What if the Central Powers won WW1

As the topic suggests, what if the Central Powers (Germany, Austria-Hungary, Ottoman Empire)won WW1? Or, any other what ifs we can come up with. And it will be refreshing to discuss it other than WW2.

then we'd all be speakin' German! DERP.

I win with Germany and Turkey all the time in Diplomacy.

then we'd all be speakin' German! DERP.

MarioRPGer

I'll probably be living in a German colony.Lonelynight

I win with Germany and Turkey all the time in Diplomacy.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]I'll probably be living in a German colony.lordreaven

Then:

1) The US would still be isolationist.

2) Britain would be alone.

3) Germany + Austria would have become one state.

4) France would probably have been annexed by them.

5) The large German state would have ignored Russia withdrawing from the war do to its own civil war, invaded and captured it...

6) Germany would have slowly but surely annexed all of Europe until basically what is the EU today would be a single German/Austrian state.

7) WW2 wouldn't have happened.

8) Cold War wouldn't have happened.

9) Eventually German influences would spread south and east, taking all of Africa, the Middle East, and Asia...

10) Eventually it would have reach North and South America...

11) Entire world lives peacefully under a single German state...

Maybe they should have won?

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]I win with Germany and Turkey all the time in Diplomacy.Lonelynight

hitler only came to power in germany because their pride was broken after WW1,

especially after The Entente Forces gave most of the blame on Germany alone, because they where afraid it could grow and become a great competitor,

and thats exactly what happend, simply because they threated them that way.

So without all those factors, its hard to guess what would have happend, especially form a "we would all be speaking german" hurr durr point of view.

Which game are you talking about?Lonelynight

Then:

1) The US would still be isolationist.

2) Britain would be alone.

3) Germany + Austria would have become one state.

4) France would probably have been annexed by them.

5) The large German state would have ignored Russia withdrawing from the war do to its own civil war, invaded and captured it...

6) Germany would have slowly but surely annexed all of Europe until basically what is the EU today would be a single German/Austrian state.

7) WW2 wouldn't have happened.

8) Cold War wouldn't have happened.

9) Eventually German influences would spread south and east, taking all of Africa, the Middle East, and Asia...

10) Eventually it would have reach North and South America...

11) Entire world lives peacefully under a single German state...

Maybe they should have won?

A game that turns friends into enemies. But one that is WAY more fun than Risk.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]A game that turns friends into enemies. But one that is WAY more fun than Risk.Lonelynight

Oh, I thought it was something like Hearts of Iron. Only set in WW1.Lonelynight

Your thinking Victoria 2. And Diplomacy is a board game (is there a computer game for it?).lordreaven

Then:

1) The US would still be isolationist.

2) Britain would be alone.

3) Germany + Austria would have become one state.

4) France would probably have been annexed by them.

5) The large German state would have ignored Russia withdrawing from the war do to its own civil war, invaded and captured it...

6) Germany would have slowly but surely annexed all of Europe until basically what is the EU today would be a single German/Austrian state.

7) WW2 wouldn't have happened.

8) Cold War wouldn't have happened.

9) Eventually German influences would spread south and east, taking all of Africa, the Middle East, and Asia...

10) Eventually it would have reach North and South America...

11) Entire world lives peacefully under a single German state...

Maybe they should have won?

Then:

1) The US would still be isolationist.

2) Britain would be alone.

3) Germany + Austria would have become one state.

4) France would probably have been annexed by them.

5) The large German state would have ignored Russia withdrawing from the war do to its own civil war, invaded and captured it...

6) Germany would have slowly but surely annexed all of Europe until basically what is the EU today would be a single German/Austrian state.

7) WW2 wouldn't have happened.

8) Cold War wouldn't have happened.

9) Eventually German influences would spread south and east, taking all of Africa, the Middle East, and Asia...

10) Eventually it would have reach North and South America...

11) Entire world lives peacefully under a single German state...

Maybe they should have won?

most likely, most of us wouldn't have been born. My grandparents came here from Ireland during WWII and my dad was born here and met my Mom who's family has been here a very long time. And obviously, WWII wouldn't have happened (at least not in the same way) if the central powers won.

France would either been annexed or suffered the same fate as Germany after WWI but Britain would have been fine none of the central powers had the capacity to invade and even with money the ottomons would have collapsed due to internal strife leaving germany as the major power in europe and a cold war would likely have occured between Germany and Great Britain with both Russia and USA taking an isolationist role in world politics.

Europe today would be Germany/Austria Hungary.

most likely, most of us wouldn't have been born. My grandparents came here from Ireland during WWII and my dad was born here and met my Mom who's family has been here a very long time. And obviously, WWII wouldn't have happened (at least not in the same way) if the central powers won.

iloverikku11

I would have born, as an American with roots in Britain and Germany well before WW1

One thing you guys missed was how immensely different the Middle East would be with the Ottoman Empire surviving and all western influence in the region dissolved.. Israel most certainly wouldn't have existed, and the governments would probably be socialists possible democracies later on.. sSubZerOo

Europe today would be Germany/Austria Hungary.

muller39

what would happen to north america..?

wait.. what about japan..

[QUOTE="muller39"]

Europe today would be Germany/Austria Hungary.

what would happen to north america..?

wait.. what about japan..

I've read a book on this, which argued that France would have been plunged into another revolution, and Britain might still be an empire today. The only way germany could have won would be in the first year of the war, if the Schlieffen plan had worked, they would have swept the Belgium and british armies into the sea and taken Paris in one move

WW2 probably wouldn't happen because Germany wouldn't have all the debts and other punishments thrown at them after the war, and thus the Germans wouldn't have been desperate enough to follow Hitler's rule.

But hey, alternate history has so many possible answers.

Before or after US sided with allies.

Would be key in determining world shape. Along with how it was one.

The most likely scenario would have France in a similar condition as Germany after WW1, but England would be mostly safe with its steal fleet. So England would lose some smaller colonies, and receive debts they owe but ould still be a big player in world stage.

So...

US: Mostly OK.

UK: Broke, but mostly OK.

France: Simply ******

Germany: Mega Power

Russia: Still revolutionising.

Italy: ???, they kept switching sides after all.

Austria-Hungry: Unstable, but still alive.

Middle East: Not as ***** up, with Britain never colonizing.

Well it depends, would Russia go into teh revolution? It all depends, what mostly sparked it was the loss of most of Czar's armies in Germany (iirc). Now that I think of it, we would probebly have been better off with the Central powers winning actually.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]I win with Germany and Turkey all the time in Diplomacy.Lonelynight

Aside from chess, it is the single greatest board game to have ever existed.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]I win with Germany and Turkey all the time in Diplomacy.coolbeans90

Aside from chess, it is the single greatest board game to have ever existed.

WW2 would have never happened for one, not the way it did at least. WWI's main outcome was the fall of empires across the world and I think that even if the central powers had won it probably would have played out similarily. I think by now things would be very similar to how they are but Hitler would never have risen to power and some of our values may be a little different. People seem to forget that there wasn't really a "good" side in WWI, it was just empires fighting to expand/keep their empires and in the end Versailles was the biggest kick in the nuts from that entire war since it came and bit everyone back 20 years later.Ace6301

True that.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"] Which game are you talking about?lordreaven

Aside from chess, it is the single greatest board game to have ever existed.

Thanks. I caved into peer pressure. I kinda wanted to have a 10k with the GameSpot default avy, but oh well.

WW2 would have never happened for one, not the way it did at least. WWI's main outcome was the fall of empires across the world and I think that even if the central powers had won it probably would have played out similarily. I think by now things would be very similar to how they are but Hitler would never have risen to power and some of our values may be a little different. People seem to forget that there wasn't really a "good" side in WWI, it was just empires fighting to expand/keep their empires and in the end Versailles was the biggest kick in the nuts from that entire war since it came and bit everyone back 20 years later.Ace6301