What do you think about the US not using the metric system?

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#1 lightleggy
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I think its really...dissapointing, that the main world power still uses the imperial system...it sucks, unnefective for meassuring small things, its confusive, and thanks to that there been tons of accidents, like all the nasa scientist who screw up because one uses imperial while the others use metrical.

metric system is overall easier and way logical than imperial...

its obvious to say that 100 centimeters equals to 1 meter...but how many inchs are there in a ft? can anyone deduce it with logic so easily?

imperial is just stupid.

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#2 Shmiity
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Being from America, the metric system is really confusing to me. I never really got the hang of it. Although its taught in all the science subjects here, so dont be too harsh.

1 foot being 12 inches makes perfect sense to me. You just dont live here.

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#3 mattbbpl
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I don't care one way or another. Conversions are simple enough to perform. A switch to using the metric system would be too costly to be worthwhile.
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#4 lightleggy
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Being from America, the metric system is really confusing to me. I never really got the hang of it. Although its taught in all the science subjects here, so dont be too harsh.

1 foot being 12 inches makes perfect sense to me. You just dont live here.

Shmiity
I know, thats my point, if you live there and you have used the system all your life, you can know those things. but with the metric system you can know it if you pay attention even if you have never used it before. 1000 milimeters equals 1 meter, its on the name, mili is 1000, same for centi, centi is 100 its a system that can be deduced with logic. and its much easier since there are logical equivalences.
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#5 Blue-Sky
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Being from America, the metric system is really confusing to me. I never really got the hang of it. Although its taught in all the science subjects here, so dont be too harsh.

1 foot being 12 inches makes perfect sense to me. You just dont live here.

Shmiity

You're comfortable with it because you were raised using it. But from external observation US system makes less sense and work harder.

Everything in the metric system is somewhat divisible by 10. Making math equations less confusing and just about every US business/corporation uses it so it's a greater pain for them to make the conversion for people.

But as of now, it is simply too expensive for the US to convert to the metric system but one day, when our economy is better I hope we can make the switch.

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#6 pero2008
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It seems easier and more logical but I'm used the the imperail system since I've lived in the United States all my life

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#7 Dark__Link
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You don't know the half of it... if all you have to complain about is length units, you shouldn't be allowed to complain. Go be an engineer, then you can b**** about how moronic the Imperial system can be. When you start using foot pounds, pounds feet, pound mass, and pound force all in the same f***ing equation, you can really appreciate Metric. Anyway, nationwide conversion will never happen. You can get the government to do it, but thousands of companies have billions of records, standards, and other s*** that are in Imperial and you'll never get them to spend the trillions of dollars to convert.
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#8 scorch-62
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I think we should use the metric system. The imperial system has absolutely no rhyme or reason.
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#9 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"]You don't know the half of it... if all you have to complain about is length units, you shouldn't be allowed to complain. Go be an engineer, then you can b**** about how moronic the Imperial system can be. When you start using foot pounds, pounds feet, pound mass, and pound force all in the same f***ing equation, you can really appreciate Metric. Anyway, nationwide conversion will never happen. You can get the government to do it, but thousands of companies have billions of records, standards, and other s*** that are in Imperial and you'll never get them to spend the trillions of dollars to convert.

I know, a friend of mine got his engineering degree in the US, he says his head almost exploded when he was forced to use imperial to solve some equations
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#10 Darthkaiser
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Whenever I do a test or a problem I kinda feel annoyed when I see feet, miles, acres. I feel more confortable with with kilometers, centimeters etc.
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#11 zeldaluff
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I think it can be fairly confusing but so far it hasn't really affected my life.

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#12 Ace6301
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The imperial system is outdated and foolishly constructed. It would take time to get it into the minds of every American but the sooner they start trying to introduce it the better. It's easier to learn, use and teach.
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#13 deactivated-6016f2513d412
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I think that it's silly, but I also think that it's unfair and obnoxious for other people to make fun of us for using it. It's not like we have much of a choice - that is just how things are here. It's how we're taught (except for in science classes and so forth). It's not like we the citizens have anything to do with it, so it's a bit irritating to be insulted for just using what you've been taught. I know the metric system quite well despite having grown up in the USA, so I don't like having my intelligence insulted because I use Fahrenheit when I'm speaking in casual conversations.
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#14 lightleggy
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I think that it's silly, but I also think that it's unfair and obnoxious for other people to make fun of us for using it. It's not like we have much of a choice - that is just how things are here. It's how we're taught (except for in science classes and so forth). It's not like we the citizens have anything to do with it, so it's a bit irritating to be insulted for just using what you've been taught. I know the metric system quite well despite having grown up in the USA, so I don't like having my intelligence insulted because I use Fahrenheit when I'm speaking in casual conversations.t3hrubikscube
no one is insulting you, Im just saying that I would expect a country as big as the US to use the metric system. only 2 countries in the world keep using the imperial.
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[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]I think that it's silly, but I also think that it's unfair and obnoxious for other people to make fun of us for using it. It's not like we have much of a choice - that is just how things are here. It's how we're taught (except for in science classes and so forth). It's not like we the citizens have anything to do with it, so it's a bit irritating to be insulted for just using what you've been taught. I know the metric system quite well despite having grown up in the USA, so I don't like having my intelligence insulted because I use Fahrenheit when I'm speaking in casual conversations.lightleggy
no one is insulting you, Im just saying that I would expect a country as big as the US to use the metric system. only 2 countries in the world keep using the imperial.

I'm not talking about this thread in particular. I'm speaking of all of my experiences. Yes, I have been insulted before.
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#16 ChampionoChumps
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I use both. Imperial primarily for estimating the lengths of decent sized objects and metric for anything scientific or mathematic, or for estimating really small objects.

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#17 Allicrombie
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This thread made my temperature rise to 39 degrees Celsius! =P
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#18 arad96
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I grew up with the imperial system, so I got used to it. I can't really estimate any distances with the metric system, but I'm pretty sure that's just because of lack of use. Maybe one day the US will switch to the metric system.

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#19 Tylendal
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The point of 100 degrees Fahrenheit was determined by measuring the average body temperature of a horse. :| Imperial fails for no more reason than this.
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#20 SolidSnake35
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America just can't let go of its glorious past... when it used to be ruled by the Empire. Understandable.
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#21 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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I don't even know what to say to this thread without getting modded.

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#22 dercoo
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The point of 100 degrees Fahrenheit was determined by measuring the average body temperature of a horse. :| Imperial fails for no more reason than this.Tylendal

C was built around the boiling and freezing point of 1 compound, at a general altitude

I still consider F a better lower temp measuring system(like for biological measurements), do to its smaller scale. C is better for large measurements.

Besides Temp though, metric is universally a better system, but it is really too late to shift

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#23 Tylendal
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I don't even know what to say to this thread without getting modded.

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Shouldn't be too hard. Just tell us which you think is better, and why. I'm guessing you're going to support Imperial?
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[QUOTE="Tylendal"]The point of 100 degrees Fahrenheit was determined by measuring the average body temperature of a horse. :| Imperial fails for no more reason than this.dercoo

C was built around the boiling and freezing point of 1 compound, at a general altitude

Besides Temp though, metric is universally a better system, but it is really too late to shift

Still more useful for everyday use than the temperature of a static solution, and the body temperature of a horse. Besides, water factors into the metric system in other ways as well. For example, one milliliter/cubic centimeter of water weighs one gram, and takes one calorie to raise it by one degree Celsius/Kelvin. Kelvin is the best though, if not for everyday use. Same scale as Celsius, but 0 degrees is quite literally 0 degrees, the point at which matter stops moving.

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#25 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Shouldn't be too hard. Just tell us which you think is better, and why. I'm guessing you're going to support Imperial?Tylendal

Nope, after re-reading(barely) the OP I think it would be wiser for me to not say anything.

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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]The point of 100 degrees Fahrenheit was determined by measuring the average body temperature of a horse. :| Imperial fails for no more reason than this.Tylendal

C was built around the boiling and freezing point of 1 compound, at a general altitude

Besides Temp though, metric is universally a better system, but it is really too late to shift

Still more useful than the temperature of a static solution, and the body temperature of a horse. Kelvin is the best though. Same scale as Celsius, but 0 degrees is quite literally 0 degrees, the point at which matter stops moving.

Would be pretty awesome to have the weather guy say it's a chilly 278 Kelvin outside today.
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[QUOTE="Tylendal"]Shouldn't be too hard. Just tell us which you think is better, and why. I'm guessing you're going to support Imperial?airshocker

Nope, after re-reading(barely) the OP I think it would be wiser for me to not say anything.

I'm curious. Please tell me one way that imperial is better than metric. How is the U.S. still using imperial accomplish anything except for making things difficult for everyone else?
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#28 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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I'm curious. Please tell me one way that imperial is better than metric. How is the U.S. still using imperial accomplish anything except for making things difficult for everyone else?Tylendal

It doesn't matter if it's better or not for something so insignificant.

You don't change the way a country has been doing things just because it makes it more difficult for others. Especially not when it's been this way for almost 300 years.

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[QUOTE="Tylendal"]I'm curious. Please tell me one way that imperial is better than metric. How is the U.S. still using imperial accomplish anything except for making things difficult for everyone else?airshocker

It doesn't matter if it's better or not for something so insignificant.

You don't change the way a country has been doing things just because it makes it more difficult for others. Especially not when it's been this way for almost 300 years.

Lots of other countries made the change. Russia even changed their entire calender and time-keeping not too long ago (century or so). "It's the way we've always done it" is not the best reason to do anything. Change is good.
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#30 Cataclism
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[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

Being from America, the metric system is really confusing to me. I never really got the hang of it. Although its taught in all the science subjects here, so dont be too harsh.

1 foot being 12 inches makes perfect sense to me. You just dont live here.

Blue-Sky

You're comfortable with it because you were raised using it. But from external observation US system makes less sense and work harder.

Everything in the metric system is somewhat divisible by 10. Making math equations less confusing and just about every US business/corporation uses it so it's a greater pain for them to make the conversion for people.

But as of now, it is simply too expensive for the US to convert to the metric system but one day, when our economy is better I hope we can make the switch.

"Too costly"? I've seen this excuse used around a lot to explain america's use of the imperial system but I can't understand it. If every business/corporation already uses metric and only the people use imperial, what's so bloody costly about it? And why is it costly? What exactly need you to spend money on?

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#31 Half-Way
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i dont really care, but this pretty much sums up how i feel about it.

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#32 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Lots of other countries made the change. Russia even changed their entire calender and time-keeping not too long ago (century or so). "It's the way we've always done it" is not the best reason to do anything. Change is good.Tylendal

Some change is good. This is so insignificant it doesn't need to be changed.

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#33 markop2003
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can anyone deduce it with logic so easily?

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The imperial system is based on division. eg Imperial pounds Stirling: 1gbp = 20s, 1s = 12p therefore 1gbp/3 = 80p. Whilst with the decimal system: 1gbp = 100p therefore 1gbp/3 = 33.33p
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#34 nocoolnamejim
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I can't say I've thought about it in the last...oh...ever. (At least since high school.) Not that I AM thinking about it, I'd say that it was a much bigger issue before the Internet and Google allowed for quick and easy access to conversion tables.
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#35 HoolaHoopMan
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I don't even know what to say to this thread without getting modded.

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I don't see how you could, basically what he said is true. Imperial sucks plain and simple, and it's basically because a lot of Americans are stubborn. It would help out in the long run.
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]Shouldn't be too hard. Just tell us which you think is better, and why. I'm guessing you're going to support Imperial?Tylendal

Nope, after re-reading(barely) the OP I think it would be wiser for me to not say anything.

I'm curious. Please tell me one way that imperial is better than metric. How is the U.S. still using imperial accomplish anything except for making things difficult for everyone else?

It doesn't have a real impact on anything important. The people who have to deal with the actual limitations and difficulties of the Imperial system (not you, or almost anyone in OT) are paid to do so, so it's not making anyone too upset. While conversions when dealing with numbers between countries (say for companies) is annoying, there are established systems for it, and it doesn't impede anything. In and of itself, the Imperial system is absolutely fine. Americans all grow up with it, so it's second nature. It's only when it's compared to Metric that anyone makes a fuss. But as long as the majority of Americans are in America, I think the world will be just fine, thank you.
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#37 SF_KiLLaMaN
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It's beyond me. The metric system is 10 times easier and makes more sense, yet we still use our crappy system.
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I would like the US to just start teaching both systems and eventually phase out the "standard" system that we use, but I'm not sure if it would be worth all that effort and money. I think the US tried this once, but it failed miserably lol. It was quite annoying having to learn both systems and doing conversions in my engineering classes lol.

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#39 Tylendal
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[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

Nope, after re-reading(barely) the OP I think it would be wiser for me to not say anything.

Dark__Link

I'm curious. Please tell me one way that imperial is better than metric. How is the U.S. still using imperial accomplish anything except for making things difficult for everyone else?

It doesn't have a real impact on anything important. The people who have to deal with the actual limitations and difficulties of the Imperial system (not you, or almost anyone in OT) are paid to do so, so it's not making anyone too upset. While conversions when dealing with numbers between countries (say for companies) is annoying, there are established systems for it, and it doesn't impede anything. In and of itself, the Imperial system is absolutely fine. Americans all grow up with it, so it's second nature. It's only when it's compared to Metric that anyone makes a fuss. But as long as the majority of Americans are in America, I think the world will be just fine, thank you.

A Nasa probe was completely wasted because of conversion errors.

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#40 Mafiree
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Metric system is superior. I wish we used it here.
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#41 -Sun_Tzu-
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The metric system is so boringly sensible. The imperial system makes things much more interesting.

And imperial sounds so much more badass than metric.

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#42 Dark__Link
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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="Tylendal"] I'm curious. Please tell me one way that imperial is better than metric. How is the U.S. still using imperial accomplish anything except for making things difficult for everyone else?Tylendal

It doesn't have a real impact on anything important. The people who have to deal with the actual limitations and difficulties of the Imperial system (not you, or almost anyone in OT) are paid to do so, so it's not making anyone too upset. While conversions when dealing with numbers between countries (say for companies) is annoying, there are established systems for it, and it doesn't impede anything. In and of itself, the Imperial system is absolutely fine. Americans all grow up with it, so it's second nature. It's only when it's compared to Metric that anyone makes a fuss. But as long as the majority of Americans are in America, I think the world will be just fine, thank you.

A Nasa probe was completely wasted because of conversion errors.

I'm sorry, did the world also explode when that happened? You want waste, just watch us try to convert. Things will be exploding left and right.
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#43 AugustusGraham
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Being from America, the metric system is really confusing to me. I never really got the hang of it. Although its taught in all the science subjects here, so dont be too harsh.

1 foot being 12 inches makes perfect sense to me. You just dont live here.

Shmiity

That is all there is to it.

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#44 LZ71
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The metric system is obviously superior, though I can't say I really care too much about it unless I'm in school. All though, the one thing the imperial system does have over the metric is:

imperial sounds so much more badass than metric.

-Sun_Tzu-

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#45 topsemag55
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The United States, although a melting pot, has always had a fierce national identity since its inception. We pride ourselves in our diversity, yet we are one when the time calls for it - such as Pearl Harbor in WWII, and 9-11. We strive to have our own place in the world, thus we have our own system of weights and measures. We don't follow, we make our own choices.:)
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#46 OrkHammer007
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I would like the US to just start teaching both systems and eventually phase out the "standard" system that we use, but I'm not sure if it would be worth all that effort and money. I think the US tried this once, but it failed miserably lol. It was quite annoying having to learn both systems and doing conversions in my engineering classes lol.

CJL182

I remember that fiasco. It was the late '70s, and the entire reason to convert was boiled down to, "We should use metric because [this Imperial unit] is just like [this metric unit]." If a meter is just like a yard, whybother? Extend that to liters and quarts, and pounds and kilograms, and most people just said "Leave it all alone, go bug someone else with it."

Besides, according to my machinist father, Imperial is more accurate than metric when dealing with smaller measures and tolerances. I won't argue with him on that, especially given his 40+ years in that field.

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#47 22Toothpicks
Member since 2005 • 12546 Posts

I hate not using the metric system. Damned imperial system and it's damned fractions! :x

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#48 CHOASXIII
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I am an American and I do not use the metric system because I have no interest in learning a whole different system just because the rest of the world says it's the best.

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#49 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]The United States, although a melting pot, has always had a fierce national identity since its inception. We pride ourselves in our diversity, yet we are one when the time calls for it - such as Pearl Harbor in WWII, and 9-11. We strive to have our own place in the world, thus we have our own system of weights and measures. We don't follow, we make our own choices.:)

Fancy way of saying you missed the call when every one else dropped the old nonsense system for one that made sense and now you're stuck with it for another generation or two.
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#50 topsemag55
Member since 2007 • 19063 Posts
[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="topsemag55"]The United States, although a melting pot, has always had a fierce national identity since its inception. We pride ourselves in our diversity, yet we are one when the time calls for it - such as Pearl Harbor in WWII, and 9-11. We strive to have our own place in the world, thus we have our own system of weights and measures. We don't follow, we make our own choices.:)

Fancy way of saying you missed the call when every one else dropped the old nonsense system for one that made sense and now you're stuck with it for another generation or two.

It isn't broken just because other countries don't use it.