What more likely to happen first- Time Travel, Finding Aliens, Contacting ghosts

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#1 Rynair9
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All are mysteries that menhave dreamed aboutsince the beginning of modern erasand may plague us until the end.

Personally I feel we are afew decades from possibly be able to find true alien life, then i feel time travel is way off in the future, and contacting the after-life is a shot in the dark.

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#2 chessmaster1989
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It seems to me that, of the three, finding aliens is by far the most likely to occur.
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#3 Game__Raider
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Time traveling cause it involves technology. Aliens aren't real so that won't ever happen.

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#4 -Misanthropic-
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I'd like to say contacting the ghosties would come first.

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#5 11Marcel
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Probably the aliens thing, because the other two are maybe not possible at all. (actually, they're probably not possible)

That is counting on us not blowing ourselves and our planet up before that time though.

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#6 super_mario_128
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Time traveling cause it involves technology. Aliens aren't real so that won't ever happen.

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>.> Aliens will occur first because they ARE real (:x). And I don't think the latter two will ever occur.
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#7 calvinsora
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Time-travel is impossible. Time is just a concept we made ourselves. Ghosts don't exist, there's no way they can. It's impossible that there don't exist aliens somewhere, but they are unbelievably far away, so it will be far, far off in the future.

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#8 Rynair9
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Oh the billions of galaxies, and billions upon billions of planets; you dont feel one might have some form of life??? math says their prob real.

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#9 MetaKnight50
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Contacting ghosts.......Haven't we've already done that?
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I'd say that finding aliens and contacting ghosts could happen much easier than time travel. I believe in ghosts and aliens, so I don't find it hard to believe. Time travel is far more complex, though, and I don't quite know how I feel about it.
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I'm pretty certain we'll find aliens sooner than the other options. I'm not even certain if time travel is possible, and I don't believe in ghosts.

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Finding aliens. Ghosts don't exist, and time travel... Probably not.
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We're trying to contact ghosts?? Okay. This is actually tough to choose between aliens and time travel. If we found aliens on another planet maybe they could give us the technology to time travel or maybe if we had the technology to time travel we could go back in time and find aliens. I don't know what could come first really. Both are kinda far-fetched ideas.

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#14 Cactus_Matt
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I think all 3 are impossible to discover.

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depends on the drug that you are using...... but if you are starting to see chuck norris then you have to stop.
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I'd say that finding aliens and contacting ghosts could happen much easier than time travel. I believe in ghosts and aliens, so I don't find it hard to believe. Time travel is far more complex, though, and I don't quite know how I feel about it.t3hrubikscube

Its possible, but as far as I know, the theory says that its quite dangerous... that it could rip the fabric of existence or something like that...

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Probably contacting aliens. I believe time is a non-physical object that cannot be changed or traveled through, and I also believe that once someone is dead, they're dead (no ghosts). Life on other planets, though, is possible.

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I'm just gonna go ahead and say that any scientist trying to contact ghosts, isn't a scientist at all.
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#19 mo0ksi
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Aliens, then ghosts, then time travel I think. I don't think time travel, if ever existed, will be available to the public. Too many alternate futures.
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I actually believe that the second and third have been achieved so the logical next step is time-travel.

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I'm just gonna go ahead and say that any scientist trying to contact ghosts, isn't a scientist at all. jaydough
I disagree. Science is based on the principle that we don't know everything, and our truths are never perfect, which is why we must always question our theories. Not questioning the theory that ghosts don't exist is unscientific.

Remember, science is not about what we know, but about what we don't know.

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Oh the billions of galaxies, and billions upon billions of planets; you dont feel one might have some form of life??? math says their prob real.

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Math says a lot things are real. I mean it really depends on what you call "alien". If you mean like a living, breathing, monster then I don't think that is possible. If you are looking for like a new never before seen element or plant species , you can consider that alien based off of your definition of alien, than that might be likely.

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#23 metroidfood
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Finding aliens, since microscopic life may just happen to exist in our universe.

It's also scientifically possible, unlike ghosts and time travel.

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#24 DeathHeart95
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Aliens if there are any in the galaxy at all. Ghosts probably don't exist (although there has been no significant proof either way) and time travel may not be possible.
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#25 Vandalvideo
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Oh the billions of galaxies, and billions upon billions of planets; you dont feel one might have some form of life??? math says their prob real.

Rynair9
What maths are these you speak of?
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contacting ghosts has probably alreasdy happened at some point. I'd say time travel is pretty far off we dont even have anything relatively close to that as of now.
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#27 Rynair9
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For the thng about time travel, if its ever to exist in the future; wouldnt we already know because events like WWII and the killing of jesus would be stopped by future people.

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#28 11Marcel
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For the thng about time travel, if its ever to exist in the future; wouldnt we already know because events like WWII and the killing of jesus would be stopped by future people.

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Not if you consider parallel universes.

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#29 DeathHeart95
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For the thng about time travel, if its ever to exist in the future; wouldnt we already know because events like WWII and the killing of jesus would be stopped by future people.

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More important things to stop maybe?
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[QUOTE="jaydough"] I'm just gonna go ahead and say that any scientist trying to contact ghosts, isn't a scientist at all. 11Marcel

I disagree. Science is based on the principle that we don't know everything, and our truths are never perfect, which is why we must always question our theories. Not questioning the theory that ghosts don't exist is unscientific.

Remember, science is not about what we know, but about what we don't know.

But, the concept of scientists trying to contacting ghosts is unscientific, because we don't even have any evidence on whether or not they exist. Wouldn't it be more logical for a scientist to try and provide sufficient evidence that ghosts exist at all, before trying to contact it?
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#31 Rynair9
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The math of commen sense, one of a trillions must have life
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The math of commen sense, one of a trillions must have lifeRynair9
Based on what premises? What is it about more planets that necessitates more life?
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[QUOTE="Rynair9"]

For the thng about time travel, if its ever to exist in the future; wouldnt we already know because events like WWII and the killing of jesus would be stopped by future people.

11Marcel

Not if you consider parallel universes.

True but we could argue this all day with different theories...for example:

It wouldn't have been stopped if we hadn't reached that point in time yet. If we are living in the moment, then the future hasn't happened yet so until we reached that moment it can't be considered that what has happened in that moment has happened and that the moment we are experiencing right now is as far as we have gone in time, THUS proving that we can't go back in time yet cause the future isn't happening while the present is happening. Pretty much saying that 2050 hasn't come so that moment isn't happening as we speak cause it never happened yet. Get me?

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It depends on what is real and how some things are achieved. I suppose reaching an alternate universe could gain access to either of those things, but its possible that alternate universes have barriers preventing universes from crossing, or maybe you need some really fantastic event to happen (like in Half Life).

Ghosts may not be real, but it is possible I suppose, though I don't believe there are ghosts (unless you went to a universe where there were).

Aliens, I'd like to believe that we aren't the only living things in the universe or even the galaxy, but its more likely we may just catch a glimpse or such through a telescope rather than meet them.

Time travle is different, its not really anything as much as an idea, thus it cannot really exist. Of course, alternate universe come up again, as does the possibility of reversing the flow of all molecules and atoms to previous states (ala Singularity, an upcoming game from Raven), although traditional time travle may be too hard considering the paradoxes and chaos theory, plus the fact that the extra mass you add could cause some sort of collapse or tug along strings across the universe affecting things you didn't even know anyone could ever possibly affect.

Ugh, I'd guess aliens since if they don't exist in our universe (unlikely), we could find them in another.

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[QUOTE="11Marcel"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] I'm just gonna go ahead and say that any scientist trying to contact ghosts, isn't a scientist at all. jaydough

I disagree. Science is based on the principle that we don't know everything, and our truths are never perfect, which is why we must always question our theories. Not questioning the theory that ghosts don't exist is unscientific.

Remember, science is not about what we know, but about what we don't know.

But, the concept of scientists trying to contacting ghosts is unscientific, because we don't even have any evidence on whether or not they exist. Wouldn't it be more logical for a scientist to try and provide sufficient evidence that ghosts exist at all, before trying to contact it?

Maybe you can only see they exist when you contact them?

I agree though, it would be more logical to first look if they exist before contacting. It's just that I think if a scientist has some really crazy ideas if you look at it through modern day understanding, that doesn't make him a scientist. It just gives him the possibility to give new understandings. If we can learn one thing from history, past generations have always been really gullible about insane theories. Why would we be different?

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Time-travel is possible, and in fact it happens to everyone, all the time. Relativity: The Special and the General Theory by Albert Einstein, explains this in great detail. Your head ages slower than your feet, and a clock placed high on a wall runs slower than an exact copy of that clock placed at a lower elevation. We all know that as you approach the speed of light, time slows down, and most people are familiar with the "twin paradox". All GPS satellites take time travel and relativity into account. The time travel that we experience is imperceptible to us, but it is real nonetheless. Nothing in the known laws of physics prevents time-travel. One day it may in fact be possible to "go back in time" with a time machine, and it is almost certain that a time machine could be constructed to allow returning to the origin of that machine from any point in the future. We just lack the engineering know-how at this point.

Aliens are next. Ghosts will be difficult to provide evidence for.

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#37 metalpower08
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ghosts and time travel are vitually impossible. Contacting a species from another planet is almost above what our technology will ever be capable of. But then again I have absolutely no way of knowing what techology will be capable in the far off future. But Contacting aliens is the only one that is possible by any means.

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[QUOTE="Rynair9"]The math of commen sense, one of a trillions must have lifeVandalvideo
Based on what premises? What is it about more planets that necessitates more life?

Just pure chance. Mars and Europa (I think) could potentially hold life now, and could have held life in the past. That's three celestial bodies in a single solar system where there's a possibility of life; that could be an anomaly, though when you consider the enormous quantity of solar systems in the universe, that premise seems unlikely.
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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"] Just pure chance. Mars and Europa (I think) could potentially hold life now, and could have held life in the past. That's three celestial bodies in a single solar system where there's a possibility of life; that could be an anomaly, though when you consider the enormous quantity of solar systems in the universe, that premise seems unlikely.

How does the possibility of having supported life equal life? What is it about these specific parameters that necessitates the existance of life forms? Why can't there be life forms based on silicon or nitrogen hydroxide?
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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"] Just pure chance. Mars and Europa (I think) could potentially hold life now, and could have held life in the past. That's three celestial bodies in a single solar system where there's a possibility of life; that could be an anomaly, though when you consider the enormous quantity of solar systems in the universe, that premise seems unlikely.Vandalvideo
How does the possibility of having supported life equal life? What is it about these specific parameters that necessitates the existance of life forms? Why can't there be life forms based on silicon or nitrogen hydroxide?

There could be, making alien life even more possible. There's so many stars and planets in the universe there could well be thousands of other planets containing life.

It should be said though that the chance of life being formed on a planet where it's possible is still very small. Small in a sense of astronomically small.

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Ghosts don't exist and time travelling is impossible.

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[QUOTE="Rynair9"]The math of commen sense, one of a trillions must have lifeVandalvideo
Based on what premises? What is it about more planets that necessitates more life?

Well I think he is right, take a look at the volcanic vents of hte ocean.. We actually have creatures living with lack of light, in a enviroment that reaches 400 to 800 degrees.. Life I would think from that example alone is a garentee, now if it is intelligent who knows..
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Ghosts don't exist and time travelling is impossible.

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According to Michio Kaku, there's no l scientific law that prevents it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X02WMNoHSm8
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] Well I think he is right, take a look at the volcanic vents of hte ocean.. We actually have creatures living with lack of light, in a enviroment that reaches 400 to 800 degrees.. Life I would think from that example alone is a garentee, now if it is intelligent who knows..sSubZerOo
How does the mere presence of water and heat equate to biological life forms? I need more than one is, in cases we have seen, proceeded by the other. I need moar.
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Evidence required to prove extra-terrestrial life: empirical
Evidence required to prove ghosts: supernatural (at least as far as we are concerned right now)
Evidence required to time travel: a complete violation of the laws of physics

We will find extra-terrestrial life long before we prove ghosts exist or travel through time. The last two being almost impossible.

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There could be, making alien life even more possible. There's so many stars and planets in the universe there could well be thousands of other planets containing life.It should be said though that the chance of life being formed on a planet where it's possible is still very small. Small in a sense of astronomically small.11Marcel
I don't see these as anything more than extreme hypotheticals. "We have life, therefore planets like us must necessarily have life". I'm not convinced that a mere Earth like planet necesitates life.
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[QUOTE="Rynair9"]The math of commen sense, one of a trillions must have lifeVandalvideo
Based on what premises? What is it about more planets that necessitates more life?

By looking on the estimated minimum amount of planets, the chance they can hold life, the chance of life actually maintaining there, the chances are astronomically high, around 99,99999999999%. That's common sense.

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We will meet The Buggers long before we learn to time travel. If time travel can even be done
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Rynair9"]The math of commen sense, one of a trillions must have lifesSubZerOo
Based on what premises? What is it about more planets that necessitates more life?

Well I think he is right, take a look at the volcanic vents of hte ocean.. We actually have creatures living with lack of light, in a enviroment that reaches 400 to 800 degrees.. Life I would think from that example alone is a garentee, now if it is intelligent who knows..

maybe we are not intelligent compared to other life forms that might be out there :shock: