What does this quotation mean?

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#1 Mr_Versipellis
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"Battle not with monsters
lest ye become a monster
and if you gaze into the abyss
the abyss gazes into you."

I know it's very well known. heck, it even opebned 'Baldur's Gate', and my NWN module Bose's Gate begins with a rip-off of this. I opened an eagerly-awaited book the other day, and was faced with this. It was at that point that I realsied i didn't know what it meant. Obviously it's fairly obvious in the literal sense butt something tells me there's more to it than that.

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#2 Theokhoth
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I believe it was Nietzsche who said that. As for what it means. . .there are several interpretations.

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"Battle not with monsters
lest ye become a monster
and if you gaze into the abyss
the abyss gazes into you."

I know it's very well known. heck, it even opebned 'Baldur's Gate', and my NWN module Bose's Gate begins with a rip-off of this. I opened an eagerly-awaited book the other day, and was faced with this. It was at that point that I realsied i didn't know what it meant. Obviously it's fairly obvious in the literal sense butt something tells me there's more to it than that.

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I have a simple definition. It means "battling with "monsters" causes you to become what you are trying not to be, and you hit that reality when you really think about it".

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I believe it was Nietzsche who said that. As for what it means. . .there are several interpretations.

Theokhoth
Indeed it was he.
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The quotation seems to me to try and convey to the reader that you must be wary when pondering the deep, dark and nihilistic. The word 'abyss' symbolises the deepest wells of nihilism from which no light or hope eminates. Thus to gaze deep into the abyss is to look into the darkness of the human condition itself; and of course the staring back of the abyss represents the point at which the nihlism becomes and envelops the scholar. The monster Nietzsche speaks of seems to me to be any percieved vice, or flaw of the human.