What do you think of the use of Private Military Companies like Blackwater.

I have not seen them in the news in a while, but Blackwater always to be getting in trouble.

why have the military do something when you can pay someone else 2x the money to do it for you...

why have the military do something when you can pay someone else 2x the money to do it for you...

comp_atkins

I understand what your saying, but mercenaries seem to be under a lot less scrutiny and cause a good bit of trouble.

If there is one thing that should always be under government control, it's the military. You can't trust a corporation with something as powerful and potentially dangerous as an advanced military force. They seek profit, not security and they have very few rules. redstorm72

Are there any soldiers here that have had to work with, or atually work for a PMC.

Well for one thing Blackwater has changed their name now since they have got so much heat put on them already. Having a private military is not bad considering that Blackwater is a United States based PMC and you have to have specialized training just to join them or be a former soldier. I could understand getting nervous about using a foreign PMC though.....

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

why have the military do something when you can pay someone else 2x the money to do it for you...

I understand what your saying, but mercenaries seem to be under a lot less scrutiny and cause a good bit of trouble.

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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

why have the military do something when you can pay someone else 2x the money to do it for you...

sSubZerOo

I understand what your saying, but mercenaries seem to be under a lot less scrutiny and cause a good bit of trouble.

Yes I have heard a lot about that, they also seem to be suspected of illegal arms smuggling and prostitution(even with underage girls), the more I hear about them the more they sound like thugs.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

I understand what your saying, but mercenaries seem to be under a lot less scrutiny and cause a good bit of trouble.

Yes I have heard a lot about that, they also seem to be suspected of illegal arms smuggling and prostitution(even with underage girls), the more I hear about them the more they sound like thugs.

Time to send in Rat Patrol 01.

Its a much better wage then the military. If I was gonna go to Afghanistan, id rather go with them, they get paid ridiculous amounts.

It is proof that some industries should not be privatized.Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]If there is one thing that should always be under government control, it's the military. You can't trust a corporation with something as powerful and potentially dangerous as an advanced military force. They seek profit, not security and they have very few rules. comp_atkins

I was thinking the same thing

PMCs are bad. We cant let crazy fundamentalists get their hands on armies...

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] .. They do.. Infact Blackwater didn't get any real rules for 6 years for the Iraq war.. Where contractors could kill iraqi civilians, get sent back to teh United States with a slap on the wrist.. Only to go back the next week under another company... They should not be used, especially Blackwater which has been found to have a evangelical christian agenda, which is not the smartest peopel to use in a land that much of the population believe you are committing holy war.sSubZerOo

Yes I have heard a lot about that, they also seem to be suspected of illegal arms smuggling and prostitution(even with underage girls), the more I hear about them the more they sound like thugs.

Use of PMC against UN Charter/ROE's not to mention international law

but when US use them they are called ''military contractors''

any other country ''paramilitaries'' :twisted:

[QUOTE="rastaman219"]Doesn't bother me, the way things are going in the UK our whole country will probably be privatized in 10 years. Plus, it puts less strain on the Government in the terms that if they contract them then they don't lose their own solider as such.Deathxcore

thats not necessarily true.

the government provides a certain amount of damage control concerning collateral damage. A laser-guided bomb takes out a terrorist, sweet! We dont really hear about the two families that died too.

Blackwater accidentally shoots a kid, its all over the news and we all wag our fingers at them.

Not saying either situation is ok, but Blackwater is suprisingly held to a higher standard than our own military in some regards.

As for the question, I think it is ok in some conflicts, but in a large-scale war, I dont think they have any reason to be there

I have not seen them in the news in a while, but Blackwater always to be getting in trouble.

Mercenary848

Am I the only one thinking of Crusaders? them fighting in iraq etc....and being paid to kill and steal type thing? isn't that what Crusaders used to do? lol

Am I the only one thinking of Crusaders? them fighting in iraq etc....and being paid to kill and steal type thing? isn't that what Crusaders used to do? lol

PyroZero

i dont know if anyones beaten me to this but

war.. has changed

Am I the only one thinking of Crusaders? them fighting in iraq etc....and being paid to kill and steal type thing? isn't that what Crusaders used to do? lol

PyroZero

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Am I the only one thinking of Crusaders? them fighting in iraq etc....and being paid to kill and steal type thing? isn't that what Crusaders used to do? lol

RiseAgainst12

If you believe GWB and Tony Blair their mission was from God himself

Blair even implied that when he said ''I only answer to God'' or something similar

Am I the only one thinking of Crusaders? them fighting in iraq etc....and being paid to kill and steal type thing? isn't that what Crusaders used to do? lol

PyroZero

Hiring mercenary armies was a common practice way back in European history, if memory serves me right it was basically how the 30 years war was fought. That's still not the code of military conduct you want to be holding up as a shining example.

It is proof that some industries should not be privatized.Engrish_Major

They could be helpful in some situations, if they accidentially kill some people in the process, oh well such is war as long as they don't do uneccssary kills.

War is not for profit. My answer is always NO to PMCs. mixedplanet

[QUOTE="mixedplanet"]War is not for profit. My answer is always NO to PMCs. tormentor313

i dont know if anyones beaten me to this but

war.. has changed

Thessassin

With the money they're making, I'd LOVE to get hired to work for one after my term of enlistment in the USMC is over. If I can get the training in a K-9 unit, I can be making 6 digits. Before I'm 30. Without college, or any expenses.

With the money they're making, I'd LOVE to get hired to work for one after my term of enlistment in the USMC is over. If I can get the training in a K-9 unit, I can be making 6 digits. Before I'm 30. Without college, or any expenses.

-TheSecondSign-

i dont know if anyones beaten me to this but

war.. has changed

Thessassin

[QUOTE="Thessassin"]

i dont know if anyones beaten me to this but

war.. has changed

redstorm72

Thumbs up :D

going to start Freespace again (312-th time ) :o

From my experience PMC's are basicly organized Rambos sent in to kick ass and save the world. (For profit) So that means they're awesome.

Use them for cannon fodder? Send them in to waste the enemy's ammo supply before rolling your troops in.

Then you won't have to pay them!

It also gives you deniability (i.e. "We didn't wipe out that village! Blackwater did, now go protest somewhere else!").