What in the WORLD possesses people to think Obama has done NOTHING?

Is it simply partisanship blinding them? Listen, I won't even begin to list the amount of countries he has visited, the amount of bills he has pushed through (or tries to), and the fact that he got us out of a recession that could have potentially been 3x worse. It just blows my mind how people think he has done NOTHING.

You're right he hasn't done nothing. He's accepted a ton of awards he's done nothing to earn.

It's because of Fox "News", some republicans believe anything on that station even when most of it is misinformation.

It's because of Fox "News", some republicans believe anything on that station even when most of it is misinformation.

akira2465

You're right he hasn't done nothing. He's accepted a ton of awards he's done nothing to earn.

Pirate700

I don't know, Pirate, how can you know the Nobel Prize committee doesn't have a crystal ball? Maybe they're awarding it based on future actions. :o

Many believe that Obama is Mickey Mouse and that he would take a magic wand and a sword and quickly fix everything and defeat the dragon. Many of the people critizizing know nothing about politics. :D

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You're right he hasn't done nothing. He's accepted a ton of awards he's done nothing to earn.

chessmaster1989

I don't know, Pirate, how can you know the Nobel Prize committee doesn't have a crystal ball? Maybe they're awarding it based on future actions. :o

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You're right he hasn't done nothing. He's accepted a ton of awards he's done nothing to earn.

Pirate700

I don't know, Pirate, how can you know the Nobel Prize committee doesn't have a crystal ball? Maybe they're awarding it based on future actions. :o

I mean, I understand why they did it, but I don't agree with it...

[QUOTE="akira2465"]

It's because of Fox "News", some republicans believe anything on that station even when most of it is misinformation.

Pirate700

I remember you said you find them credible. Is it too outlandish to say that you were influenced by them? Please, don't lie.

He's pushed a lot of bills that are not yet in action and raised the debt by a good amount. Okay, fine. It's about as much as any other president plus a lot more spending. It's the people who claim that he's "saving the world" or "saving the US" with each bill he passes (which ultimately don't do anything or don't go into effect for such a long time) that tick people off.

YOu realize we're not out of the Recession right? Unemployment has gone up and he's spent Millions of dollars on useless garbage such as a Photo Op and a Trip to NEw York. And I'm sure bringing a Terrorist to NEw York City is the Right move, and having him tried as a civilian?

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You're right he hasn't done nothing. He's accepted a ton of awards he's done nothing to earn.

Pirate700

I don't know, Pirate, how can you know the Nobel Prize committee doesn't have a crystal ball? Maybe they're awarding it based on future actions. :o

Agreed. A Monkey could win the Nobel Peace PRize as well. All he needs to do is Bow down and act subservient to Foreign Leaders.

YOu realize we're not out of the Recession right? Unemployment has gone up and he's spent Millions of dollars on useless garbage such as a Photo Op and a Trip to NEw York. And I'm sure bringing a Terrorist to NEw York City is the Right move, and having him tried as a civilian?

Snipes_2

LINK

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

YOu realize we're not out of the Recession right? Unemployment has gone up and he's spent Millions of dollars on useless garbage such as a Photo Op and a Trip to NEw York. And I'm sure bringing a Terrorist to NEw York City is the Right move, and having him tried as a civilian?

Ace_WondersX

LINK

How does this prove anything? Interest Rates went up and Home Sales went up.

You're right he hasn't done nothing. He's accepted a ton of awards he's done nothing to earn.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

YOu realize we're not out of the Recession right? Unemployment has gone up and he's spent Millions of dollars on useless garbage such as a Photo Op and a Trip to NEw York. And I'm sure bringing a Terrorist to NEw York City is the Right move, and having him tried as a civilian?

Snipes_2

LINK

How does this prove anything? Interest Rates went up and Home Sales went up.

What do the "X's" signify then? Retail sales are still low. And there has not been any improvement on Jobless Claims.

"In economics, arecessionis a general slowdown in economic activity over a long period of time, or abusiness cyclecontraction.[1][2]During recessions, manymacroeconomicindicators vary in a similar way. Production as measured byGross Domestic Product(GDP), employment, investment spending,capacity utilization, household incomes, business profits andinflationall fall during recessions;bankruptciesand theunemployment raterises."

What do the "X's" signify then? Retail sales are still low. And there has not been any improvement on Jobless Claims.

Snipes_2

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You're right he hasn't done nothing. He's accepted a ton of awards he's done nothing to earn.

Pirate700

I don't know, Pirate, how can you know the Nobel Prize committee doesn't have a crystal ball? Maybe they're awarding it based on future actions. :o

Now answer the simple question, are things better now than they were in February 2009?

Now answer the simple question, are things better now than they were in February 2009?

Ace_WondersX

No. Not in my opinion. Did you read my other post?

Lol, Your buddy gave me a Moderation Notice, Thank You. Losing an argument = Moderation Notice Apparently.

[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]

Now answer the simple question, are things better now than they were in February 2009?

Snipes_2

No. Not in my opinion. Did you read my other post?

Lol, Your buddy gave me a Moderation Notice, Thank You.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]

Now answer the simple question, are things better now than they were in February 2009?

Ace_WondersX

No. Not in my opinion. Did you read my other post?

Lol, Your buddy gave me a Moderation Notice, Thank You.

No, they don't. They go Down. Then they increase slightly, by a negligible amount. Bush was Still President when some of them started increasing by the way. HE was sworn in January 20th 2009.

[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

No. Not in my opinion. Did you read my other post?

Lol, Your buddy gave me a Moderation Notice, Thank You.

Snipes_2

No, they don't. They go Down. Then they increase slightly, by a negligible amount. Bush was Still President when they some of them started increasing by the way.

Wait? So you rather have things the way they were in February 2009?

I don't think he hasn't done anything, but I hate it when people make him out to be the world's savior.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I don't know, Pirate, how can you know the Nobel Prize committee doesn't have a crystal ball? Maybe they're awarding it based on future actions. :o

Snipes_2

Agreed. A Monkey could win the Nobel Peace PRize as well. All he needs to do is Bow down and act subservient to Foreign Leaders.

My god are you ever going to let it go? It was a bow of courtesy get over it!

Is it simply partisanship blinding them? Listen, I won't even begin to list the amount of countries he has visited, the amount of bills he has pushed through (or tries to), and the fact that he got us out of a recession that could have potentially been 3x worse. It just blows my mind how people think he has done NOTHING.

GodofBigMacs

He hasn't yet, and if he has then why does everyone still not have a job?

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]I still can't believe he won that and was nominated within 10 days. That's total BS, I'm sorry.

Nkemjo

Agreed. A Monkey could win the Nobel Peace PRize as well. All he needs to do is Bow down and act subservient to Foreign Leaders.

My god are you ever going to let it go? It was a bow of courtesy get over it!

I think the problem is that he's done to much to quickly.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I don't know, Pirate, how can you know the Nobel Prize committee doesn't have a crystal ball? Maybe they're awarding it based on future actions. :o

Snipes_2

Agreed. A Monkey could win the Nobel Peace PRize as well. All he needs to do is Bow down and act subservient to Foreign Leaders.

he really hasnt done anything. he came strong and said no more for israeli settlements, nobody is above the international comunity....etc and he tried to make israel stop, and he tried to force Benyamin Netenyaho to obey him, but he just couldnt, and showed up on TV to say "well, i have never say that stopping the israeli settlements is a condition to start peace negotiations". man is this WEAK or what? GazaAli

The dog is finally started biting the hand that feeds it.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

No, they don't. They go Down. Then they increase slightly, by a negligible amount. Bush was Still President when they some of them started increasing by the way.

TreeMoBMoney

Wait? So you rather have things the way they were in February 2009?

Wow, you do know that without all those attributes the person would be generally useless as a president? Great if you can lead but if your lying to those who follow you who do you think benefits? (Also I'm guessing a lot of people are going to say Bush only had one of those attributes.. guess which one)

[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"][QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]

Wait? So you rather have things the way they were in February 2009?

Nkemjo

Wow, you do know that without all those attributes the person would be generally useless as a president? Great if you can lead but if your lying to those who follow you who do you think benefits? (Also I'm guessing a lot of people are going to say Bush only had one of those attributes.. guess which one)

[QUOTE="Nkemjo"]

[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"] Do you really think people want to hear your internet citing self spewing liberal junk all over the place all the time? Oh hey, while were at it, here my source for him doing nothing: This Just as credible as your sources! If theres 1 attribute thats most important in terms of being the president which do you think it would be? Trustworthiness? Honesty? Leadership? Intelligence? If you dont think leadership is the most important attribute in a president, then dont vote, not that you can, since you seem very young. :)TreeMoBMoney

Wow, you do know that without all those attributes the person would be generally useless as a president? Great if you can lead but if your lying to those who follow you who do you think benefits? (Also I'm guessing a lot of people are going to say Bush only had one of those attributes.. guess which one)

Really I would put honesty over leadership if were talking about having all of them. Don't know about you but I wouldn't want government lying even more than they do now about what goes on. Also do you really think that snl skit is as credible as the sources that Ace gave? That skit was just for fun. He gave economic change charts and stats in the last 12-24 months and you gave us a cheap laugh. Oh and what's with the little snip at the end where you insinuate his intelligence is that of a child? Talk about indirectly insulting.

[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"][QUOTE="Nkemjo"]

Wow, you do know that without all those attributes the person would be generally useless as a president? Great if you can lead but if your lying to those who follow you who do you think benefits? (Also I'm guessing a lot of people are going to say Bush only had one of those attributes.. guess which one)

Nkemjo

Really I would put honesty over leadership if were talking about having all of them. Don't know about you but I wouldn't want government lying even more than they do now about what goes on. Also do you really think that snl skit is as credible as the sources that Ace gave? That skit was just for fun. He gave economic change charts and stats in the last 12-24 months and you gave us a cheap laugh. Oh and what's with the little snip at the end where you insinuate his intelligence is that of a child? Talk about indirectly insulting.

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[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"]I said it was the most important attribute. Not the only one.TreeMoBMoney

Really I would put honesty over leadership if were talking about having all of them. Don't know about you but I wouldn't want government lying even more than they do now about what goes on. Also do you really think that snl skit is as credible as the sources that Ace gave? That skit was just for fun. He gave economic change charts and stats in the last 12-24 months and you gave us a cheap laugh. Oh and what's with the little snip at the end where you insinuate his intelligence is that of a child? Talk about indirectly insulting.

And you cannot lead without your followers believing you, and who will believe you if your not trustworthy or honest? To think someone will say on voting day, 'the man can lead but I just don't trust him that much' and still vote for him is illogical. But to be fair your original remark can't be resolved because as you said you need all of them and anyone missing those traits probably won't end up as the parties nominee.

That's why I picked honesty which I suppose is related to trustworthiness, and he didn't force those facts. Snipes was saying that nothing has improved and Ace gave him a link to show that things have, that's not forcing that's called backing up your statement.

He hasn't done nothing. He's printing lots of money. They tried that in the 70's and it lead to mad crazy inflation. The situation now actually looks a lot like that recession. Only in the 70's they increased the percent of money being pumped into our economy by a much smaller amount than what is being done now.

History tells us that pumping out currency during economic downturns never turns out well. But you know, **** it.

[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"][QUOTE="Nkemjo"]

Really I would put honesty over leadership if were talking about having all of them. Don't know about you but I wouldn't want government lying even more than they do now about what goes on. Also do you really think that snl skit is as credible as the sources that Ace gave? That skit was just for fun. He gave economic change charts and stats in the last 12-24 months and you gave us a cheap laugh. Oh and what's with the little snip at the end where you insinuate his intelligence is that of a child? Talk about indirectly insulting.

Nkemjo

And you cannot lead without your followers believing you, and who will believe you if your not trustworthy or honest? To think someone will say on voting day, 'the man can lead but I just don't trust him that much' and still vote for him is illogical. But to be fair your original remark can't be resolved because as you said you need all of them and anyone missing those traits probably won't end up as the parties nominee.

That's why I picked honesty which I suppose is related to trustworthiness, and he didn't force those facts. Snipes was saying that nothing has improved and Ace gave him a link to show that things have, that's not forcing that's called backing up your statement.

People are mad he did not turn the country around in a few days. These are the same people who do not know how the world works/don't know how big the problems actually are. If Obama could magically turn everything around in a month, he'd do so. Any president would because it makes things easier.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

No, they don't. They go Down. Then they increase slightly, by a negligible amount. Bush was Still President when they some of them started increasing by the way.

TreeMoBMoney

Wait? So you rather have things the way they were in February 2009?

[QUOTE="Nkemjo"]

[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"] trying to force his 'facts' on people is an attribute best fitted for a child. Anyways, trustworthiness shouldn't be the 1# trait for electing a president, it should be leadership, you want someone who will LEAD the country in the right directions and think in the best interest for the country.TreeMoBMoney

And you cannot lead without your followers believing you, and who will believe you if your not trustworthy or honest? To think someone will say on voting day, 'the man can lead but I just don't trust him that much' and still vote for him is illogical. But to be fair your original remark can't be resolved because as you said you need all of them and anyone missing those traits probably won't end up as the parties nominee.

That's why I picked honesty which I suppose is related to trustworthiness, and he didn't force those facts. Snipes was saying that nothing has improved and Ace gave him a link to show that things have, that's not forcing that's called backing up your statement.

:lol: I'm saying the exact same thing as you except leadership has been exchanged with honesty in my argument. Here we go ''Leadership should be the predominate trait'' = your opinion. ''Honesty should be the predominate trait'' = my opinion. Also why do you think I said your original remark can't be resolved? It's bolded up above. Because we have been saying the same thing to each other for the lase 3 posts each. So yes I understand what your saying.

He hasn't done nothing. He's printing lots of money. They tried that in the 70's and it lead to mad crazy inflation. The situation now actually looks a lot like that recession. Only in the 70's they increased the percent of money being pumped into our economy by a much smaller amount than what is being done now.

History tells us that pumping out currency during economic downturns never turns out well. But you know, **** it.

bebopoutlaw3gun

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"] I don't have any mods in my buddy list. And I wasn't asking your opinion, I was asking you to read the charts and answer whether or not they have moved toward more favorable result in the past 9 months.

Ace_WondersX

No, they don't. They go Down. Then they increase slightly, by a negligible amount. Bush was Still President when they some of them started increasing by the way.

Wait? So you rather have things the way they were in February 2009?

You ignored the part where I said they were increasing while BUsh was president a well. When Obama came in most of them were already on the Rise. So, Yes.

[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

No, they don't. They go Down. Then they increase slightly, by a negligible amount. Bush was Still President when they some of them started increasing by the way.

Snipes_2

Wait? So you rather have things the way they were in February 2009?

You ignored the part where I said they were increasing while BUsh was president a well. When Obama came in most of them were already on the Rise. So, Yes.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]

Wait? So you rather have things the way they were in February 2009?

Ace_WondersX

You ignored the part where I said they were increasing while BUsh was president a well. When Obama came in most of them were already on the Rise. So, Yes.

No, I said they weren't improving under Obama, THey were simply RIsing during the Bush Administration. Obama had nothing to do with anything rising. One month after he's voted in? Really? What Bill did he pass to bring about this extraordinary change?