What is the logic behind "dont buy puppies, adopt them!"

You know those animal lovers-mysanthropic people who say that anyone who buys dogs at pet shops is a monster for not adopting and that buying dogs should be illegal? what is the logic behind of this?

They say that street dogs are suffering a lot so they need to be adopted and since there are many street dogs then we shouldn't be buying any before giving a home to every single street dog.

this is extremely stupid, and is somehow trying to imply that pets from pet shops are living a dream, with no suffering at all.

Pets in those shops are confined to a cage that is barely twice their size, 24 hours a day, the seven days of the week, and they can remain there for literally months.

Then, in some pet shops, if a pet fails to be sold, he is sacrificed because keeping him isn't profitable anymore, ofc not every pet shop sacrifices their animals, some of them gave them away to other pet shops or shelters, in which apparently it's now cool to get them, after they already suffered months in the shop because of brainless activists who thought that buying a pet was blasphemy.

The logic behind this is that, if everybody adopts and no one buys, then stuff such as puppy mills will stop existing, which again is something extremely stupid to say, sure that's the goal, but they are not mentioning any way to achieve it, it's like saying "the solution for less traffic is...have less traffic!"

Also their "flawless plan" includes the deaths of millions of dogs in pet shops because no one would be buying them so the owners of the shop would have to get rid of them.

So, am I getting the picture right? or am I missing something?

Their view is that supporting it means it will happen more often so they'd rather adopt to not support it. I don't agree with that logic because they are making the assumption that because they chose not to buy that it's going to somehow end the cruelty from happening in the future, when in reality the animal you chose not to buy is also suffering. It's the same with vegetarians who think because they chose not to eat meat they are saving animals.

My family cat came from a shelter.

Vegeterian and animal lover here... I don't mind what you do. It's your life.

Personally I would never buy a puppy. I can just adopt one, plus for me they aren't objects that I need to sell and buy. But that's my personal view which I don't oppose on anyone. Just like eating meat.:P

Because many animal shelters put the animals to sleep if they don't get adopted, so you're most likely saving their life by adopting. On the other hand, no store is going to kill an animal that they think they can sell for a good price.

Because many animal shelters put the animals to sleep if they don't get adopted, so you're most likely saving their life by adopting. On the other hand, no store is going to kill an animal that they think they can sell for a good price.

Jackc8

buying from a shop you can't guarantee where the animal came from ( which is true for a shelter as well ) but if you're going to actually pay for the animal, you should go to a good breeder ( the source ) to actually learn about the animal's history, parents, etc....comp_atkins

Selling cat and dogs in actual pet stores in US just makes me think that US isn't very modern and nice place at all...

Selling cat and dogs in actual pet stores in US just makes me think that US isn't very modern and nice place at all...xWoW_Rougex

Few pet stores sell* dogs and cats. Many, if not most, these days work together with local shelters to adopt out the dogs and cats from the shelter.

(*There are usually adoption fees involved however.)

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]buying from a shop you can't guarantee where the animal came from ( which is true for a shelter as well ) but if you're going to actually pay for the animal, you should go to a good breeder ( the source ) to actually learn about the animal's history, parents, etc....lightleggy

Selling cat and dogs in actual pet stores in US just makes me think that US isn't very modern and nice place at all...

xWoW_Rougex

While I'm not opposed to adopting pets from a shelter, I do think you should get what you want when choosing a pet. My wife and I have had good luck with Boston Terriers, so the last dog we got was a Boston from a couple who had some puppies. They didn't claim to be breeders -- in fact, they said otherwise -- but it doesn't really matter to me, per se, so long as I get a healthy dog of my choosing.

Now, if we didn't have a preference, we'd get a dog from a shelter, so long as it met some criterea: good with kids/strangers, isn't destructive and so on.

She's a younger here :)

A lot of people are worried about supporting puppy mills as well.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]buying from a shop you can't guarantee where the animal came from ( which is true for a shelter as well ) but if you're going to actually pay for the animal, you should go to a good breeder ( the source ) to actually learn about the animal's history, parents, etc....comp_atkins

I have, and many people underestimate how dangerous they really are.Nibroc420

I call utter BS. I have plenty of experience with abused animals and it has ALWAYS been they would cower in fear of people, NOT attack them.

As for the actual topic of the thread, I think it is more a thing of discouraging puppy mills, which is a good idea. We have so many animals without homes that could very easily make for good pets, yet theres people who keep insisting on putting more and more animals into the system. We also have all the issues with people not properly nutering their pets and whatnot.

There is a whole other topic about big pet store chains and how they mistreat animals. I actually have a pet Chinese Water Dragon I got because I felt the poor guy wasn't being properly cared for at the pet store. Since I have had him he has been good and happy thankfully! Gotten alot bigger and isn't crazy stressed like he was at the pet store. Thankfully there's a really good small pet store by me that takes WONDERFUL care of their animals, so I get all my reptile-care needs from them!

I think the issue is with the pet shops themselves. They churn out lots of animals and then dump the excess into shelters and such. So they are part of the problem of why there are so many abandoned animals.

I think the issue is with the pet shops themselves. They churn out lots of animals and then dump the excess into shelters and such. So they are part of the problem of why there are so many abandoned animals.

sonicare

If people didn't buy pets, petshops would go out of business and animals wouldn't have to suffer because of them. It's actually pretty basic logic.Cataclism

Edit: read too fast.

It's a wonder people are still so ignorant these days to the suffering of animals.

Why would you buy clothes from Chanel and Louis Vuitton when you can recyle used clothes or buy second habd from thrift store and flea markets?

Why ride a Porsche when you can walk?

Why buy coffee from starbucks?

Obviously with the free market each businesses exist because there is a need and they are supplying it.

What people see "valuable" and worth paying for is not universal.

I just think vegetraians and " you should adopt your pets" people are annoying because they think they are so intellignet by being on a moral high horse.

My dog came from a low end pet store. I consider him to be half way between pet stores and adoption. I love him the same regardless of where he came from and I expect him to be treated the same as any other dog too.:D)

Why would you buy clothes from Chanel and Louis Vuitton when you can recyle used clothes or buy second habd from thrift store and flea markets?

Why ride a Porsche when you can walk?

Why buy coffee from starbucks?

Obviously with the free market each businesses exist because there is a need and they are supplying it.

What people see "valuable" and worth paying for is not universal.

I just think vegetraians and " you should adopt your pets" people are annoying because they think they are so intellignet by being on a moral high horse.

My dog came from a low end pet store. I consider him to be half way between pet stores and adoption. I love him the same regardless of where he came from and I expect him to be treated the same as any other dog too.:D)

Angie7F

Asinine comparisons aside those "new" dogs and cats are often in worse condition than "used" ones due to the emphasis puppy mills place on profits over the health and welfare of the animal.

It's not particularly hard to understand. If you don't want to support puppy mills that mistreat their animals and pet stores that are bringing un-needed animals into the world that won't all be able to find homes just adopt.

Not to mention adopting is cheaper, so it saves money. You often get healthier dogs, (trust me I've owned more dogs than probably anyone in this thread), and btw, when you adopt you're not taking the animal off the street. You're just rescuing it from a shelter, or similar organization.

Honestly, there is no draw back to adopting, and the surge has caused a decrease in puppy mills, so it has worked to a degree.

[QUOTE="Angie7F"]

Why would you buy clothes from Chanel and Louis Vuitton when you can recyle used clothes or buy second habd from thrift store and flea markets?

Why ride a Porsche when you can walk?

Why buy coffee from starbucks?

Obviously with the free market each businesses exist because there is a need and they are supplying it.

What people see "valuable" and worth paying for is not universal.

I just think vegetraians and " you should adopt your pets" people are annoying because they think they are so intellignet by being on a moral high horse.

My dog came from a low end pet store. I consider him to be half way between pet stores and adoption. I love him the same regardless of where he came from and I expect him to be treated the same as any other dog too.:D)

worlock77

Asinine comparisons aside those "new" dogs and cats are often in worse condition than "used" ones due to the emphasis puppy mills place on profits over the health and welfare of the animal.

Yes, puppy mills and pet stores often have huge amounts of in-breeding which creates weak gened pups with deformities and short lifespans.