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#1 wildjango64
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seriously my friend is a so called "metalhead" he told me about a few metal bands so i tried to give em a shot. after just one song i could not understand what can be so good about screaming at the top of your lungs. the only thing thats impressive is the solo guitar playing but why does everyone here like it so much???

btw i mostly listen to alternative/punk/classic rock

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#2 muay_thai_demon
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The anger.
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seriously my friend is a so called "metalhead" he told me about a few metal bands so i tried to give em a shot. after just one song i could not understand what can be so good about screaming at the top of your lungs. the only thing thats impressive is the solo guitar playing but why does everyone here like it so much???

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because second to classical and jazz fusion, it is the most technical music their is, and compared to classic rock / alternative rock / punk.. the skill of the musicians produces more complex music which us metalheads love.. no 3chord garbage for us.
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#4 Shrapnel99
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I believe you mean Hard Death Rock.

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#5 Samwel_X
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I don't like the stuff. I couldn't pin point an appeal. But different people like different things, and it may appeal to their interests and feelings more than it does to mine or yours.

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#6 wildjango64
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I believe you mean Hard Death Rock.

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wtf????
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The appeal is in the intensity. The technical riffs, violent/blasphemous lyrics and generally fast paced tempos.

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#8 Wolf-Man2006
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I don't know, but different people like certain things that others can't stand (for me, the death metal scene).

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#9 tzar3
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I like it because of its monstrosity like sound, evil and wickedness. Also lets remember that Death Metal is rather technical and requires amazing skill to play.

Its orgasmic to the ears, well for us that enjoy it anyways...

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[QUOTE="wildjango64"]

seriously my friend is a so called "metalhead" he told me about a few metal bands so i tried to give em a shot. after just one song i could not understand what can be so good about screaming at the top of your lungs. the only thing thats impressive is the solo guitar playing but why does everyone here like it so much???

nimatoad2000
because second to classical and jazz fusion, it is the most technical music their is, and compared to classic rock / alternative rock / punk.. the skill of the musicians produces more complex music which us metalheads love.. no 3chord garbage for us.

Thanks for posting that.
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[QUOTE="wildjango64"][QUOTE="Shrapnel99"]

I believe you mean Hard Death Rock.

wtf????

Old thread reference :P
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I had to do a radio interview about this last year, and this is the way I answer this question now whenever it comes up: Two adjectives that are frequently used in a positive sense by extreme metal fans is "true" and "brutal" (or some variation on brutal). If you can truly understand or figure out how "true" and "brutal" can be not only positive adjectives in relation to music, but CRUCIAL and perhaps the most important qualities in music, you will understand the appeal of extreme music. If you can't understand what "true" and "brutal" mean, if you can't understand how either can be positive in music or if you can't grasp how these two elements can be vital in music, you will never understand extreme metal, whether it be thrash, black, death, doom, or whatever. I can't make anyone appreciate extreme music; some people get it, others don't.
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#13 HereticGamer911
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The appeal is in the intensity. The technical riffs, violent/blasphemous lyrics and generally fast paced tempos.

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I think that people are missing something... Not only can their riffs be technical, they can also sound really really good. The best riffs of all time have probably come from Metal.
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It's awesome that's why, and if I play it loud enough, it pisses off my neighbors and those walking by my house.
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[QUOTE="Paladin_King"]I had to do a radio interview about this last year, and this is the way I answer this question now whenever it comes up: Two adjectives that are frequently used in a positive sense by extreme metal fans is "true" and "brutal" (or some variation on brutal). If you can truly understand or figure out how "true" and "brutal" can be not only positive adjectives in relation to music, but CRUCIAL and perhaps the most important qualities in music, you will understand the appeal of extreme music. If you can't understand what "true" and "brutal" mean, if you can't understand how either can be positive in music or if you can't grasp how these two elements can be vital in music, you will never understand extreme metal, whether it be thrash, black, death, doom, or whatever. I can't make anyone appreciate extreme music; some people get it, others don't.

I don't listen to metal because it's brutal though, I just like it.
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Well, for starters, Death and Heavy metal don't even sound alike. And traditional Heavy Metal isn't all that different for classic rock. Start with Judas Priest's old albums, you'll go from there.

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The power the rush the anger. Not only that but its beautiful when its just right. Ive literaly busted out laughing before listening to metal, but that only happens when i've been so amazed by the sound that I dont know how to react.

Changed my links, first one is The Devil Wears Prada - Goats on a Boat, second link is The Agony Scene- Screams Turn to Silence,
and the third is Otep - Blood Pigs

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#18 HereticGamer911
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At the TC, what is the appeal of Alternative/Punk/Classic Rock? Not trying troll or anything, I just want to hear your answer.
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[QUOTE="Paladin_King"]I had to do a radio interview about this last year, and this is the way I answer this question now whenever it comes up: Two adjectives that are frequently used in a positive sense by extreme metal fans is "true" and "brutal" (or some variation on brutal). If you can truly understand or figure out how "true" and "brutal" can be not only positive adjectives in relation to music, but CRUCIAL and perhaps the most important qualities in music, you will understand the appeal of extreme music. If you can't understand what "true" and "brutal" mean, if you can't understand how either can be positive in music or if you can't grasp how these two elements can be vital in music, you will never understand extreme metal, whether it be thrash, black, death, doom, or whatever. I can't make anyone appreciate extreme music; some people get it, others don't.cyberdarkkid
I don't listen to metal because it's brutal though, I just like it.

i agree with cyberdark paladin king, who cares is something is true, and i dont listen to metal for brutality, i could care less about brutality, i care about technical riffs, good riffs, good music and awesome lyrics. speed and brutality are cool, but not the reason why i listen and keep listening.

people that say brutality is why they listen to metal are the mindless moshers that dont even listen to the music, they are just the ones who feed off the energy, no musical taste at all.

and people who argue about if something is " True" are just the elitists that hate on bands because they are new / different or any other reason they can come up with to devalue an artists integrity or musical value.

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I hate it. It's mainly because of the horrible vocals and disgusting lyrics - I'll very often find a good song ruined by "harsh vocals". Also, many heavy metal songs seem unstructured to me.

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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="Paladin_King"]I had to do a radio interview about this last year, and this is the way I answer this question now whenever it comes up: Two adjectives that are frequently used in a positive sense by extreme metal fans is "true" and "brutal" (or some variation on brutal). If you can truly understand or figure out how "true" and "brutal" can be not only positive adjectives in relation to music, but CRUCIAL and perhaps the most important qualities in music, you will understand the appeal of extreme music. If you can't understand what "true" and "brutal" mean, if you can't understand how either can be positive in music or if you can't grasp how these two elements can be vital in music, you will never understand extreme metal, whether it be thrash, black, death, doom, or whatever. I can't make anyone appreciate extreme music; some people get it, others don't.

I don't listen to metal because it's brutal though, I just like it.

I don't think you understand what i meant by "brutal." Why do you like metal? If you had to answer it? Maybe you'll say something about the intensity of the music, or the technical ability, or the emotion/anger/whatever. All of those things are "brutal." Brutal is taking things to the limit, pushing the envelope, giving the finger to constraints, conformity (musically or otherwise), and what's culturally/socially "acceptable." Good metal is brutal because it will go where other music will not and does so in the extreme, and without fear. Why just sing when you can also scream?
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At the TC, what is the appeal of Alternative/Punk/Classic Rock? Not trying troll or anything, I just want to hear your answer.HereticGamer911
good music riffs and understandable lyrics to be able to sing along to. also because it has lyrics with meaning and not just screaming.
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[QUOTE="Paladin_King"][QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="Paladin_King"]I had to do a radio interview about this last year, and this is the way I answer this question now whenever it comes up: Two adjectives that are frequently used in a positive sense by extreme metal fans is "true" and "brutal" (or some variation on brutal). If you can truly understand or figure out how "true" and "brutal" can be not only positive adjectives in relation to music, but CRUCIAL and perhaps the most important qualities in music, you will understand the appeal of extreme music. If you can't understand what "true" and "brutal" mean, if you can't understand how either can be positive in music or if you can't grasp how these two elements can be vital in music, you will never understand extreme metal, whether it be thrash, black, death, doom, or whatever. I can't make anyone appreciate extreme music; some people get it, others don't.

I don't listen to metal because it's brutal though, I just like it.

I don't think you understand what i meant by "brutal." Why do you like metal? If you had to answer it? Maybe you'll say something about the intensity of the music, or the technical ability, or the emotion/anger/whatever. All of those things are "brutal." Brutal is taking things to the limit, pushing the envelope, giving the finger to constraints, conformity (musically or otherwise), and what's culturally/socially "acceptable." Good metal is brutal because it will go where other music will not and does so in the extreme, and without fear. Why just sing when you can also scream?

Well I think nimatoad understood what I meant exactly.
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[QUOTE="HereticGamer911"]At the TC, what is the appeal of Alternative/Punk/Classic Rock? Not trying troll or anything, I just want to hear your answer.wildjango64
good music riffs and understandable lyrics to be able to sing along to. also because it has lyrics with meaning and not just screaming.

actually a lot death metal songs have lyrics with meaning,
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[QUOTE="HereticGamer911"]At the TC, what is the appeal of Alternative/Punk/Classic Rock? Not trying troll or anything, I just want to hear your answer.wildjango64
good music riffs and understandable lyrics to be able to sing along to. also because it has lyrics with meaning and not just screaming.

your right man, i hear no good riffs, nor can i understand ANYTHING that is being sung in this song. metal sucks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiRFotX-RY4&feature=PlayList&p=7D762A1937D7C421&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=25

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I don't know either, I have a friend who is like that. Screaming, pounding on drums as fast as one can, and playing 1 chord guitar riffs isn't hard, I must admit. If you call cannibal corpse, obituary, lamb of god, cattle decapitation, or any band like that "music", there is something wrong with you.
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The power the rush the anger. Not only that but its beautiful when its just right. Ive literaly busted out laughing before listening to metal, but that only happens when i've been so amazed by the sound that I dont know how to react.

MuddVader

That ain't Death Metal...

This is Death Metal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJoANg1jvUA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaMxTkQ8PUQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_Pq86rHp1E

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[QUOTE="HereticGamer911"]At the TC, what is the appeal of Alternative/Punk/Classic Rock? Not trying troll or anything, I just want to hear your answer.wildjango64
good music riffs and understandable lyrics to be able to sing along to. also because it has lyrics with meaning and not just screaming.

There are lots and lots of metal bands where you can understand what they say, I think you just listened to the wrong ones.
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if Ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise.
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[QUOTE="wildjango64"][QUOTE="HereticGamer911"]At the TC, what is the appeal of Alternative/Punk/Classic Rock? Not trying troll or anything, I just want to hear your answer.AxeStrangler
good music riffs and understandable lyrics to be able to sing along to. also because it has lyrics with meaning and not just screaming.

actually a lot death metal songs have lyrics with meaning,

yes maybe if i could just uderstand them when playing
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[QUOTE="AxeStrangler"][QUOTE="wildjango64"] good music riffs and understandable lyrics to be able to sing along to. also because it has lyrics with meaning and not just screaming. wildjango64
actually a lot death metal songs have lyrics with meaning,

yes maybe if i could just uderstand them when playing

Care to tell me what bands you have listened to?
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[QUOTE="wildjango64"][QUOTE="AxeStrangler"] actually a lot death metal songs have lyrics with meaning,cyberdarkkid
yes maybe if i could just uderstand them when playing

Care to tell me what bands you have listened to?

exactly, if you cannot understand what is being said here: then you need to get your ears checked, and if this song dosnt sucessfully kick you in the face, you need to get a pulse. THE PAINKILLAAAAAAAAAAAAA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quPliK3eAy4

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[QUOTE="mohfrontline"]I don't know either, I have a friend who is like that. Screaming, pounding on drums as fast as one can, and playing 1 chord guitar riffs isn't hard, I must admit. If you call cannibal corpse, obituary, lamb of god, cattle decapitation, or any band like that "music", there is something wrong with you.

:lol: And what do YOU listen to??
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[QUOTE="wildjango64"][QUOTE="AxeStrangler"] actually a lot death metal songs have lyrics with meaning,cyberdarkkid
yes maybe if i could just uderstand them when playing

Care to tell me what bands you have listened to?

as u wish guns n roses pink floyd green day radiohead the rolling stones My chemical romance Linkin park Nirvana coldplay Fall out boy
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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="wildjango64"] yes maybe if i could just uderstand them when playingwildjango64
Care to tell me what bands you have listened to?

as u wish guns n roses pink floyd green day radiohead the rolling stones My chemical romance Linkin park Nirvana coldplay Fall out boy

there is your problem, none of them are metal.. and minus rolling stones, and pink floyd, some guns and roses songs, and coldplay, you listen to a lot of bad music, lol @ green day / fallout boy / nirvana / linkin park.. and you make a thread bashing metal?
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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="wildjango64"] yes maybe if i could just uderstand them when playingwildjango64
Care to tell me what bands you have listened to?

as u wish

guns n roses

pink floyd

green day

radiohead

the rolling stones

My chemical romance

Linkin park

Nirvana

coldplay

Fall out boy

I see where the problem is.

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I don't know either, I have a friend who is like that. Screaming, pounding on drums as fast as one can, and playing 1 chord guitar riffs isn't hard, I must admit. If you call cannibal corpse, obituary, lamb of god, cattle decapitation, or any band like that "music", there is something wrong with you.mohfrontline

Oh yeah, none of these take any talent:

John Petrucci Solos

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like many here have said, the anger.

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[QUOTE="wildjango64"][QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] Care to tell me what bands you have listened to? nimatoad2000
as u wish guns n roses pink floyd green day radiohead the rolling stones My chemical romance Linkin park Nirvana coldplay Fall out boy

there is your problem, none of them are metal.. and minus rolling stones, and pink floyd, some guns and roses songs, and coldplay, you listen to a lot of bad music, lol @ green day / fallout boy / nirvana / linkin park.. and you make a thread bashing metal?

oh wait i thought he asmed me what bands i listen to normally. the band that my friend reccomended were Bring me the Horizon and Slipknot
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[QUOTE="wildjango64"][QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] Care to tell me what bands you have listened to? cyberdarkkid

as u wish

guns n roses

pink floyd

green day

radiohead

the rolling stones

My chemical romance

Linkin park

Nirvana

coldplay

Fall out boy

I see where the problem is.

sorry dude i thought u meant what bands do i listen to normally. but the metal band that my friend told me about was slipknot i only heard 1 song and after that i stopped bcuz my ears were bleeding
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[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="wildjango64"] as u wish guns n roses pink floyd green day radiohead the rolling stones My chemical romance Linkin park Nirvana coldplay Fall out boywildjango64
there is your problem, none of them are metal.. and minus rolling stones, and pink floyd, some guns and roses songs, and coldplay, you listen to a lot of bad music, lol @ green day / fallout boy / nirvana / linkin park.. and you make a thread bashing metal?

oh wait i thought he asmed me what bands i listen to normally. the band that my friend reccomended were Bring me the Horizon and Slipknot

both HORRIBLE. if he likes them, he's not a metalhead, he's a poser, go slap him in the face in real life and call him a poser, then rip up his slipknot sweatshirt and spit on his Iron Maiden Vans ( not bashing maiden but posers buy the shoes)
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[QUOTE="MuddVader"]

The power the rush the anger. Not only that but its beautiful when its just right. Ive literaly busted out laughing before listening to metal, but that only happens when i've been so amazed by the sound that I dont know how to react.

tzar3

That ain't Death Metal...

This is Death Metal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJoANg1jvUA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaMxTkQ8PUQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_Pq86rHp1E


I changed the links alittle, but yeah, I dont think any of them are Death metal anyways.

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like many here have said, the anger.

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#44 nimatoad2000
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wildjango64 : listen to black sabbath, judas priest, Iron Maiden, Mercyful Fate, Motorhead, Metallica, Megadeth, Dream Theater, Opeth to start off, i'm sure you will find that this metal, is much better than the garbage your friend listens to : Slipknot. stay away from genre's called Nu-Metal, Metalcore, Deathcore, pretty much stay away from all the Cores.
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#45 cyberdarkkid
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wildjango64

I see where the problem is.

sorry dude i thought u meant what bands do i listen to normally. but the metal band that my friend told me about was slipknot i only heard 1 song and after that i stopped bcuz my ears were bleeding

In that case I can see why you don't like metal, but those bands aren't really metal. And they're terrible

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#46 cyberdarkkid
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[QUOTE="wildjango64"][QUOTE="nimatoad2000"] there is your problem, none of them are metal.. and minus rolling stones, and pink floyd, some guns and roses songs, and coldplay, you listen to a lot of bad music, lol @ green day / fallout boy / nirvana / linkin park.. and you make a thread bashing metal? nimatoad2000
oh wait i thought he asmed me what bands i listen to normally. the band that my friend reccomended were Bring me the Horizon and Slipknot

both HORRIBLE. if he likes them, he's not a metalhead, he's a poser, go slap him in the face in real life and call him a poser, then rip up his slipknot sweatshirt and spit on his Iron Maiden Vans ( not bashing maiden but posers buy the shoes)

lol it's true I always see people wearing Slipknot shirts :lol:
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#47 Shrapnel99
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[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="wildjango64"] as u wish guns n roses pink floyd green day radiohead the rolling stones My chemical romance Linkin park Nirvana coldplay Fall out boywildjango64
there is your problem, none of them are metal.. and minus rolling stones, and pink floyd, some guns and roses songs, and coldplay, you listen to a lot of bad music, lol @ green day / fallout boy / nirvana / linkin park.. and you make a thread bashing metal?

oh wait i thought he asmed me what bands i listen to normally. the band that my friend reccomended were Bring me the Horizon and Slipknot

Neither of those two bands are death metal.
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The same appeal to anyone who likes any kind of music...

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#49 MuddVader
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The power the rush the anger. Not only that but its beautiful when its just right. Ive literaly busted out laughing before listening to metal, but that only happens when i've been so amazed by the sound that I dont know how to react.

tzar3

That ain't Death Metal...

This is Death Metal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJoANg1jvUA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaMxTkQ8PUQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_Pq86rHp1E


This is more me with that type of metal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-x95Q0SJfY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHvk-fNXqQg