What is your take on the ending of Inception??? Spoilers

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#1 KSEfAN420
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I think cobb is still in Limbo... the reason i think this is just because of his kids... when he walks in the door and sees his son and daughter out in the yard they are in the same position they are when he dreams about them... and in the beginning of the movie when cobb is in the hotel room waiting to get picked up by the helicopter his kids call him and his daughter sounds alot older then she looks... this is what i think.. let me know how you feel

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#3 SaintLeonidas
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I do not think he is in limbo, not only because of small things that show he isn't but also because for it to end with him in limbo after having the important 'emotional character epiphany' with Mal would really take away a lot from the film.
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The kids are played by different actors and any time Michael Caine is on screen it's the real world. No limbo.
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#5 deactivated-5a79221380856
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I think you're right. It doesn't make sense for the children to be in the same position as he dreamed them. I wouldn't say thought that Inception deserves the analysis it receives, because it wasn't that great of a movie.

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#6 sammyjenkis898
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I didn't really care about the film enough to analyze it any further, but I thought he was not in limbo.
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#7 LZ71
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When I first saw the movie I didn't believe he was in limbo at the end, and I still feel the same way.
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#8 LJS9502_basic
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Not in limbo. Michael Caine was in the scene...he's not the dreams. Ever.
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#9 mlbslugger86
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To this day i still can't decide if he's in limbo or not, Because when he planted the Idea in mal's head the spinner was doing the same thing, which is why i still can't figure it out

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#10 SaintLeonidas
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Not in limbo. Michael Caine was in the scene...he's not the dreams. Ever.LJS9502_basic
True, the memories that he uses in his dreams (which would have been that situation were the kids were in the same positions) were when he originally left the U.S. and Caine's character was not with him.
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#11 scorch-62
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The top was about to stop spinning. It would have to be real.
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#12 KSEfAN420
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That is true but he can be filling in limbo with projections of his subcontious... i just dont get why the kids were still in the yard in the same position and wearing the same clothes... he was gone for 2 years.. and im sure the kids were played by the same actors... they look exactly the same through the whole movie..

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#13 Cataclism
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The kids in the end scene were played by a different set of actors than in the rest of the movie. They were also slightly older.

That just trumps all other analyses IMO. He was not in Limbo.

and im sure the kids were played by the same actors...

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The film end credits disagree.

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#14 SaintLeonidas
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That is true but he can be filling in limbo with projections of his subcontious... i just dont get why the kids were still in the yard in the same position and wearing the same clothes... he was gone for 2 years.. and im sure the kids were played by the same actors... they look exactly the same through the whole movie..

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There positions and clothing were more just for an emotional sort of addition, as in he has been wanting to see them turn around ever since he left and now he finally can, so why not dress them up in similar clothing and put them in a similar position to make it as if he is finally finishing that memory he has had since he left.
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#15 Bardock47
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SPOILERS

ITS NOT A DREAM!!! An interview with the guy that plays Cobbs dad said that any scene that he is in is REAL, the ending scene with with cobb, HIS DAD, and his kids is therfore REAL! The top would've fallen had it not cut to black.

END SPOILERS

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The kids were in the same clothes as he dreamed them in, plus they were the same age. It was years since he seen them, so it pretty much says it all, nothing to debate.

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#17 SLS97
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He is in real life. No limbo

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#18 drinkerofjuice
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The top was about to fall when it cut. Real life.
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#19 Sandulf29
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It was real life. No limbo. The top was about to fall before they cut it

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#20 SoBaus
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The kids were in the same clothes as he dreamed them in, plus they were the same age. It was years since he seen them, so it pretty much says it all, nothing to debate.

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this man says it best.

Same clothes, same age, playing with the same pile of dirt.

Kids usually get older as time passes.

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It was actually all just a fantasy experienced by Arnold Schwarzenneger's character in Total Recall, but his "real life" is in the Matrix anyway.

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#22 Wolfetan
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Michael Caine confirmed it was real. How can his character be in the dream?

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#23 Evil_Saluki
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[QUOTE="Evil_Saluki"]

The kids were in the same clothes as he dreamed them in, plus they were the same age. It was years since he seen them, so it pretty much says it all, nothing to debate.

SoBaus

this man says it best.

Same clothes, same age, playing with the same pile of dirt.

Kids usually get older as time passes.

I find it quite surprising. It's not like it's the ending to Pans Labyrinth which left it open for the viewer to decide depending on what you wanted to believe, it was explained to you crystal clear. I only hope they are clutching at a happy ending to make themselves feel better about the whole movie experience, because the ending as it is doesn't conclude the movie one bit, because we don't know what actually happens to anyone, which is sort of annoying. If you imagine that as the true ending your at least concluding the movie for yourself, but of course your only kidding yourself, as long as your aware of that it's fine, otherwise your not ready yet, you need to go back in for a few more minutes.

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#24 cametall
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I don't think he ever woke up when his wife did. I think when she jumped off the building and killed herself she was actually waking herself up, while Cobb was convinced they were already awake when they were not. To sum up my thoughts, the whole movie is a dream, every bit of it. Really though I don't think there is an ending, I doubt Nolan has a real ending himself. There are too many possibilities: Did Cobb ever wake up from limbo with his wife? Did he actually wake up after the plane? Is he still asleep (starting on the plane)? Is he actually schitzo and all the characters are his different personalities?
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#25 SoBaus
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[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="Evil_Saluki"]

The kids were in the same clothes as he dreamed them in, plus they were the same age. It was years since he seen them, so it pretty much says it all, nothing to debate.

Evil_Saluki

this man says it best.

Same clothes, same age, playing with the same pile of dirt.

Kids usually get older as time passes.

I find it quite surprising. It's not like it's the ending to Pans Labyrinth which left it open for the viewer to decide depending on what you wanted to believe, it was explained to you crystal clear. I only hope they are clutching at a happy ending to make themselves feel better about the whole movie experience, because the ending as it is doesn't conclude the movie one bit, because we don't know what actually happens to anyone, which is sort of annoying. If you imagine that as the true ending your at least concluding the movie for yourself, but of course your only kidding yourself, as long as your aware of that it's fine, otherwise your not ready yet, you need to go back in for a few more minutes.

Well i think the goal was to leave it open ended. Expecting the movie audience not to think too hard about it. And it worked for me... until about 10 minutes after the film ended when i started thinking about it and all the plot holes you mentioned came to fruition, i found the same obvious problems.

But at the same time if the kids were older, it would be an obvious giveaway... so from a direction standpoint of leaving the audience guessing i think it worked. I think its more our fault for overanalyzing the film.

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[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="Evil_Saluki"]

The kids were in the same clothes as he dreamed them in, plus they were the same age. It was years since he seen them, so it pretty much says it all, nothing to debate.

Evil_Saluki

this man says it best.

Same clothes, same age, playing with the same pile of dirt.

Kids usually get older as time passes.

I find it quite surprising. It's not like it's the ending to Pans Labyrinth which left it open for the viewer to decide depending on what you wanted to believe, it was explained to you crystal clear. I only hope they are clutching at a happy ending to make themselves feel better about the whole movie experience, because the ending as it is doesn't conclude the movie one bit, because we don't know what actually happens to anyone, which is sort of annoying. If you imagine that as the true ending your at least concluding the movie for yourself, but of course your only kidding yourself, as long as your aware of that it's fine, otherwise your not ready yet, you need to go back in for a few more minutes.

...because others haven't read which has already been posted a few times before, the children are not the same age, they specifically casted two different children.

...also:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBmp0vPh0bw

in the first showing of his children his daughter does indeed look younger than towards the end, and in the first her sleeves are not white like they are in the end.

...and in case we missed it...*drum roll*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvCQMEb0AME

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#27 jim_shorts
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The ambiguity of the ending was an artistic decision. I don't understand why people have overanalyzed it so much.

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#28 SaintLeonidas
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The ambiguity of the ending was an artistic decision. I don't understand why people have overanalyzed it so much.

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...the decision was made to create discussion, Nolan said that himself, it is analyzed because he wanted it to be.
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Real world man, its all real world..or is it?
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[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="Evil_Saluki"]

The kids were in the same clothes as he dreamed them in, plus they were the same age. It was years since he seen them, so it pretty much says it all, nothing to debate.

Evil_Saluki

this man says it best.

Same clothes, same age, playing with the same pile of dirt.

Kids usually get older as time passes.

I find it quite surprising. It's not like it's the ending to Pans Labyrinth which left it open for the viewer to decide depending on what you wanted to believe, it was explained to you crystal clear. I only hope they are clutching at a happy ending to make themselves feel better about the whole movie experience, because the ending as it is doesn't conclude the movie one bit, because we don't know what actually happens to anyone, which is sort of annoying. If you imagine that as the true ending your at least concluding the movie for yourself, but of course your only kidding yourself, as long as your aware of that it's fine, otherwise your not ready yet, you need to go back in for a few more minutes.

Except the kids are older, wearing different clothes and it's confirmed to be reality.
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#31 Shadow4020
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I think the top kept spinning.

Remember when he was in that weird place where people are hooked up all the time, because that's the only way they can sleep? (or something like that)

I think that's when he went into limbo without realizing it. He went to the sink and started to spin the top, but it fell to the floor when someone surprised him; he didn't check if everything was real or not.

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I do not know. At first, I took it at face value, but now, I tend to think it was just post to be ambiguous.

With that being said, until the ending, I was fully expecting the wife to be right: she escaped the dream world by "committing suicide."

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#33 sonofsmeagle
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So many possibilities,

So much evidence for each,

Inception baby!!

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[QUOTE="Evil_Saluki"]

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

this man says it best.

Same clothes, same age, playing with the same pile of dirt.

Kids usually get older as time passes.

SaintLeonidas

I find it quite surprising. It's not like it's the ending to Pans Labyrinth which left it open for the viewer to decide depending on what you wanted to believe, it was explained to you crystal clear. I only hope they are clutching at a happy ending to make themselves feel better about the whole movie experience, because the ending as it is doesn't conclude the movie one bit, because we don't know what actually happens to anyone, which is sort of annoying. If you imagine that as the true ending your at least concluding the movie for yourself, but of course your only kidding yourself, as long as your aware of that it's fine, otherwise your not ready yet, you need to go back in for a few more minutes.

...because others haven't read which has already been posted a few times before, the children are not the same age, they specifically casted two different children.

in the first showing of his children his daughter does indeed look younger than towards the end, and in the first her sleeves are not white like they are in the end.

...and in case we missed it...*drum roll*

Ah I see it now.

People saying about over analyzing to see the ending as negative, it's quite the opposite. I only seen the movie once some time ago in cinema. The differences are so very minute you'll have to over analyze it in order to see the possive outcome.

The only thing I regret is replying to this thread and giving that damn movie more attention then it deserved. It was just an aciton flick for the mainstream audiance, it's not very good at giving us the feeling of dreaming and it's just a James Bond movie. I think that's about all I got to say about it, I can go back to forgetting it until my eye catches yet anouther Inception thread or someone posts it in their top 5 favorites along with Pearl Harbor and Transformers. Ok It's not that bad to cast it along side those films but it's not far off.

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The top was about to stop spinning. It would have to be real.scorch-62

The amountof time that it wobbles is far too slight to determine if it was actually about to stop spinning.

Michael Caine confirmed it was real. How can his character be in the dream?

Wolfetan

Did Michael Caine write the script? No. Christopher Nolan said there is no "official" ending, he specifically wrote it as a cliffhanger with certain elements implying both outcomes.

Personally,I think he's still in limbo. They never really say if you can bring a dead person back from limbo. I think it was implied that Cobb and Mal didn't get there the same way as Saito and Fischer, and Fischer was brought back by a defribulator so he could have been revived before he truly "died." They also say that you lose your grip by staying in there too long, and Saito stayed there for decades. I think the "he goes back to reality" theory is like other people have said, far too happy ending, because it is too good to be true.

But here's a question, if limbo is supposedly as deep as you can go then how did he create another level of dreams when he was already in limbo? Like I said, it was too happy an ending and he knew it. He told Ariadne that he was going to get Saito in the typical hero's lie way to get her out because he knew that there was no way to get Saito back and if he went back he'd go to jail. The dream he created, that of getting Saito back and going home, wasn't a dream at all, it was an inception. He convinced himself that it was possible to get Saito back and see his family again, and then recreated limbo as a "dream" that reinforced that thought. He knew he had to spend the rest of his life there, and instead of spending it with his dead wife he spent it thinking he was with his family.

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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

[QUOTE="Evil_Saluki"]

I find it quite surprising. It's not like it's the ending to Pans Labyrinth which left it open for the viewer to decide depending on what you wanted to believe, it was explained to you crystal clear. I only hope they are clutching at a happy ending to make themselves feel better about the whole movie experience, because the ending as it is doesn't conclude the movie one bit, because we don't know what actually happens to anyone, which is sort of annoying. If you imagine that as the true ending your at least concluding the movie for yourself, but of course your only kidding yourself, as long as your aware of that it's fine, otherwise your not ready yet, you need to go back in for a few more minutes.

Evil_Saluki

...because others haven't read which has already been posted a few times before, the children are not the same age, they specifically casted two different children.

in the first showing of his children his daughter does indeed look younger than towards the end, and in the first her sleeves are not white like they are in the end.

...and in case we missed it...*drum roll*

Ah I see it now.

People saying about over analyzing to see the ending as negative, it's quite the opposite. I only seen the movie once some time ago in cinema. The differences are so very minute you'll have to over analyze it in order to see the possive outcome.

The only thing I regret is replying to this thread and giving that damn movie more attention then it deserved. It was just an aciton flick for the mainstream audiance, it's not very good at giving us the feeling of dreaming and it's just a James Bond movie. I think that's about all I got to say about it, I can go back to forgetting it until my eye catches yet anouther Inception thread or someone posts it in their top 5 favorites along with Pearl Harbor and Transformers. Ok It's not that bad to cast it along side those films but it's not far off.

That's kinda how I feel. I thought it was WAY overhyped after seeing it, and part of that rests on the people who make it out to be way more than it is, but I still really like it, and it's specifically because of movies like Pearl Harbor and Transformers. I absolutely detest summer blockbusters, I'd actually rather watch some of the lowlier sitcoms out there, and I have a true hatred of some of those. My personal unfavorite is Independence Day, it truly represents the worst of summer blockbusters-lots of action, sterotypical story, canned dialogue, tons of big names actors (some wasting their talent, others completely lacking talent), special effects trying to hide these defects, and millions upong millions of dollars spent in the production process. I actually like films like WaterWorld better because those poor returns tell me that people had the good sense to stay away from it. Anyways, Inception isn't THAT smart of a movie, it has one twist at the end, but the thing I really like about it is that it's not trying to be mindless action, it's trying to tell a story that you at least have to pay a small semblance of attention to in order to get, and it's not treating the audience like a bunch of braindead action junkies that need to be spoonfed their Bruce Willises and Harrison Fords and the style of action film ther inevitably bring with them. Yes it's still a summer blockbuster, but if every summer blockbuster at least tried to be somewhat like Inception then that phrase wouldn't create near as much animosity for me as it does now.

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Yeah...not in limbo.

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limbo

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Did Michael Caine write the script? No. Christopher Nolan said there is no "official" ending, he specifically wrote it as a cliffhanger with certain elements implying both outcomes.

Personally,I think he's still in limbo. They never really say if you can bring a dead person back from limbo. I think it was implied that Cobb and Mal didn't get there the same way as Saito and Fischer, and Fischer was brought back by a defribulator so he could have been revived before he truly "died." They also say that you lose your grip by staying in there too long, and Saito stayed there for decades. I think the "he goes back to reality" theory is like other people have said, far too happy ending, because it is too good to be true.

But here's a question, if limbo is supposedly as deep as you can go then how did he create another level of dreams when he was already in limbo? Like I said, it was too happy an ending and he knew it. He told Ariadne that he was going to get Saito in the typical hero's lie way to get her out because he knew that there was no way to get Saito back and if he went back he'd go to jail. The dream he created, that of getting Saito back and going home, wasn't a dream at all, it was an inception. He convinced himself that it was possible to get Saito back and see his family again, and then recreated limbo as a "dream" that reinforced that thought. He knew he had to spend the rest of his life there, and instead of spending it with his dead wife he spent it thinking he was with his family.

theone86

But Michael Caine would have been able to discuss the movie with the writer had he chosen to do so. As well as the director. And he did state his character was not in dreams. Which if you watch the movie he had not been. At all. Anyway....the fact that the children aged tends to show the passage of time. And the top was falling which is why it was cut off. Yes the ending was a bit ambiguous but only if you didn't pay too too much attentiion.

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I don't remember much about the movie, it's been a while since I've seen it

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Top began to wobble=losing inertia=going to fall. He was awake.
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#42 Ghost_702
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I think he isn't in limbo, but just dreaming. I think that he is just tired of running and not seeing his kids. Everyone that went into the dreams with him were actually just working to help Cobb get over his wife's death and get back with his kids. Cobb finally does get over Mal's death and when he sees his kids, he's too excited to care whether or not it's a dream; he just wants to be with them.

Another theory is that remember when they're trying to find a sedative to keep them under long enough to be able to go 4 dreams deep (or however many it was)? Well remember when Cobb tested it out? Some people believe that he is still there and the sedative is still working on him, and has yet to wear off. *INCEPTION MUSIC* Also, Cobb's totem really isn't even his, but his wife's.

Some believe that Cobb's totems are actually his kids and that's why he can't see their faces when he's in dreams. However, he's so excited to see them at the end that he just conjures their faces on them so he's able to see them, thus destroying his totem and making him unable to differentiate between the dream world and reality.

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#43 Jipset
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The movie wants you to question what 'reality' is. It plants an idea in yo mind. The movie itself performs Inception on the audience, if you will.
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#44 CBR600-RR
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He's not in limbo, even when the totem is still spinning that's just a distraction.

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#45 scorch-62
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"]The top was about to stop spinning. It would have to be real.theone86
The amountof time that it wobbles is far too slight to determine if it was actually about to stop spinning.

Tops wobble when they're about to stop.
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#46 Krelian-co
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i guess the movie tries to leave the ending to peoples interpretation, i choose to think they were real.