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#1 sovereign_22
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i was thinking earlier today about how we all got here, about the big bang, because eventually our universe will collapse on itself, become super condensed, and cause another big bang, so we cant be after the first big bang, there was another universe before that, and another one before that, and so on. how did it all start? did it even start at all? it just made me think of what time, space, and reality really is. yeah, i was pretty stoned earlier today but seriously, what do you think? ps: PLEASE dont turn this into argument over evolution and religion!
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#2 Mutatedbloodelf
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Robots have complete controll.
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A series of tubes.
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#4 gobo212
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Why does there have to be begining and an end?
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#5 gdogghenrikson
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I dont know
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#6 sovereign_22
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Why does there have to be begining and an end?gobo212
thats kind of what im saying, i dont think there is a begining or an end
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#7 k_ozz
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Before dark energy, there are two scenarios for the future of the universe. If the mass density of the universe were greater than the critical density, then the universe would reach a maximum size and then begin to collapse. It would become denser and hotter again, ending with a state that was similar to that in which it started. Alternatively, if the density in the universe were equal to or below the critical density, the expansion would slow down, but never stop. Star formation would cease, stars would burn out leaving white dwarfs, neutron stars, and black holes.And collisions between these would result in mass accumulating into larger and larger black holes. The average temperature of the universe would approach absolute zero.This would result in radiation and black holes cos of the proton being unstable. Eventually, black holes would evaporate. The entropy of the universe would increase to the point where no organized form of energy could be extracted from it also called heat death.

Modern observations of accelerated expansion imply that more and more of the currently visible universe will pass beyond our event horizon and out of contact with us. The eventual result is not known. The Lamda-CDM model of the universe contains dark energy in the form of a cosmological constant. This theory suggests that only gravitationally bound systems, such as galaxies, would remain together, and they too would be subject to heat death, as the universe expands and cools.

This explanation will surely answer your questions as to why it happens and if understand why it happens u will be able to realize how it started..:)

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#8 gobo212
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[QUOTE="gobo212"]Why does there have to be begining and an end?sovereign_22
thats kind of what im saying, i dont think there is a begining or an end

I'm inclined to agree.

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#9 pwn-flakes
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reality is your veiw in the world baced on your choices your memorys and your truths its the way we see things diffenily to others
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#10 sovereign_22
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woah k_ozz how do you know all that are you some kind of sientist? thats interesting, ive heard some stuff about that dark energy, thats crazy, its almost as if thats whats in control of our universe
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Well there was a theory that in the beginning the big bang was caused by two parallel universes colliding or some such event.
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#12 sovereign_22
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reality is your veiw in the world baced on your choices your memorys and your truths its the way we see things diffenily to others pwn-flakes
i totally agree, ive always said reality is what your mind tells you its
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#13 damaster101
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People ask about the Big Bang, Chuck Norris shrugs it off as a bad-case of gas.

Nah i don't beleive it because its a human that created the Big Bang theory and i'm not going to base on how the universe was created on another persons judgement and on something that probably happened billions of years ago.I really don't know but i've thought up some weird theories i remember one i'll keep it short.

Every atom is a universe and if we mess with them atoms they bloody blow up.Now you gotta understand that i was a bit out of it when i thought this up and theres obviously deeper explanation this.

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Before dark energy, there are two scenarios for the future of the universe. If the mass density of the universe were greater than the critical density, then the universe would reach a maximum size and then begin to collapse. It would become denser and hotter again, ending with a state that was similar to that in which it started. Alternatively, if the density in the universe were equal to or below the critical density, the expansion would slow down, but never stop. Star formation would cease, stars would burn out leaving white dwarfs, neutron stars, and black holes.And collisions between these would result in mass accumulating into larger and larger black holes. The average temperature of the universe would approach absolute zero.This would result in radiation and black holes cos of the proton being unstable. Eventually, black holes would evaporate. The entropy of the universe would increase to the point where no organized form of energy could be extracted from it also called heat death.

Modern observations of accelerated expansion imply that more and more of the currently visible universe will pass beyond our event horizon and out of contact with us. The eventual result is not known. The Lamda-CDM model of the universe contains dark energy in the form of a cosmological constant. This theory suggests that only gravitationally bound systems, such as galaxies, would remain together, and they too would be subject to heat death, as the universe expands and cools.

This explanation will surely answer your questions as to why it happens and if understand why it happens u will be able to realize how it started..:)

k_ozz
either way, that sounds awesome :D
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#15 blooddemon666
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Well there was a theory that in the beginning the big bang was caused by two parallel universes colliding or some such event.Quent1015

I remember seeing something on that during a special about string theory. interesting stuffs

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#16 giton
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reality is everything that is, both being and nothingness. read jean paul satre.
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#17 CptJSparrow
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Only what you perceive it to be.
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#18 pwn-flakes
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[QUOTE="pwn-flakes"]reality is your veiw in the world baced on your choices your memorys and your truths its the way we see things diffenily to others sovereign_22
i totally agree, ive always said reality is what your mind tells you its



we seem so small when we think about eveything but most of the time humans are thinking about there hair shoes brands war but in the end thats probly y humans have done anything coz of the simple mindedness and not thinking about the whole picture
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#19 Wetall_basic
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Existentialist!! Run for your lives!

Heh,but yeah,reality huh? Sometimes I'm pretty sure reality is just a made up situation,someone is controlling everything around me and monitering my progress,and when I die I'll see a score and I'll step out of the Life Simulator,to make room for the next guy.
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Too many theories, it may have happened, it may not have. Basically, if I try to follow how everything began, even if it did, it'll have more turns than a fan-fic on an already twisty plot. Take the X-Men series for example. So much time travel, alternate universes, you begin to wonder if Wolverine is some Canadian guy, or an alien.
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#21 gobo212
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Only what you perceive it to be.CptJSparrow

You damn Idealist!! :P

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#22 sovereign_22
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wow you guys have some really great thoughts this is interesting
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#23 cashis44624
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I think That This Kinda Question Has An Endless Answer.....Reality Is A Fact That Alot Of ppl Like To Avoid ....Well , And It Could Be Considered as The Main " Concept" Going On in Our World
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this reality? an illusion.... a vibration of the mind.. think about it... as you hold that mouse in your hand, what is deciphering what you feel, see, and hear it do? I always trip my friends out talking about this sort of stuff.... sure the nerves are there in your hand to feel the mouse... but it's your mind that computes it and decides how it feels... same with vision... your eyes may be focusing on an object, but really it is your mind which perceives it. Therefore, this whole reality is merely an illusion of our mind. There's this one type of fungus which has been highly revered for many many years, which manifests from cow dun... very enlightening... very enlightening indeed.
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#25 giton
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Only what you perceive it to be.CptJSparrow

perception isn't reality. it may be what people really react to, versus objective reality, but perception is just what we sense, not what is.

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#26 k_ozz
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woah k_ozz how do you know all that are you some kind of sientist? thats interesting, ive heard some stuff about that dark energy, thats crazy, its almost as if thats whats in control of our universesovereign_22


:lol:M no sientist..Just an engg student..And fate of the universe is based on Big Church theory..And there wont be a complete end to the unverse as our universe is just one universe among the infinite parallel universes..Of which some are open and others are closed...Each of these universes will have diff fates..And ya Dark energy kinda controls the fate of the universe as it increases the rate of expansion of the universe..

Anything that has a start has to end..So does the universe..So instead of worrying bout the big bang and dark energy as we cannot do anything bout it.. Its better we try to make our lives peacefull as long as we exist by controlling GLOBAL WARMING.. I guess even before the big bang global warming itself will cease all human lives to exist..
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What is reality? The emptiness of emptiness.
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#28 gobo212
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[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]Only what you perceive it to be.giton

perception isn't reality. it may be what people really react to, versus objective reality, but perception is just what we sense, not what is.

George Berkeley might disagree...

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none fof you are real and im actually a higher being creating this world as i go through it as me who is just a player of the higher being that i am:|
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this reality? an illusion.... a vibration of the mind.. think about it... as you hold that mouse in your hand, what is deciphering what you feel, see, and hear it do? I always trip my friends out talking about this sort of stuff.... sure the nerves are there in your hand to feel the mouse... but it's your mind that computes it and decides how it feels... same with vision... your eyes may be focusing on an object, but really it is your mind which perceives it. Therefore, this whole reality is merely an illusion of our mind. There's this one type of fungus which has been highly revered for many many years, which manifests from cow dun... very enlightening... very enlightening indeed.proctorsurf

lay off the shrooms dude

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#31 sovereign_22
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this reality? an illusion.... a vibration of the mind.. think about it... as you hold that mouse in your hand, what is deciphering what you feel, see, and hear it do? I always trip my friends out talking about this sort of stuff.... sure the nerves are there in your hand to feel the mouse... but it's your mind that computes it and decides how it feels... same with vision... your eyes may be focusing on an object, but really it is your mind which perceives it. Therefore, this whole reality is merely an illusion of our mind. There's this one type of fungus which has been highly revered for many many years, which manifests from cow dun... very enlightening... very enlightening indeed.proctorsurf
very true, yeah i trip out some of my friends talking about this kind of stuff too. makes me laugh
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none fof you are real and im actually a higher being creating this world as i go through it as me who is just a player of the higher being that i am:|inyourface_12
Say what? :| After I read the post, I was at a loss. That's what I'm talking about. :lol:

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[QUOTE="inyourface_12"]none fof you are real and im actually a higher being creating this world as i go through it as me who is just a player of the higher being that i am:|Cyrax-Sektor

Say what? :| After I read the post, I was at a loss. That's what I'm talking about. :lol:

thanks?:P
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#34 giton
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[QUOTE="giton"]

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]Only what you perceive it to be.gobo212

perception isn't reality. it may be what people really react to, versus objective reality, but perception is just what we sense, not what is.

Georse Berkeley might disagree...

or Timothy Leary?

No, I doubt George Berkeley would disagree that perception isn't reality. He would say you can't know reality, but not that your perception creates it or defines it. ... I think.

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[QUOTE="Cyrax-Sektor"]

[QUOTE="inyourface_12"]none fof you are real and im actually a higher being creating this world as i go through it as me who is just a player of the higher being that i am:|inyourface_12

Say what? :| After I read the post, I was at a loss. That's what I'm talking about. :lol:

thanks?:P

If the earth doesn't tear at the seams, then yes. :P