obsession either. They're better off in my stomach (which they often are;)).

never disliked him...