What do you think about veganism and vegetarianism?

Hey everyone,

I was just curious what everyone thinks about people who are vegan/vegetarian. I have currently been a vegetarian for about a year and my gf a Vegan for about the same time. I was wondering what people think about it?

I am just curious because both of our families have no idea about it, and think it's absolutely stupid.

Also, I would like to inform people about it so everyone can stop being quick to judge and to understand what it's like.

Thanks for your time,

Cheers!

For health purposes? Well I cant really give an informed opinion as I havent studied the issue enough.

For moral purposes? An utter joke.

i totally understand not wanting to eat meat, im disgusted by meat most of the time. I still eat it thou. not eating dairy (veganism) is taking it a bit far in my mind, but to each their own

I can tolerate vegetarians much more than I can vegans. Vegans come off as idiots to me. Vegetarians actually see the health benefits in using such a diet, but aren't scared of dairy or fish.

As long as you're not trying to stop me from eating meat, then I'm all for it. It's your life decision and it's not affecting me, so it's all good lol.

Hey everyone, I totally understand what most of you's say... Some vegans are way to intense, and I would never push people upon the whole not eating meat. But the main thing is, not everyone is intense as people from PETA. I have noticed the great benefits of eating vegetarian and I have been a meat eater my whole life until realizing what they do to the animals. So thats why I changed.

For health purposes? Well I cant really give an informed opinion as I havent studied the issue enough.

For moral purposes? An utter joke.

Gambler_3

Hey everyone, I totally understand what most of you's say... Some vegans are way to intense, and I would never push people upon the whole not eating meat. But the main thing is, not everyone is intense as people from PETA. I have noticed the great benefits of eating vegetarian and I have been a meat eater my whole life until realizing what they do to the animals. So thats why I changed.

First_Descent

This is why most people think vegetarians and vegans are nuts. For health purposes people understand, at least for Vegetarians.

i dont have an oppinion on it :P

I don't think vegetarians that eat fish should be considered vegetarians any more than a vegetarian that also eats pork or chicken. Fish is meat. Other than that, I don't think about it very much at all.

I don't think vegetarians that eat fish should be considered vegetarians.

LovePotionNo9

i'm half way through it,already given up red meat but i'm afraid to drop meat completely for i know in order to gain necessary nutritious stuff i have to deal with a serious diet and i'm lazier than than.i support them both for moral reasons.

Grow some balls and eat a 20oz steak.

I don't think vegetarians that eat fish should be considered vegetarians any more than a vegetarian that also eats pork or chicken. Fish is meat. Other than that, I don't think about it very much at all.

LovePotionNo9

I agree with you on that. As for me, I don't eat fish or pork or poultry, I find with vegans and vegetarianism that there is too much labels about each one. it drives me nuts! The only reason I prefer not to eat meat is due to factory farming. It's unbelievable the things they do to cows and other live stock. It's actually grotesque to see.

i'm half way through it,already given up red meat but i'm afraid to drop meat completely for i know in order to gain necessary nutritious stuff i have to deal with a serious diet and i'm lazier than than.i support them both for moral reasons.

VaguelyTagged

See I was the same, but honestly, it's not that hard. Of course My gf and I cook every day, but I enjoy cooking so much that I don't consider it a chore. Also, for nutrition, there are so many alternatives that takes amazing, even better than being a carnivore. Trust me, All I eat now is vegan meals, with the exception of cheese... I love cheese way to much to give it up. But I do not drink milk for the same reason has meat, they induce cows with to many chemical that are harmful for them and to us. So, I drink almond milk... and it is damn good!

So, for nutrition, just look into some books to see what you need. It's really not that hard and there are many sites to help you out and put you on the path that best suites you and your lifestyle.

I have respect for vegetarians... I dunno how I could live though if I turned into one. >_>;Aquat1cF1sh

lol.. I use to love hamburgers, but man, there are some vegeburgers that tastes exactly the same.. i suggest you go to Harvey's and try one, you wont be able to tell the difference! lol

All I eat now is vegan meals, with the exception of cheese... I love cheese way to much to give it up. But I do not drink milk for the same reason has meat, they induce cows with to many chemical that are harmful for them and to us.First_Descent

So you won't drink milk because of how the cows are treated, but you still eat cheese, which is made from that same milk? Yeah, that's consistent.

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i'm half way through it,already given up red meat but i'm afraid to drop meat completely for i know in order to gain necessary nutritious stuff i have to deal with a serious diet and i'm lazier than than.i support them both for moral reasons.

First_Descent

See I was the same, but honestly, it's not that hard. Of course My gf and I cook every day, but I enjoy cooking so much that I don't consider it a chore. Also, for nutrition, there are so many alternatives that takes amazing, even better than being a carnivore. Trust me, All I eat now is vegan meals, with the exception of cheese... I love cheese way to much to give it up. But I do not drink milk for the same reason has meat, they induce cows with to many chemical that are harmful for them and to us. So, I drink almond milk... and it is damn good!

So, for nutrition, just look into some books to see what you need. It's really not that hard and there are many sites to help you out and put you on the path that best suites you and your lifestyle.

I think it's really lame when they do it for moral purposes.

I think it's really lame when they do it for moral purposes.

fooZar777

I agree but on what basis is it moral? A cow is walking food, just like humans when you think about it. Hmmm . . .

I don't care what people eat as long as they don't try to be all high and mighty about it and put down people who like to eat meattestfactor888

I know what you mean.
If people want to celebrate something, they are free to do so. Just don't act high and mighty about it if you don't don't take an interest in it.

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i'm half way through it,already given up red meat but i'm afraid to drop meat completely for i know in order to gain necessary nutritious stuff i have to deal with a serious diet and i'm lazier than than.i support them both for moral reasons.

VaguelyTagged

See I was the same, but honestly, it's not that hard. Of course My gf and I cook every day, but I enjoy cooking so much that I don't consider it a chore. Also, for nutrition, there are so many alternatives that takes amazing, even better than being a carnivore. Trust me, All I eat now is vegan meals, with the exception of cheese... I love cheese way to much to give it up. But I do not drink milk for the same reason has meat, they induce cows with to many chemical that are harmful for them and to us. So, I drink almond milk... and it is damn good!

So, for nutrition, just look into some books to see what you need. It's really not that hard and there are many sites to help you out and put you on the path that best suites you and your lifestyle.

yah, I hear what you mean, my family would never do something like that. They would just make their own food. But you can always do a one night vege thing with the fam. if you know what I mean. I love cooking, it's really not that hard to do, try it out and you may surprise yourself. lol

I've never understood becoming a vegetarian/vegan based on moral grounds. You oppose their living conditions, OK. Do you wear Nikes? Levis?Are you against slave labor? Just curious.

Sure, it's fine. There are way more obnoxious meat-eaters than there are obnoxious vegetarians anyways.

i think is dumb, for health purposes? body needs meat and meat replacements are not enough. morals? enjoying the suffering of animals is one thing, i hope the people who tortures animals die crushed under a car, but otherwise is ok, is the food chain, animals eat other animals to survive, what im trying to say is i agree with your family is incredibly stupid to be a vegetarian

Seems kind of pointless to me, unless you adhere to it for religious or spiritual reasons. I mean, it's not necessarily better for your health to cut meat out of your diet, especially if you eat lean meat. And you personally refusing to eat meat isn't going to stop cruelty to animals either. And since animals like cows and chickens are dumber than mud anyway, there's really no point to worrying about how they feel before they're slaughtered.

I think they're both stupid, meat is much easier to digest, and it's good for you. No matter how or what you eat, you can end up fat and sick... well, I'm not sure I've ever seen a fat vegan, probably just 'cause they're unhealthy and can't gain the weight :D

If humans were meant to eat only plants, we'd probably have a working appendix, a pot belly.. and very smelly (herbivores are SMELLY! due to bacteria being used to break down the hard to digest plant bits)

i think is dumb, for health purposes? body needs meat and meat replacements are not enough. morals? enjoying the suffering of animals is one thing, i hope the people who tortures animals die crushed under a car, but otherwise is ok, is the food chain, animals eat other animals to survive, what im trying to say is i agree with your family is incredibly stupid to be a vegetarian

Krelian-co

This is extremely untrue, and why most people don't turn to become vegetarian. People who are vegetarian are the healthiest people in the world. Look at Japan, they don't eat meat, diary and have the highest expectancy rate out of all the countries. So you are mistaken. As for the food chain, I understand where this is coming from, but other animals don't entrap, torture, induce chemicals and make them suffer on a daily basis. Go hunting, that's better, but torture like factory farming. so, once again. There is a difference.

I think they're both stupid, meat is much easier to digest, and it's good for you. No matter how or what you eat, you can end up fat and sick... well, I'm not sure I've ever seen a fat vegan, probably just 'cause they're unhealthy and can't gain the weight :D

If humans were meant to eat only plants, we'd have a working appendix, we'd probably have a pot belly too... and very smelly (herbivores are SMELLY! due to bacteria being used to break down the hard to digest plant bits)

Inconsistancy

actually the appendix was used to digest bones supposedly, not for digesting plants.

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I think they're both stupid, meat is much easier to digest, and it's good for you. No matter how or what you eat, you can end up fat and sick... well, I'm not sure I've ever seen a fat vegan, probably just 'cause they're unhealthy and can't gain the weight :D

If humans were meant to eat only plants, we'd have a working appendix, we'd probably have a pot belly too... and very smelly (herbivores are SMELLY! due to bacteria being used to break down the hard to digest plant bits)

First_Descent

actually the appendix was used to digest bones supposedly, not for digesting plants.

This is extremely untrue, and why most people don't turn to become vegetarian. People who are vegetarian are the healthiest people in the world. Look at Japan, they don't eat meat, diary and have the highest expectancy rate out of all the countries. So you are mistaken. As for the food chain, I understand where this is coming from, but other animals don't entrap, torture, induce chemicals and make them suffer on a daily basis. Go hunting, that's better, but torture like factory farming. so, once again. There is a difference.

First_Descent

The Japanese eat plenty of meat, especially fish. They also smoke like hell, which we know for a fact is unhealthy, so using them as a paragon of good habits is silly.

I think people should learn to think for themselves.

First page is covered with "Stop trying to turn me vegan." Given that vegan's aren't exactly a majority, I question how many of those people ever even spoke to a vegan. What it sounds like is that someone decided that vegans are "wierd" or "uncool" and as such everyone has developed this "cootie" attitude about them. Not all vegans are zealots (nor am I a vegan, but the core seems simple enough to understand).

Veganism is mostly just the realization that humans are arrogant fools who achieved "superiority" by circumstance alone.

We've all seen those "Man gets stranded and survives" films... but they're hardly factual. While most of you all might attempt to "imitate" what you've seen... there is a fair likelihood that you lack the critical knowledge to actually achieve it. Though they say "necessity is the mother of invention" it is not the mother of intellect. Though you might know of the bow; that does not mean that you can discover how to properly build one.

The "proverbial discovery of fire" is the act that contributes to our established "superiority".

What Veganism is about is a simple question "What if man had not mastered the flame?" and the assumption that some other form would have achieved superiority over ourselves. Furthering the idea that "what if we made good fodder for cows".

Unfortunately, people are so caught up in their egotistical nature that such a thought is inconcievable and hence they view this simple explaination as utter fanaticism and stupidity. Aww, tried and failed.

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This is extremely untrue, and why most people don't turn to become vegetarian. People who are vegetarian are the healthiest people in the world. Look at Japan, they don't eat meat, diary and have the highest expectancy rate out of all the countries. So you are mistaken. As for the food chain, I understand where this is coming from, but other animals don't entrap, torture, induce chemicals and make them suffer on a daily basis. Go hunting, that's better, but torture like factory farming. so, once again. There is a difference.

metroidfood

The Japanese eat plenty of meat, especially fish. They also smoke like hell, which we know for a fact is unhealthy, so using them as a paragon of good habits is silly.

thats true I had jumped the gun on the fish department since this live by the ocean, but the fact is that they eat more fish, with extremely low to non red meat consumption.