Not tour, they are PAID to be nice when you tour places. what is it like to LIVE there as aforeigner? Is it like Japan or more freedom?
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China is really huge. Which part are you talking about? There are tons of foreigners/expats in Shanghai, Hong Kong and Beijing. So i dont think theres a problem. And about that freedom thing, i've been there several times and encountered no problems. What do you want to do there that might be forbidden?
I used to live there near HK, and it's alright but the quality of the product is real bad, unless you're veryrich.
"chanting" better dead than red, better dead than red "chanting":PCommunism isn't as bad as its made out to be
Gnomefan
"chanting" better dead than red, better dead than red "chanting":P[QUOTE="Phoenix6359"]
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Communism isn't as bad as its made out to be
Gnomefan
Seriously America could be better if we had communism.
i'm not american so i cant really agree or disagree, but communisim is the same as democracy in that it has its goods and bads, the biggest problem is that it is a very expensive form of government, but if u go down the path of china which u could say is capitalist-communism then this isn't a problem, personally even i will almost certainly get abuse, i think a constitutional monarchy is the best but only if is done right which is rareI heard if you misbehave,you get whipped in the streets while David Hasselholf sings to you in German, and massages you. Can anyone confirm to me how disgusting that is :(
"chanting" better dead than red, better dead than red "chanting":P[QUOTE="Phoenix6359"]
[QUOTE="Gnomefan"]
Communism isn't as bad as its made out to be
Gnomefan
Seriously America could be better if we had communism.
your insane...tell me one communist country that has succeded?...china?...venuzuala? do a little more researchSeriously America could be better if we had communism.
Gnomefan
Seeing as how Communism is only good on paper, no, we wouldn't be better. Also, I like my rights, no need to go through life with the government controlling every thought, conversation, and action.
your insane...tell me one communist country that has succeded?...china?...venuzuala? do a little more research
KDIDDY78
There has been no communist countries ever they have all been dictatorships.
[QUOTE="Gnomefan"]
[QUOTE="Phoenix6359"] "chanting" better dead than red, better dead than red "chanting":P
KDIDDY78
Seriously America could be better if we had communism.
your insane...tell me one communist country that has succeded?...china?...venuzuala? do a little more researchFidel Castro in cuba :P. They just don't want americans intruding.
I attended 2 years of school in China and I go back in the summer every other year. China and America are a lot similar than many people think. They play the same sports, have similar goals and vision. Because of lower standards of living, everything is really cheap. The people there are very friendly towards foreigners.
Rural and urban China are very different. If you were just visiting the rural areas, it would be like a third-world country. Many farmers and peasants do not have air conditioning, adequate plumming and high paid jobs. Most urban areas can be comparable to developed nations (but more crowded). Mass numbers of skyscrappers dot every major city.
Of course the government has more control and some websites are blocked out but it's not like most people don't know what is going on. Pretty much anyone that is knowledgeable with a computer can use proxy servers to bypass the firewall and the government usually doesn't care if you do that (the government fears the lesser educated peasants/mobocracy). Criticizing the government is fine but you can't have random protests. I would say the current Chinese government is communist only by name but its policies are anything but communism. The government is definitely an authoritarian state but is nothing like DPRK or the USSR.
The government has a blacklist of people who criticize against them. If you give them an excuse to arrest you, then you're never going to hear the end of it.I attended 2 years of school in China and I go back in the summer every other year. China and America are a lot similar than many people think. They play the same sports, have similar goals and vision. Because of lower standards of living, everything is really cheap. The people there are very friendly towards foreigners.
Rural and urban China are very different. If you were just visiting the rural areas, it would be like a third-world country. Many farmers and peasants do not have air conditioning, adequate plumming and high paid jobs. Most urban areas can be comparable to developed nations (but more crowded). Mass numbers of skyscrappers dot every major city.
Of course the government has more control and some websites are blocked out but it's not like most people don't know what is going on. Pretty much anyone that is knowledgeable with a computer can use proxy servers to bypass the firewall and the government usually doesn't care if you do that (the government fears the lesser educated peasants/mobocracy). Criticizing the government is fine but you can't have random protests. I would say the current Chinese government is communist only by name but its policies are anything but communism. The government is definitely an authoritarian state but is nothing like DPRK or the USSR.
TheWalrusBeast
The government has a blacklist of people who criticize against them. If you give them an excuse to arrest you, then you're never going to hear the end of it.AznsilvrboyYeah those who publish papers, or talk with western media about the goverment's shortcoming. They don't care about average joe badmouthing them tho.
I attended 2 years of school in China and I go back in the summer every other year. China and America are a lot similar than many people think. They play the same sports, have similar goals and vision. Because of lower standards of living, everything is really cheap. The people there are very friendly towards foreigners.
Rural and urban China are very different. If you were just visiting the rural areas, it would be like a third-world country. Many farmers and peasants do not have air conditioning, adequate plumming and high paid jobs. Most urban areas can be comparable to developed nations (but more crowded). Mass numbers of skyscrappers dot every major city.
Of course the government has more control and some websites are blocked out but it's not like most people don't know what is going on. Pretty much anyone that is knowledgeable with a computer can use proxy servers to bypass the firewall and the government usually doesn't care if you do that (the government fears the lesser educated peasants/mobocracy). Criticizing the government is fine but you can't have random protests. I would say the current Chinese government is communist only by name but its policies are anything but communism. The government is definitely an authoritarian state but is nothing like DPRK or the USSR.TheWalrusBeast
You pretty much nailed this one head on :) If you don't mind me asking where did you attend school?
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I attended 2 years of school in China and I go back in the summer every other year. China and America are a lot similar than many people think. They play the same sports, have similar goals and vision. Because of lower standards of living, everything is really cheap. The people there are very friendly towards foreigners.
Rural and urban China are very different. If you were just visiting the rural areas, it would be like a third-world country. Many farmers and peasants do not have air conditioning, adequate plumming and high paid jobs. Most urban areas can be comparable to developed nations (but more crowded). Mass numbers of skyscrappers dot every major city.
Of course the government has more control and some websites are blocked out but it's not like most people don't know what is going on. Pretty much anyone that is knowledgeable with a computer can use proxy servers to bypass the firewall and the government usually doesn't care if you do that (the government fears the lesser educated peasants/mobocracy). Criticizing the government is fine but you can't have random protests. I would say the current Chinese government is communist only by name but its policies are anything but communism. The government is definitely an authoritarian state but is nothing like DPRK or the USSR.ariz3260
You pretty much nailed this one head on :) If you don't mind me asking where did you attend school?
I attended Nanjing International School
I attended Nanjing International School
TheWalrusBeast
Very nice. Hope you had a valuable experience while you were there. Did you get to visit any other part of China?
I'm from HK and have been in the US for the past 13 years now, I got married couple years ago and my wife is from Guangzhou so I have the opportunity to go and visit her folks back there. It is quite incredible to see how far China had come in a few short years
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I attended Nanjing International School
ariz3260
Very nice. Hope you had a valuable experience while you were there. Did you get to visit any other part of China?
I'm from HK and have been in the US for the past 13 years now, I got married couple years ago and my wife is from Guangzhou so I have the opportunity to go and visit her folks back there. It is quite incredible to see how far China had come in a few short years
Yes, I've been to Beijing, Suzhou, Hangzhou, Shanghai, Lhasa, Xi'an in addition to Nanjing. The change has been amazing. I am going back next summer for the 2010 Shanghai World Expo.
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[QUOTE="TheWalrusBeast"]
I attended Nanjing International School
TheWalrusBeast
Very nice. Hope you had a valuable experience while you were there. Did you get to visit any other part of China?
I'm from HK and have been in the US for the past 13 years now, I got married couple years ago and my wife is from Guangzhou so I have the opportunity to go and visit her folks back there. It is quite incredible to see how far China had come in a few short years
Yes, I've been to Beijing, Suzhou, Hangzhou, Shanghai, Lhasa, Xi'an in addition to Nanjing. The change has been amazing. I am going back next summer for the 2010 Shanghai World Expo.
You probably have seen more of China than I have :). I've been to HK, Macau, Guangzhou, Beijing and Haerbin. We planned to go back to China every other year as well but will most likely just stick with Guangzhou since that's where her folks live. I would love to go to Shanghai though, I've heard Shanghai has a lot to offer and the culture very distinctive from HK and Beijing.
Have fun on your trip :)
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[QUOTE="ariz3260"]
Very nice. Hope you had a valuable experience while you were there. Did you get to visit any other part of China?
I'm from HK and have been in the US for the past 13 years now, I got married couple years ago and my wife is from Guangzhou so I have the opportunity to go and visit her folks back there. It is quite incredible to see how far China had come in a few short years
ariz3260
Yes, I've been to Beijing, Suzhou, Hangzhou, Shanghai, Lhasa, Xi'an in addition to Nanjing. The change has been amazing. I am going back next summer for the 2010 Shanghai World Expo.
You probably have seen more of China than I have :). I've been to HK, Macau, Guangzhou, Beijing and Haerbin. We planned to go back to China every other year as well but will most likely just stick with Guangzhou since that's where her folks live. I would love to go to Shanghai though, I've heard Shanghai has a lot to offer and the culture very distinctive from HK and Beijing.
Have fun on your trip :)
Thanks. Hopefully I'll have time next summer to visit the Pearl River Delta region too.
China is really huge. Which part are you talking about? There are tons of foreigners/expats in Shanghai, Hong Kong and Beijing. So i dont think theres a problem. And about that freedom thing, i've been there several times and encountered no problems. What do you want to do there that might be forbidden?
Zerocrossings
Those are the main three places that come to mind when I hear China. :P
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